tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post9149864957755752951..comments2024-03-28T10:04:09.416-04:00Comments on the daily howler: THE AGE OF THE NOVEL: Emergence of a gifted young writer!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-41353349214677361152020-05-07T20:01:57.810-04:002020-05-07T20:01:57.810-04:00Hello viewers around the Globe, I was despondent b...Hello viewers around the Globe, I was despondent because i had a very small penis, about 2.5 inches soft and 4 inches hard not nice enough to satisfy a woman, i have been in so many relationship, but cut off because of my situation, i have used so many product which doctors prescribe for me, but none could offer me the help i searched for. i saw some few comments on the internet about this specialist called Dr, OLHIA and i decided to contact him on his {oliha.miraclemedicine@gmail.com} so I decided to give his herbal product a try. i emailed him and he got back to me, he gave me some comforting words with his herbal pills for Penis Enlargement, Within 3 week of it, i began to feel the enlargement of my penis, " and now it just 4 weeks of using his products my penis is about 9 inches longer, and i had to settle out with my Ex girlfriend Ella, i was surprised when she said that she is satisfied with my sex and i have got a large penis. Am so happy, thanks to Dr OLIHA I also learn that Dr OLIHA also help with Breast Enlargement Hips and Bums Enlargement etc.. If you are in any situation with a little Penis, weak ejaculation, small breast_hips_bums do get to Dr OLIHA now for help on his email {oliha.miraclemedicine@gmail.com} or whats app him number: +2349038382931Relanes Ihabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10450627962285282111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-8007643515475197352019-12-13T09:17:18.277-05:002019-12-13T09:17:18.277-05:00I want to share a testimony of how Dr.Osemuhau her...I want to share a testimony of how Dr.Osemuhau herbal mixture cream saves me from shame and disgrace, my penis was a big problem to me as the size was really so embarrassing,and i was also having weak erection problem. I can't make love to my wife and my penis was just too small a full grown man like me having 4 inches penis and to worsen it i don't last in sex i cant even last two minutes it was really a thing of shame to me. My wife was really tired of me because my sex life was very poor,she never enjoyed sex,i was always thinking and searching for solutions everywhere until when i saw a testimony of how Dr.Osemuhau herbal mixture cream have been helping people regarding their sex life, so i decided to give him a try and to my greatest surprise in less than one week of taking the herbs my penis grow to 8 inches i couldn't believe my eyes and as i speak now my penis is now 8 inches and i do not have week erection again. I can make love to my wife longer in bed. And my marriage is now stable,my wife now enjoy me very well in bed. can contact him drosemuhau@gmail.com {) or call or what-apps him through +2348168714427moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13968274379955557653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-16276107038623645302019-10-24T15:31:43.627-04:002019-10-24T15:31:43.627-04:00"I haven't read the book"
If I were..."I haven't read the book"<br /><br />If I were you I would start on page 33 and proceed carefully from there Sparky.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-78805437763477709782019-10-24T02:20:26.268-04:002019-10-24T02:20:26.268-04:00Her narrative is about herself, before and after t...<i>Her narrative is about herself, before and after the incident.</i><br />Agreed.<br /><br /><i>What facts have liberals invented in connection with this incident?</i><br /><br />I haven't read the book or its review, but I don't think liberals are involved with either. The author and the reviewer are living in the Age of the Novel, which includes our political discourse.<br /><br /><i>How does this book and the review fit into the novelization that Somerby claims liberals do?</i><br /><br />"In Miller's book, but also in major reviews," according to TDH, we find the unchallenged narrative that's of a piece with our political discourse and which sweeps up a young author too inexperienced to resist it. The book is a microcosm of our "cultural practices."<br /><br />Does that help or make things worse?deadrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02828198094140822987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-86730483859166061942019-10-24T00:53:15.870-04:002019-10-24T00:53:15.870-04:00@deadrat
“No, the entire narrative, true, false, o...@deadrat<br />“No, the entire narrative, true, false, or in between, was created by the author who was the victim.”<br /><br />She did not create the narrative *about the assault*, because she *doesn’t remember it.* <br /><br />Her narrative is about herself, before and after the incident. <br /><br />Somerby brings up liberals in connection with Miller and her book:<br /><br />“our liberal world is strongly inclined to discard plainly relevant facts; to perhaps invent inaccurate facts; to stress wholly irrelevant facts; and to ignore the most elementary bits of logic, all in service to the need to construct simplified stories designed to encourage anger and loathing by creating simplified, highly familiar, standardized heroes and villains”<br /><br />What facts have liberals invented in connection with this incident? What irrelevant facts are being stressed by liberals? Who is the “standardized villain” in the liberal story of this incident? Is Miller a liberal who is engaging in this novelization?<br /><br />How does this book and the review fit into the novelization that Somerby claims liberals do?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-53298354374473361532019-10-23T22:32:08.590-04:002019-10-23T22:32:08.590-04:00Thanks. Falls into the category of worst superpowe...Thanks. Falls into the category of worst superpower ever.deadrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02828198094140822987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-62778213626836665912019-10-23T22:06:10.166-04:002019-10-23T22:06:10.166-04:00“(It's exhausting to make sense here, isn'...“(It's exhausting to make sense here, isn't it?)”<br /><br />You do it well.Ceceliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162272807640653299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-3802910763376403552019-10-23T21:31:46.667-04:002019-10-23T21:31:46.667-04:00I’d rather be enjoying Somerby than defending him....<i>I’d rather be enjoying Somerby than defending him. He’s got deadrat for that.</i><br /><br />It's a thankless job, but nobody has to do it. And I'm certainly nobody enough.<br /><br />(It's exhausting to make sense here, isn't it?)deadrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02828198094140822987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-84287032040619193102019-10-23T21:23:28.055-04:002019-10-23T21:23:28.055-04:00We can’t answer these questions.
