WHAT SHOULD BE DONE: Swabs are easy, discourse is hard!

MONDAY, APRIL 20, 2020

Charles Blow gets it (half) right:
We're pleased to make an important announcement:

In this morning's New York Times, Charles Blow gets it (half) right!

In print editions, Blow's column appears beneath a brisk headline, along with a boxed sub-head. Those headlines run like this, exclamation point included:
Stop Airing Trump's Briefings!
Allowing disinformation to appears as news.
Is it time to stop airing these daily Six to Eight O'Clock Follies? We recommend Blow's entire piece, but he makes his main case here:
BLOW (4/20/20): Let me be clear: Under no circumstance should these briefings be carried live. Doing so is a mistake bordering on journalistic malpractice. Everything a president does or says should be documented but airing all of it, unfiltered, is lazy and irresponsible.

As the veteran anchor Ted Koppel told The New York Times last month, “Training a camera on a live event, and just letting it play out, is technology, not journalism; journalism requires editing and context.” He continued, “The question, clearly, is whether his status as president of the United States obliges us to broadcast his every briefing live.” His answer was “no.”

We have trained the American television audience to understand that regular programs are only interrupted for live events when they are truly important, things that the viewers need to see now, in real time. These briefings simply don’t reach that threshold. In fact, some of what Trump has said has been dangerous, like when he pushed an unproven and potentially harmful drug as a treatment for the virus.

No amount of fact checkers, balancing with the briefings of governors, or even occasionally cutting away, can justify carrying these briefings live. The scant amount of new information that these rallies produce could be edited into a short segment for a show. The major headlines from these briefings are often Trump’s clashes with reporters, the differences he has with scientists and the lies he tells. Just like in 2016, it’s all theater.
For ourselves, we wouldn't describe these events as "briefings" in the way Blow does in that passage. But he makes his case very well, getting this matter half right.

Why do we that Blow is just half right? We say that because of the many "failures to perform" which he doesn't mention.

Blow does describe the relentless misconduct of President Trump during these non-briefing briefings.

"The briefings are marked by Trump’s own misinformation, deceptions, rage, blaming and boasting," Blow correctly writes. "He delivers his disinformation flanked by scientists and officials, whose presence only serves to convey credibility to propagandistic performances that have simply become a replacement for his political rallies."

Every point is accurate. Beyond that, Blow notes the lack of actual information which emerges from these events. He contrasts that with the constant onslaughts of rage and the persistent misinformation.

Blow savages the commander in chief in perfectly accurate fashion. But that's pretty much where his analysis ends.

By inference, he does criticizes the cable channels which continue to air these events. But he doesn't name those channels, and he doesn't name the network executives responsible for this decisions.

He doesn't mention the embarrassing way the cable channels start teasing these gong-shows around 5 PM each day. That said, there are other things Blow doesn't mention:

He doesn't mention the scattershot way our upper-end journalists tend to conduct their non-questioning questioning at this absurd events. He doesn't mention the poorly-framed questions these lambs are often inclined to present even when they do attempt to confront their disordered commander.

Finally, he doesn't mention the New York Times and other such major news orgs. He doesn't mention the way these major news orgs have allowed this daily disinformation campaign to go unreported and undiscussed within their own deeply flawed pages.

This weekend's daily sessions were utterly daft. The commander spilled with interruption, invective and rage. Meanwhile, our reporters showed their endless skill at leaving obvious questions unasked.

"Swabs are easy," the commander said yesterday during several mind-numbing monologues. It was only one in a succession of dispiriting points made during yesterday's session.

"Swabs are easy, ventilators are hard," this dumbest of all known Americans actually said at one point.

He failed to explain why, if swabs should have been so easy for the nation's governors to acquire, he had now announced, for the first time, that he would be using the Defense Production Act to compel their manufacture.

That apparent paradox went unresolved during yesterday's scattershot questions and rambling non-answer answers. At one point, the commander even fell back on an earlier, absurd-sounding claim as he discussed the swabs:
TRUMP (4/19/20): They have a lot of them, some of them, some of the states. They were shipped to states and the states don’t know where they are.
As once with ventilators, so too now with swabs! Some states have already been given plenty of swabs. They just don't know where they are!

