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He coul...Or, cpniva (if that's your real name)<br /><br />He could have called 911 so often in the past that they told him to call a "special" number just for him, and he bought it.<br /><br />Or . . . he didn't want the cops showing up tooo fast.<br /><br />Or . . . any number of things it would take Kreskin to figure out.<br /><br />How about we do what the prosecutors are going to do and just consider the evidence they have?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-41448369568723067542012-04-15T00:40:26.469-04:002012-04-15T00:40:26.469-04:00OK, we are agreed that it isn't Pulitzer Prize...<i>OK, we are agreed that it isn't Pulitzer Prize material.</i><br /><br />I don't know. Maybe it could be. Maybe it isn't just a few rogue dispatchers. Maybe it's the first overt act of a vast conspiracy to undermine public confidence in the nation's emergency call system.<br /><br />(Did you catch how I turned our single entirely speculative rogue dispatcher into 'a few' that are apparently assumed to exist? It's fun working in media.)nomatter_nevermindnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-20424887261280587422012-04-15T00:01:38.183-04:002012-04-15T00:01:38.183-04:00anonymous (if that's your real name):
allow m...anonymous (if that's your real name):<br /><br />allow me to explain. the fact that mr. zimmerman called the sanford police non-emergency number goes to his state of mind. clearly, he didn't feel the situation he was calling about was an emergency, requiring a call to 911 instead. in fact, from the conversation, it isn't real clear to me exactly what he thought he was calling about at all, since mr. martin, in mr. zimmerman's own words, wasn't doing anything overtly illegal at that point.<br /><br />because the SYG law requires that a person have a reasonable belief in a life threatening danger to themselves or others, to assert immunity under it, the prosecution may well introduce the taped call(s) as evidence to show the opposite. as well, the advice by the non-emergency line operator, that mr. zimmerman didn't need to follow mr. martin, but that he chose to anyway, may be further evidence that he didn't feel any concerns for his safety.<br /><br />just speculation on my part.<br /><br />the point i believe mr. somerby was making was that it was confusing to read that, on one hand, the charge didn't allow for a defendant to be out on bail, and yet, they could request a bail hearing at a later date. the use of the words bail & bond are moot, bond is simply a % of the total bail required. the explanation of an "arthur hearing" given doesn't clear up this seeming contradiction.cpinvanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-71636043071308502392012-04-14T20:14:40.962-04:002012-04-14T20:14:40.962-04:00Once again, the way the person on the police end a...Once again, the way the person on the police end answered the phone has what to do with value of the rest of the call as evidence in this case?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-36660564975691528692012-04-14T19:31:56.724-04:002012-04-14T19:31:56.724-04:00Call 911 and find out .
"What is the nature ...Call 911 and find out . <br />"What is the nature of your emergency ?"<br /><br /><br />Sheesh ...FRPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08476627110854287507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-32349329409638142402012-04-14T18:34:20.613-04:002012-04-14T18:34:20.613-04:00Except, dear boy, I am not the one devoting an ent...Except, dear boy, I am not the one devoting an entire blog to the notion that people are so dumb that they will never figure out anything if Lawrence O'Donnell, et al, keep misleading them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-31290431203524979712012-04-14T18:30:26.841-04:002012-04-14T18:30:26.841-04:00OK, we are agreed that it isn't Pulitzer Prize...OK, we are agreed that it isn't Pulitzer Prize material.<br /><br />Now explain to me what difference it could possibly make if Zimmerman's recorded call went to 911 or to a non-emergency police line.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-15416933835376091922012-04-14T17:37:53.593-04:002012-04-14T17:37:53.593-04:00Sorry. I forgot the rule that a reporter never wor...Sorry. I forgot the rule that a reporter never works on a story that can't lead to Pulitzer Prize.nomatter_nevermindnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-65240664542428251472012-04-14T17:06:08.120-04:002012-04-14T17:06:08.120-04:00What Rachel Maddow says doesn't mean squat. No...What Rachel Maddow says doesn't mean squat. No one listens to her anyway. No one cares what happens on the Rachel Maddow show.<br /><br />Bob should stop talking about Rachel Maddow's show (which is irrelevant to all liberals, anyway) and start talking about Rachel Maddow's book, which is hugely important.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-84697801027847938472012-04-14T17:01:15.406-04:002012-04-14T17:01:15.406-04:00"Some of you are so eager to prove how smart ..."Some of you are so eager to prove how smart you are you end up looking stupid."<br /><br />Exhibit A: <br /><br />"...didn't mean squat. Kinda like what Trayvon Martin means to Bob Somerby."