Oh, sure we can....<i>We can’t answer these questions.</i><br /><br />Oh, sure we can. Just as soon as we recover our breath from the effort of patting ourselves on the back.<br /><br /><i>Is he trying to suggest that the assault never happened</i><br /><br />No, not least because there’s clear forensic evidence and eyewitness testimony that it did.<br /><br /><i>that perhaps the sex was consensual,</i><br /><br />No, the victim was black-out drunk at the time, legally unable to grant legal consent to anything<br /><br /><i>that liberals have created another fairy tale surrounding this event,</i><br /><br />No, the entire narrative, true, false, or in between, was created by the author who was the victim.<br /><br /><i>that Miller … is ... embellishing or creating facts about herself?</i><br /><br />Probably. That’s what human beings of all sexes and genders do.<br /><br /><i>Can her “peculiar” description of herself really be an attempt to make herself seem more innocent and flawless than she in fact is?</i><br /><br />Probably. For the same reason.<br />deadrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02828198094140822987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-41565094221036676532019-10-23T17:53:37.687-04:002019-10-23T17:53:37.687-04:004:14pm, Somerby did not "intimate" that ...4:14pm, Somerby did not "intimate" that he thinks Weiner should have been skeptical as to the guilt of the accused or that she should treat Miller skeptically as to whether or not she was really asking for it...or whatever formulation that’s used to pin that sort of thinking on him.<br /><br />I don’t know how you read Weiner's riffs on culture and still did not ascertain Somerby’s point about shoehorning this incident into a file marked "College Boy Rapists" while not bothering to explain the things that make this case different (and that's not synonymous with the word "questionable"). <br /><br /> I’d rather be enjoying Somerby than defending him. He’s got deadrat for that. However, I am starting to understand how the NYT might think that many people need their <b>Here To Help</b> column/primer-on-breathing. <br />Ceceliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162272807640653299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-12805869426914307872019-10-23T16:49:50.237-04:002019-10-23T16:49:50.237-04:00'Somerby’s clearly stated and concise argument...'Somerby’s clearly stated and concise argument is that journos should be journos, not stenographers for any narrative. '<br /><br /><br />Somerby's meandering and totally nonconcise argument is that journos should attack liberals and be deferential to the likes of Roy Moore, Donald Trump and Ron Johnson. Centristnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-3711271410878691092019-10-23T16:15:58.660-04:002019-10-23T16:15:58.660-04:00Today Somerby has called another meeting of the &q...Today Somerby has called another meeting of the "he-man woman-hater's club -- no girls allowed". Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-26449648852166820442019-10-23T16:14:09.886-04:002019-10-23T16:14:09.886-04:00Cecelia, Somerby was complaining that she couldn&#...Cecelia, Somerby was complaining that she couldn't do the stenography right and got Miller's age wrong. He isn't complaining about her "analysis" because he didn't quote any problems with that, other than assuming that readers would get angry hearing about the author being raped. Personally, I don't consider that leading or analysis -- what human being wouldn't get angry about the facts of this case.<br /><br />If you, a decent human being, came across a person unconscious in a public place, wouldn't you call 911 or go get a friend or do something to help? Would you sexually assault them, helpless as they are and unable to resist? Careful with your answer -- this is a test of both character and willingness to obey the laws of our land (which do forbid assault with penetration of an unconscious individual).<br /><br />Somerby thinks that Weiner should take Turner's conviction with a grain of salt and perhaps question his guilt because of Miller's narrative (gaps in her memory?). That isn't how the justice system works. You call Turner's crimes "alleged" until he gets his day in court. After his conviction, you call him a felon unless his verdict is overturned in some way. That hasn't happened, so we must assume he did the dirty deeds he was convicted of doing.<br /><br />Somerby has no basis for insisting that Weiner or anyone else reviewing Miller's book (which is not about the crime but about her subjective experiences as a victim) should consider Turner possibly not guilty. That is unfair to Miller and it is also not the way our system works.