The governors don't know where their swabs are! With that, we cite one last major point Blow doesn't mention today:

He didn't mention the failure of major orgs, like the New York Times, to discuss the possibility that something is badly wrong inside the commander's head. This refusal to serve by our major news orgs has helped create the predicament we now find ourselves in.

Should these daily "briefings" be aired? Blow argues, very capably, that they shouldn't be aired.

This flies in the face of normal presumptions, according to which a presidential press event is an important matter. That said, we think that Blow makes his basic point extremely well.

On that basis, we'd say that Blow gets this matter half right.

What's to be done, the other Vladimir once thoughtfully asked. Starting tomorrow, we'll answer that long-standing question.

Blow is right about the endless misconduct of our Palooka-in-chief. But he largely gives a pass to the upper-end press elite regarding their treatment of these obscene daily TV shows.

All this week, we'll look at the ways the upper-end press has failed to confront the problem we face. Swabs may be easy, but discourse is hard—as is competent journalism during a time of interlocking plagues.

Anthropologists say our species wasn't built for matters like this. Starting tomorrow, we'll list the actions our elites might want to take if we really are "the rational animal," as such elites have long said.

This afternoon: The scattershot and the fury

53 comments:

  1. The problem isn't that the networks have been broadcasting Trump's daily briefings, it is that the nation elected Trump in 2016. The president speaking to the people is a matter of national interest. The networks recognize that when they carry his briefings. It is not their fault that Trump misuses both the public trust and his time at the podium. Somerby blames the media when he should be blaming Trump.

    This leads me to another point. Is it a coincidence that Somerby spent last week musing about Thoreau amidst his pear tree foliage, just as Trump was rallying his troops to protest stay-at-home orders in Democratic states? Or is Somerby doing his part to create a climate of acceptance for Trumpies waving Confederate and Don't Tread on Me flags while breaking social distancing rules with glee? While he gets to pretend to be an aging hippie, since Thoreau was used to justify 60s civil disobedience and anti-war protests. Is Thoreau really the right man for our times? Or might not someone urging collective responsibility be more appropriate than a Me-First curmudgeon?

    The people have the right to see what they chose, in his unwashed natural state. How else are they to make a better choice in 2020? But Somerby calls for an action that would essentially shield Trump from any connection with or accountability for his mistakes. I want people to hear Trump say that swabs are easy. Why does Somerby want to let Trump off the hook (which is what Blow's proposal would do)?

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  2. Greg, what do you think would be a better way to approach this? Take away "ad hominem" language, for example. Is there a legitimate criticism of the Trump briefings and the less than rigorous media coverage left standing? Or is that lacking too? When you dismiss Somerby (with sadness rather than rancor) as an "idiot," that suggests you don't see anything of value in his critique. (Plus it seems like an "ad hominem" attack itself.)

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  3. "Blow is right about the endless misconduct of our Palooka-in-chief. But he largely gives a pass to the upper-end press elite regarding their treatment of these obscene daily TV shows."

    So, Blow gets only half marks because: (1) he doesn't call the president crazy, and (2) he doesn't complain that his own employer and other high level media haven't yanked Trump off the air.

    Somerby wants Blow to engage in actions that would surely cost him his job (or any chance at advancement). He demands a course of action that no one in their right mind would take. So Blow remains half a mensch.

    Somerby has apparently forgotten the sensitivity of referring to any African American as less than a whole person. It reminds us of the bad old days when slaves were counted as 3/5 of a person for census purposes. Yes, we know he is talking about "credit" and not personhood, but Somerby has never said anything unqualified positive about Blow. Today, he uses him as a vehicle to advance his own views that Trump should be suppressed by Democratic interests (so he can claim censorship and martyrdom) and that he should be called mentally ill (so his followers can put that on a t-shirt, just as they did with Hillary's deplorable remark, true though it was).