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-20454349976265879842012-04-14T16:43:35.770-04:002012-04-14T16:43:35.770-04:00Oh, by all means, let's put an end to the scan...Oh, by all means, let's put an end to the scandal of 911 dispatchers impersonating police dispatchers. I'm certain there is a Pulitzer Prize in there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-9515290847746304532012-04-14T11:41:29.582-04:002012-04-14T11:41:29.582-04:00If a 911 dispatcher chose to impersonate a police ...If a 911 dispatcher chose to impersonate a police dispatcher, that would itself be an oddity that the press should take note of and investigate.nomatter_nevermindnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-56528429425915469012012-04-14T10:15:34.093-04:002012-04-14T10:15:34.093-04:00If they did indeed miss it and the dispatcher simp...If they did indeed miss it and the dispatcher simply didn't answer the phone differently that one time.<br /><br />But even assuming they did, the question remains: So what?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-83887729798316752952012-04-14T09:48:12.278-04:002012-04-14T09:48:12.278-04:00It's not brilliant. If it were brilliant, it w...It's not brilliant. If it were brilliant, it wouldn't be so sad and pathetic that almost the entire national and local press corps of the United States has missed it.nomatter_nevermindnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-68222617522830661472012-04-14T09:16:43.067-04:002012-04-14T09:16:43.067-04:00Boy, you've been banging that brilliant discov...Boy, you've been banging that brilliant discovery, if true, as if it holds the entire key to this case. I am still scratching my head trying to figure out how the press' representation of who Zimmerman called could possibly have any significance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-17335584665646546122012-04-13T23:33:19.892-04:002012-04-13T23:33:19.892-04:00hardindr:
I would hope that a reporter on a legal...hardindr:<br /><br /><i>I would hope that a reporter on a legal beat would be familiar with the basics about bail/bond, or if she wasn't, would know enough to find out.</i><br /><br />That's a good point. I should have thought of it myself. I was recently pointing out that a reporter on a police beat should know the difference between a 911 call and a non-emergency police call. He should also be skeptical when a call that obviously should be non-emergency, like a four-minute report of a 'suspicious person', is represented as a 911 call.nomatter_nevermindnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-29552300713399652682012-04-13T22:27:20.838-04:002012-04-13T22:27:20.838-04:00Remember people: the NYT is a PRINT publication. ...Remember people: the NYT is a PRINT publication. Many of its readers are its readers BECAUSE THEY DON'T USE THE INTERNET. Telling some 80 year old to Google "Arthur hearing" is like telling them to flap their wings and fly down to the store to pick up their groceries. I'm a highly educated person, and have no idea what an "Arthur hearing" is (I assume it has nothing to do with Dudley Moore), and the passage Somerby highlighted makes no sense to me. If I were reliant on just the newspaper itself I'd have been very confused. Some of you are so eager to prove how smart you are you end up looking stupid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-7653167809679249562012-04-13T18:50:06.558-04:002012-04-13T18:50:06.558-04:00I've lived in the US all my life. People'...I've lived in the US all my life. People's skulls here are full of old shoes (not sure if that is the same in most countries). The NY Times (and other high-brow news organizations) don't help matters much.hardindrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05275899305949454964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-5603766829717687152012-04-13T18:43:38.866-04:002012-04-13T18:43:38.866-04:00I agree with those here who don't see Bob'...I agree with those here who don't see Bob's particular example a particularly good one. Every article can't explain everything. The important point here for the article's readers: when might Zimmerman be able to get out of jail? That could have been handled better.<br /><br />But if Mr. Somerby didn't choose a great example, I take his point. Too many articles in the NYT (and elsewhere) substitute details (presented, to the appearance of probably most readers, utterly gratuitously) for a clear argument (in the service of which the details are presented). I read the NYT daily and read college students' papers regularly. I would never let my students get away with the shoddy argumentation of most articles I read. The sloppiest, most padded papers I read are based on a better sense of how to construct an argument.mchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-58576853897074941522012-04-13T18:35:41.268-04:002012-04-13T18:35:41.268-04:00Hey, Greg. Obviously Somerby has more important th...Hey, Greg. Obviously Somerby has more important things to worry about than how the legislative has ceded warmaking powers to the executive.<br /><br />Like Piers Morgan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-13723657597329325462012-04-13T18:14:05.527-04:002012-04-13T18:14:05.527-04:00Hardindr, I live in the Unites States of America. ...Hardindr, I live in the Unites States of America. Where do you live where people are so reliant on cable TV hosts for "news" and so dumb they are incapable of sorting through what they babble about?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com