<br /><br />And what is Somerby's "evidence"? He doesn't like the way Miller portrays herself as grass, and he doesn't like it that she can't remember what happened prior to waking up with Turner on top of her. But don't forget that there was a lucid eye witness and that Turner's own account(s) of what happened didn't make sense to the jury. And there is physical evidence of the crime too. How much evidence does Somerby need? There is a point at which Somerby could be accused of not wanting to recognize the truth about what happened. <br /><br />But you and Somerby keep forgetting -- this book is NOT Miller's side of the assault. It is about her experiences as a nameless victim and the aftermath, as she tried to get her life together and become a writer. It is a reminder that women are harmed by assault, even when men think they haven't really been done any harm. Somerby wants a true-crime analysis of the evidence. That isn't what the book is about. Why should Weiner criticize it on that basis when that isn't the goal of the author? <br /><br />Many people read books to have an emotional experience, preferably a transformative one. Maybe men don't do that as much as women, but not all books are intended to be "objective" or dispassionate. And all lives are lived as a narrative that goes: once upon a time I was born, I lived and had struggles and triumphs and pain, and then I died. Messing with that narrative structure, which parallels our experience of time and the way we mentally organize events in memory, would be a disruption of the expectations of the reader. That's why people generally hate flashbacks and flash forwards in movies and books.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-49820554989819666232019-10-23T15:57:45.585-04:002019-10-23T15:57:45.585-04:00"In Miller's book, but also in major revi..."In Miller's book, but also in major reviews, some elementary facts have disappeared and some obvious questions have gone unaddressed. Beyond that, one apparent villain, if it's villains we need, has been allowed to slide from the scene."<br /><br />I really don't know what villain Somerby is talking about, who has been "allowed" to slide away.<br /><br />I would speculate that it is liberals who are the villains, but why doesn't Somerby explicitly state who he means with this closing remark? This unwillingness to take responsibility for his own innuendo is one reason why Somerby is being criticized here, day in and day out.<br /><br />@1:06 apparently doesn't know that shy people are more likely to use alcohol to cope with social anxiety. In residential colleges, the kids with the most difficulty making the social transition to college are the most likely to become involved with drugs and drinking, because druggies accept anyone as long as they adhere to druggie norms, and the same with those who binge drink. <br /><br />Since guys don't get raped with the same frequency, it is easy for men to blame women for what men do to them. Somerby perhaps wants to suggest that the rules of partying and the laws don't apply to someone caught in the act, if the perpetrator is a young man with a promising future in organized swimming. Because obviously, young women (supported by liberals screaming about rape culture) make things up just because some guy jumps on them while they are passed out. And girls just can't take a joke, like when the frat boys draw a penis on a passed out friend's face with a permanent marker, and that is all good fun but the girls don't see it that way because of those stoopid liberals. And if a frat boy or two dies from excess alcohol consumption during hazing or some other frat ritual, that is part of learning to be men, right bros?<br /><br />But Somerby's villain is perhaps Weiner, who got Miller's age wrong, and thus needs to be burned at the stake because rape (sorry, sexual assault with penetration) gets you 6 months whereas women never do anything right and shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a pen and pencil, or they might whine about how evil men are.<br /><br />Is that about right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-66936993225460719582019-10-23T15:52:32.892-04:002019-10-23T15:52:32.892-04:00'This is Somerby's huge mistake'
This...'This is Somerby's huge mistake'<br /><br />This is not a mistake. Somerby is a 'useless idiot for Trump', trying to attack and concern troll liberals. Centristnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-9264584693779206422019-10-23T15:51:20.142-04:002019-10-23T15:51:20.142-04:00'Again and again, our floundering tribe's ...'Again and again, our floundering tribe's novelized stories have tended to bleed into the realm of the Brothers Grimm—into the scary, familiar realm of the fairy tale. '<br /><br />Your usual public service announcement, that Somerby is no liberal but a Trumptard, and his tribe is the tribe of Trumptards. Centristnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-14855217117407701522019-10-23T14:25:22.159-04:002019-10-23T14:25:22.159-04:00Ostensibly professional book reviewing requires mo...Ostensibly professional book reviewing requires more than stenography skills, it requires analytical ones as well. Not to mention questioning, evaluating, and as particularly relevant in Weiner’s case; emotional distance and a desire to know all the facts. <br />Ceceliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162272807640653299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-40279041864226017762019-10-23T14:06:33.582-04:002019-10-23T14:06:33.582-04:00It’s a book review, not a report about the inciden...It’s a book review, not a report about the incident. Besides, Somerby clearly indicates there is something peculiar about Miller’s account. That is questioning *her*, and not just the book reviewer. He coyly insinuates that Miller may be too young to realize how she is helping the Liberal Fairy Tale. He is questioning her as much as the “journalist.” After all, Miller is the one with the “narrative”.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-63243299683237443842019-10-23T13:56:27.729-04:002019-10-23T13:56:27.729-04:00