    But yes, Somerby must be a liberal. He says he is so it must be true. And no one supports this blog -- Somerby just gets up 6 days a week and writes this Trump-serving nonsense out of ego, or the goodness of his heart, or something. No paycheck from Russia or the some Trump PAC needed. Somerby's urge toward self-expression is that strong! Any resemblance to Republican talking points here is strictly coincidental.

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    1. Every day, as soon as the 5 o'clock follies begin, I start seeing twitter messages from people like Joe Scarborough and Mika and Chris Hayes all who work for MSNBC questioning why their network is carrying the shit show live.
      The don't seem to be worried about their jobs.

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    2. OK, point taken, but I still don't think it is right to deny a president air time for a press briefing. It just seems too political to designate his briefings as campaign rallies and bar them for that reason. The right doesn't think Trump is telling lies and his briefings look legitimate to them, so taking them off would appear to be partisan and really hurt a Democratic candidate's chances of winning, in my opinion. It wouldn't sit well with me, and I actually am a liberal. Every president in my lifetime has used a press briefing to make self-serving and self-aggrandizing comments. The lying is a different matter and it does have a cost, but you cannot take away a president's right to address the people just because he isn't handling a crisis properly. If he is messing up that badly, there are other remedies that should be taken, another impeachment for example.

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    3. for a press briefing

      Which he turns into a campaign rally.

      This isn't very difficult, we know who he is.

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    4. Somerby has apparently forgotten the sensitivity of referring to any African American as less than a whole person. It reminds us of the bad old days when slaves were counted as 3/5 of a person for census purposes.

      And you have apparently “forgotten” that TDH wote not a single word about the worth of Charles Blow as a person.

      Yes, we know he is talking about "credit" and not personhood,

      But then, no. We find out that you knew you were full of shit when you wrote your comment, but you posted it anyway.

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  4. I basically agree with Blow. These pressers have almost morphed into Trump rallies. A few days ago, Dr. Birx gave a great presentation on testing. But, that was exceptional. Then last two days had very little virus-related news.

    BTW, the reason why the cable channels start teasing these gong-shows around 5 PM each day is because they're scheduled for 5 PM. I find it annoying to wait for an unknown amount of time for it to begin. Yesterday's wait was well over an hour.

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    1. Yeah, David, you fucking fascist, but at least you got to watch Donald J Chickenshit, Acting President, call career FBI agents "human scum". I bet that gave you a woody, eh, shithead?

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    2. mm - I am big on civil liberties. When FBI agents lie and abuse their powers for political purposes, when they wire-tap a Presidential campaign to try to defeat him. When they continue to lie and to abuse their powers to try to get him thrown out of office, these are terrible things.

      We have given enormous powers to our spy agencies. Much of what they do is hidden from the public. When these agencies to abuse their powers for political purposes, all Americans should frightened, no matter whether they're Dems or Reps. Sadly, things are so partisan that today's liberals care less about civil liberties than about which side is helped and which side is hurt.

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    3. David, they didn't do that stuff. You are confusing what they were accused of with what they were actually shown to have done.

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    4. But first remove trumps cock

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    5. Shorter DinC: "Shall I wash your dick Sir?".

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    6. Kudos to DinC: He ignored his urges to denigrate and make racist comments about Obama.

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    7. @2:54 As a teen-ager, I went with a group to attend one of MLK's Washington marches. For decades I was a member of the NAACP. I only left when they chose an anti-semitic leader. What are your contributions to black equality?

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    8. "What are your contributions to black equality?"

      Pointing out the Republican Party is devoted to voter suppression.
      Also, I didn't cry when Colin Kaepernick protested police brutality against blacks.

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    9. "What are your contributions to black equality?"

      I never vote for a Republican.

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  5. I'll take my elbow to your face. I'm through messing around.

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  6. Hilarious! Beautifully done, sir. And a knee to the groin as well. Ha, ha, ha.

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  7. I'll meet you at midnight tonight.

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  8. You're on! I'll be wearing the Anonymous mask.

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  9. "But he largely gives a pass to the upper-end press elite regarding their treatment of these obscene daily TV shows."

    I just watched the movie Bombshell. It makes me wonder why Somerby has never called out the upper end press elite for their mistreatment of women in the media. Were they all protecting Matt Lauer at NBC, as suggested in the first episode of Season 4 of the Good Fight?

    Domestic violence has increased with men trapped at home with their families, such that calls to hotlines have increased by 15-20% all across the nation. But there's nothing in the media about that. Obviously not important to Somerby or Blow, but misogyny is one of the Four Corners of white supremacism, so it is an indicator of white terrorism, like that emerging to dispute stay-at-home orders and "liberate" states with Democratic governors. Isn't that more important than writing about whether Trump thinks swabs are easy to get?

    Liberals are concerned about such issues. Somerby is concerned about whether Blow is sufficiently chastising the high end press. What is wrong with this picture?

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    1. It makes me wonder why Somerby has never called out the upper end press elite for their mistreatment of women in the media.

      But, of course, he has. TDH repeatedly ripped Keith Olbermann for the latter’s treatment of women.

      Domestic violence has increased with men trapped at home with their families,…. But there's nothing in the media about that.

      But, of course, there is:

      From April 6, the New York Times

      A New Covid-19 Crisis: Domestic Abuse Rises Worldwide
      Movement restrictions aimed to stop the spread of the coronavirus may be making violence in homes more frequent, more severe and more dangerous.


      Back to Corby:

      Liberals are concerned about such issues. Somerby is concerned about whether Blow is sufficiently chastising the high end press. What is wrong with this picture?

      There’s nothing wrong with this picture. TDH is concerned with public discourse about events. That’s the topic of this blog.

      You see what I mean when I characterize your comments?

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    2. Corby, with the rise in calls to hotlines involving the white male domestic abuser corner of the Four Corner of White Supremacism, if we can have a discussion, wouldn’t a more rational conversation about reopening society be in order? More rational than the political sentiments we’ve seen of late.

      Perhaps one that is a little more friendly than calling scared and stressed-out people selfish beasts for fearing that their employers are going to go under and that there will be nothing there when we finally unlock the doors.

      You know... something that acknowledges the immense pressure people are under, but doesn’t attempt to persuade them to stay home by calling them pejoratives?

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    3. Corby, it’s interesting to me that you watched a movie about Fox News and Ailes and saw a tv show episode that made some allusion to Matt Lauer.

      I know Ailes ran a network, but Matt Lauer has a particular personae and imprimatur that would seem to be the stuff of movies too. Lauer was the handsome and affable crush of a great many women who watched the show. The guy who was simultaneously appreciative of them as women and respectful.

      I question how many could pick Ailes out in a photo or know that he was in charge at Fox News. Lauer on the other hand was a household name in the industry. What symbol more persuasively brings home the institutionalization of run amuck sexism?

      Here’s a video of Katie Couric in 2017, assuring America that sexual harassment in media outlets was a “Fox News anomaly” after having worked with Lauer for years and a bit before she claimed to have internally sounded the alarm about a male predictor culture at CBS News before that network’s trouble became public.

      https://youtu.be/_oQTlpfOgbQ

      start at 2:06

      How likely is it that Couric didn’t know that she was offering up bunk, but bunk against the right people? How long did this woman turn her head?

      Now we see the charge against Biden. Or at least we heard it mentioned twice on CNN.

      Maybe that’s a convo about the Four Corners of White Supremacism that needs to be had too.

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    4. Cecelia,
      The USA is the richest country in the history of mankind. We have WAY more than enough money to provide for every man, woman, and child.
      No snowflake should be worried about their job during a pandemic.

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    5. Anonymouse 7:29 pm I have a feeling that’ this great news is NOT going to be what Democrats campaign on this year. Though I do love your optimism.

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    6. More likely Dems will campaign on Trump's low approval/ high disapproval ratings.
      I'd like to see them point out Trump is a standard-issue Reagan Republican while they are at it.

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  10. Local news coverage: Trump gives $19 billion in aid to farmers; local farmer thanks the federal government for its excellent help.