“His insinuations do not make for a clear, concis...<br />“His insinuations do not make for a clear, concise argument.”<br /><br />Then let me help you out. <br /><br />Somerby’s clearly stated and concise argument is that journos should be journos, not stenographers for any narrative. Ceceliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162272807640653299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-46340808192062912542019-10-23T13:36:11.501-04:002019-10-23T13:36:11.501-04:00Am I for Miller? Did I suggest that? Did I suggest...Am I for Miller? Did I suggest that? Did I suggest Somerby was against Miller? No, and no. Did I suggest that there is no nuance?<br /><br />No. I did not. <br /><br />I am merely using Somerby’s technique to suggest what Somerby is implying, since he never clearly states it. His insinuations do not make for a clear, concise argument. And his positing of a Grand Liberal Fairy Tale is a bit much if all he wants to do is question Miller’s account, her veracity, or her character. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-65702243628272825732019-10-23T13:10:02.546-04:002019-10-23T13:10:02.546-04:00“We can’t answer these questions.”
You have your ...“We can’t answer these questions.”<br /><br />You have your choice of two narratives here, folks. Only two, nothing else, as usual. <br /><br />You’re either fer Miller or agin her. No other point is allowable. Ceceliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162272807640653299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-75536986323203529172019-10-23T13:06:38.227-04:002019-10-23T13:06:38.227-04:00Bob is too polite, so to cut to the chase:
Chanel...Bob is too polite, so to cut to the chase:<br /><br />Chanel Miller claims she was really shy and deferential, yet she went to a frat party, got blackout drunk, peed outside, and wound up behind a dumpster, unconscious, with a guy on top of her. <br /><br />Now she tells a story where she is the angelic heroine, and the guy, the alleged perpetrator, is the villain. And this suits liberals just fine, whose world consists of Fairy Tale Heroines and Villains. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-66117058030121448242019-10-23T12:54:00.733-04:002019-10-23T12:54:00.733-04:00“We especially wouldn't expect that of a young...“We especially wouldn't expect that of a young person who is writing about having been sexually assaulted, and a duly constituted jury unanimously decided that Miller was sexually assaulted in the aftermath of a Stanford frat party in January 2015."<br /><br />Ms Miller *doesn’t remember* being sexually assaulted. Didn’t Somerby make that clear yesterday?<br /><br />The book is about the aftermath of that, her coming to terms with it. It is autobiographical, a genre in which a writer tells the reader about herself. <br /><br />This post is typical Somerby, all insinuation but no clear statement of anything. He poses questions, only to claim that he can’t answer them. <br /><br />His odd sentence as quoted above leads one to ask:<br /><br />Is he trying to suggest that the assault never happened, that perhaps the sex was consensual, that liberals have created another fairy tale surrounding this event, that Miller (perhaps unwittingly, because she is so “young”, at 27 years old) is helping to further this fairy tale by embellishing or creating facts about herself? Can her “peculiar” description of herself really be an attempt to make herself seem more innocent and flawless than she in fact is?<br /><br />We can’t answer these questions. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-36972222766746299892019-10-23T11:49:59.367-04:002019-10-23T11:49:59.367-04:00Miller is doing what women must do when victims of...Miller is doing what women must do when victims of sexual assault. She’s making it clear that despite the fact she got blackout drunk at a party and went out to pee in the yard (a scenario that happens occasionally at that age....so I’ve been informed ...), she’s a nice, unassuming girl, who wouldn’t sweep an ant off a picnic blanket. Ceceliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162272807640653299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-85212471983747908162019-10-23T11:48:11.562-04:002019-10-23T11:48:11.562-04:00I'm not even sure what Somerby is complaining ...I'm not even sure what Somerby is complaining about here. Is he disputing Weiner's interpretation of the quoted passage about Miller being "shy"? Is he claiming that a piece of writing cannot be interpreted more than one way? Is he arguing that Weiner should not have liked Miller's book or expressed appreciation for it in a book review? Somerby doesn't even bother making a clear claim in this post, probably because the "evidence" he cites doesn't support his predetermined conclusion.<br /><br />TL/DR: Blah blah blah, this is just another Somerby whine where he builds his I Hate Liberals argument on the most specious foundation.<br />Pedlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05738796082527503637noreply@blogger.com