    Local news coverage: Trump declares federal disaster for state because of Coronavirus; aid to follow.

    Local letter to the editor: why can’t the liberal media quit hounding Trump and let him do his job?

    Local news channel: weekly Sinclair Media news analysis hosted by Eric Bolling.

    Lawrence O’Donnell, he of the “liberal media”, can tweet all he wants to (as he recently did) that Trump is a sociopath. Will that convince that farmer or that letter writer?

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  11. “He didn't mention the failure of major orgs, like the New York Times, to discuss the possibility that something is badly wrong inside the commander's head.”

    Even Somerby himself hedges his bet by saying the “possibility” rather than the certainty that “something is badly wrong inside the commander's head.” Thus, any “discussion” of Trump having something badly wrong inside his head is necessarily speculation, which belongs on the op-ed pages, and not in investigative news reports. This isn’t like delving into corruption or injustice; there is no source of factual evidence that can be uncovered here. Any discussion of Trump’s mental state starts and ends with opinions of lay people or psychiatrists such as Bandy Lee who have never personally had a session with Trump.

    How is it not a kind of journalistic malpractice that Somerby is urging?

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  12. Somerby wants the networks not to air the briefings. Does he mean only the “mainstream” networks? What about Fox? Or C-Span? Does every media organization have to decide that the briefings of the duly elected president are bad and should not be aired? Unless and until all media orgs stop airing them, they will be available somewhere for people to view.

    And it does no good to exchange one focus on Trump (the briefings) with another: a discussion of Trump’s mental state. That still leaves Trump the center of the discussion, which is just fine by Trump.

    I would much rather the media discuss the evils of Barr and Mcconnell and the GOP, and frankly, it would be worthwhile for Somerby to focus on that a bit more.

    How about a TDH post analyzing and critiquing Barr’s speech to the Federalist Society and how this shows Barr’s “sociopathy?”

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    1. Fool me once, shame on you.

      Fool me 55 times in a row, then I am not really being fooled.

      If you don’t want to take the bait, but you feel you cannot ignore — and by ignoring accept — his behavior, then a distinction worth making is between coverage in which Trump is the protagonist, and coverage where his actions are reported, but he is not the main character. 15/

      — Jay Rosen (@jayrosen_nyu) July 21, 2019

      To summarize: He is not the central character, the White House is not the “nerve center” for the national response, and his daily briefing is not a good way to update us on where we are. He said the governors are now calling the shots. Rather than try to see through it, journalists have to look squarely at that confession, and adapt to what it says.

      https://pressthink.org/2020/04/five-improvements-in-the-design-of-coronavirus-coverage/

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    2. With all the email and texts I’ve gotten with coronavirus memes (many so funny and ironic that memes could be made of reactions to these memes), I think the best way to inform the public is thru memes.

      There’s one that shows one guy disco dancing and as his makes a dance move two people identical to himself shoot from his fingers. As these two new people dance away, two more people shoot from them and so on... exponentially.

      It’s sobering.

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    3. @mm
      Or as Bush liked to say: “ fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me twice...uh...can’t get fooled again”

      Rosen has some interesting ideas about the media, but demanding that they call Trump mentally ill doesn’t seem to be one of them.

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  13. Dear @deadrat:

    “How Good Are Our COVID-19 Models?”

    https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/04/how-good-are-our-covid-19-models/

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    1. There are better models and worse models. I'm no expert, but from what I've read, strictly statistical models (i.e., those that analyze past data with no regard to modeling interactions) are on the worse end. I can't tell what kind of model Drum is criticizing, but here's his conclusion:

      Still, an enormous disparity in countermeasures produced a difference in R0 of only 1.0 vs. 1.5. That doesn’t seem like an awful lot.

      Please tell me you understand how monumentally clueless that comment is. You gotta be able to evaluate both the reports and the critics of the reports.

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    2. That statement did not come from the article I linked to.

      Drum’s conclusion, in the article I linked to, is:

      “Right now, an awful lot of the model inputs are assumptions with very little empirical backup because COVID-19 is so new, so you should take nearly any model projection with a big grain of salt.”

      So, given that, as you say, an Ro of 1 vs 1.5 is a significant difference, then that supports, rather than undermines, the point that we don’t have a proper model of the Coronavirus, since, among many other things, we don’t know that value as of yet.

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    3. The problem here with Drum’s report is basic innumeracy.

      This is a guy who thinks that the difference between an R0=1.0 and an R0=1.5 isn’t much because 1.5 - 1.0 = .5, and one-half isn’t a very big number. I’ll ask again: do you understand that the difference is a big deal? Do you understand why?

      Drum thinks that the models’ inputs are “assumptions” because COVID-19 is “so new.” Do you understand how utterly clueless that statement is?

      Drum thinks that we should take any model projection “with a big grain of salt,” apparently unaware that all models have those grains built in. Please tell me that you realize that.

      If you’re relying on Drum to claim that we don’t have a proper model of COVID-19, then you’re as clueless as he is. What we’re missing in the US is accurate enough input data to make reliable long-term predictions. But that doesn’t mean the models are bad or that their short-term predictions aren’t useful.

      We have accurate data from other countries like South Korea and Italy, and this put bounds on R0. The rapid spread from Wuhan means that the unconstrained R0 must be at least 1.5.

      Suppose we did nothing as we waited for better data. With an R0 of 1.5, and 2 days for infected person to meet his transmission quota, how long do you think it would take for the virus to infect just about everybody?

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    4. From what I've been reading, the Ro doesn't only depend on the characteristics of the virus (how it spreads) but also on the measures taken to reduce infections (masks, stay-at-home). That means that an assumption that Wuhan was unconstrained may or may not be true and will affect the Ro value. We don't know how much efforts to reduce Ro affect the actual value of Ro (how effective social distancing is in different areas of the country, e.g., LA is less dense in population than NYC, subway is different than bus). So we cannot know the Ro value for a US model just from knowing an unconstrained upper limit from Wuhan. We can know that doing nothing is bad, but using the Wuhan upper limit just tells us potentially how bad it could potentially be, not a reasonable estimate of how bad it will be in CA.

      Daily, there are changing discussions about how much masks help stop infection. There are new estimates of how far droplets travel and lately a suggestion that the virus is more infectious than originally thought. That affects Ro too. If resistance to social distancing is a variable, it is going to be different in places where there are more Tea Party types, than in places with fewer (such as LA) and how do you quantify ignorance and poverty into compliance with social distancing? So, again, it may be trivial to figure out a worst case value but very difficult to estimate a more likely value for Ro. In a situation of scarcity of not only equipment but also drugs to treat COVID using a ventilator, PPE and beds, making an accurate estimate means not having too many supplies left over and being able to share with areas that have fewer resources. Everyone preparing for worst case is not the best way to manage a crisis like this.

      So there is greater difficulty than you seem willing to recognize, because there is a difference between your worst case estimate and a useful estimate that can be used for effective planning.

      I agree that Drum sounded pretty clueless. But that isn't because he is innumerate. It is because he hasn't been following the details of the virus closely and perhaps doesn't know much about medical realities of treating it. I would lighten up on him, since he can't know everything about the background (what is behind the numbers) of every graph he produces.

      The inputs to models are parameters. The values assigned to those parameters can be measurements or they can be assumptions, values used in place of unknown factors. You are using Wuhan as such an assumption, but you don't know that the unconstrained Ro for Covid would be the same in Los Angeles, for example, as in a very different culture, and the Ro depends not just on the virus itself but also on the behavior of the human hosts.

      And, as you note, our data is crappy.

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    5. Influential Covid-19 model uses flawed methods and shouldn’t guide U.S. policies, critics say

      https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/17/influential-covid-19-model-uses-flawed-methods-shouldnt-guide-policies-critics-say/

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    6. I have a few disagreements with your comment, but they’re quibbles, and I don’t want to distract from such a cogent response.

      And, yes. I’m serious.

      What I really want to know is this: Who are you, and what have you done with the professor?

      Never mind. I don’t need to know if you’ll agree to do all of her commenting.

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    7. Billy, so the Trumpers are using a curve-matching program that attempts to make predictions about the course of the Trumpandemic without taking any epidemiological factors into account. And it turns out to be unreliable.

      What's your point?

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    8. The IHME model is statistical, rather than epidemiological, and has been used by, among others, Anthony Fauci. (Is he a “Trumper?”) It was the source of the original high death numbers (of 100,000 to 240,000) used in the media and publicly stated by Fauci and Birx. The IHME model has been revised as mitigation efforts have been enacted.

      The IHME isn’t exactly some right-wing crank organization; it was founded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. One of its founding members was Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, currently director of the WHO.

      My point is that there are numerous models out there that give different projections, and it’s unclear which one is the “right” one, given the lack of data with this virus.

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  14. "Stop Airing Trump's Briefings!"

    Good. This is the most definite, undeniable sign that liberal establishment is indeed a zombie cult, and that it is collapsing.

    Liberal establishment is not capable of functioning without totalitarian control of information. Total suppression of anything infidel, and where it's impossible to suppress - hysterical denunciation of anything and everything infidel as subversive propaganda of 'Enemies of The People'. Russian agents and what-not.

    Every time I see this - and it's all over zombie media - I know: this is your liberal cult's agony, dear Bob.

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    1. Moa,
      I liked it better back when you pretended you didn't love the establishment.
      I realize you see the writing on the wall, and that the GOP has lost the Presidency, and will most likely lose the Senate too, but I still miss your gas lighting.

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    Hello my fellow friends online I'm Diana Gilbert from USA, I want to use this medium to thank Dr Great because he brought back my Ex husband. my husband left me for his ex girlfriend he had before he married me it's a difficult situation for me I called and beg him to come back he refused he said he don't love me anymore I tried every possible way to get him back all was in vain I told my friend about it and she gave me Dr Great email and I emailed him and told him my problem and he told me what to do and I did it and he cast a love spell which brought back my husband within 24 hours. If you need help in getting back together with your Ex, email Dr Great at infinitylovespell@gmail.com or infinitylovespell@yahoo.com WhatsApp him+2348118829899 view his blog http://infinitylovespell1.blogspot.com you can also visit my blog http://dianagilbert05.over-blog.com/








    POWERFUL SPELL CASTER THAT BROUGHT MY EX HUSBAND BACK INTO MY LIFE AFTER HE LEFT ME EMAIL HIM VIA EMAIL INFINITYLOVESPELL@GMAIL.COM OR INFINITYLOVESPELL@YAHOO.COM ADD HIM ON WHATSAPP +2348118829899 

    Hello my fellow friends online I'm Diana Gilbert from USA, I want to use this medium to thank Dr Great because he brought back my Ex husband. my husband left me for his ex girlfriend he had before he married me it's a difficult situation for me I called and beg him to come back he refused he said he don't love me anymore I tried every possible way to get him back all was in vain I told my friend about it and she gave me Dr Great email and I emailed him and told him my problem and he told me what to do and I did it and he cast a love spell which brought back my husband within 24 hours. If you need help in getting back together with your Ex, email Dr Great at infinitylovespell@gmail.com or infinitylovespell@yahoo.com WhatsApp him+2348118829899 view his blog http://infinitylovespell1.blogspot.com you can also visit my blog http://dianagilbert05.over-blog.com/








    POWERFUL SPELL CASTER THAT BROUGHT MY EX HUSBAND BACK INTO MY LIFE AFTER HE LEFT ME EMAIL HIM VIA EMAIL INFINITYLOVESPELL@GMAIL.COM OR INFINITYLOVESPELL@YAHOO.COM ADD HIM ON WHATSAPP +2348118829899 

    Hello my fellow friends online I'm Diana Gilbert from USA, I want to use this medium to thank Dr Great because he brought back my Ex husband. my husband left me for his ex girlfriend he had before he married me it's a difficult situation for me I called and beg him to come back he refused he said he don't love me anymore I tried every possible way to get him back all was in vain I told my friend about it and she gave me Dr Great email and I emailed him and told him my problem and he told me what to do and I did it and he cast a love spell which brought back my husband within 24 hours. If you need help in getting back together with your Ex, email Dr Great at infinitylovespell@gmail.com or infinitylovespell@yahoo.com WhatsApp him+2348118829899 view his blog http://infinitylovespell1.blogspot.com you can also visit my blog http://dianagilbert05.over-blog.com/

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  17. My name is Selena Gomez, and I base in USA...My life is back!!! After 1 year of Broken marriage, my husband left me with two kids . I felt like my life was about to end i almost committed suicide, i was emotionally down for a very long time. Thanks to a spell caster called Dr. Adeyemi Adeshina, which i met online. On one faithful day, as I was browsing through the internet,I came across allot of testimonies about this particular spell caster. Some people testified that he brought their Ex lover back, some testified that he restores womb,cure cancer,and other sickness, some testified that he can cast a spell to stop divorce and so on. i also come across one particular testimony,it was about a woman called Helen, she testified about how he brought back her Ex lover in less than 2 days, and at the end of her testimony she dropped Dr. Adeyemi Adeshina's e-mail address. After reading all these,I decided to give it a try. I contacted him via email and explained my problem to him. In just 48hours, my husband came back to me. We solved our issues, and we are even happier than before Dr. Adeyemi Adeshina, is really a gifted man and i will not stop publishing him because he is a wonderful man... If you have a problem and you are looking for a real and genuine spell caster to solve all your problems for you. Dr. Adeyemi Adeshina, anytime, he is the answer to your problems. You can contact him:

    Email: adeyemia192@gmail.com
    Whatsapp him +2348167872468.

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  18. I want to thank of great Dr. Todd he brought my boyfriend back to me. i had seen many people to get him back but nothing, Dr. Todd gave me a consultation and told me all truth, and I trusted Dr. Todd and had him do the spells for me. it took awhile because it was very very messy between us. i had to wait for each spell to do its work. but once the last spell finally was working and the other spells had worked, that is when he called. we met. then it took many more meetings. but now we are back together and i can only thank Dr. Todd, he is the greatest, i will come to Dr. Todd for life. Todd took care of me like family. contact; manifest spell cast @gmail. com manifestspellcast.wordpress.com WhatsApp:+1 604 901 9747

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  19. A GREAT SPELL CASTER (DR. EMU) THAT HELP ME BRING BACK MY EX GIRLFRIEND.
    Am so happy to testify about a great spell caster that helped me when all hope was lost for me to unite with my ex-girlfriend that I love so much. I had a girlfriend that love me so much but something terrible happen to our relationship one afternoon when her friend that was always trying to get to me was trying to force me to make love to her just because she was been jealous of her friend that i was dating and on the scene my girlfriend just walk in and she thought we had something special doing together, i tried to explain things to her that her friend always do this whenever she is not with me and i always refuse her but i never told her because i did not want the both of them to be enemies to each other but she never believed me. She broke up with me and I tried times without numbers to make her believe me but she never believed me until one day i heard about the DR. EMU and I emailed him and he replied to me so kindly and helped me get back my lovely relationship that was already gone for two months.
    Email him at: Emutemple@gmail.com  
    Call or Whats-app him: +2347012841542

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  20. My husband and I have been married for over 10 years. We met when I was 18 and he was 21. We’ve been through a lot emotionally together. There were several HUGE fights and painful situations in our marriage, but we always seemed to come out stronger on the other side. Out of the blue my husband just sprung the divorce talk on me, I was totally depressed until I found Dr.Todd website online and I ordered for a Love spell. You won’t believe my husband called me at the exact time this spell caster finished his spell work in 48hrs. I was totally amazed! He is wonderful and his spells work so fast. His Email: manifestspellcast@ gmail. com manifestspellcast.wordpress.com
    WhatsApp:+1 604 901 9747

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  21. How I Got My Ex Husband Back..Am so excited to share my testimony of a real spell caster who brou. We were happily married with two kids, a boy and a girl. 3 months ago, I started to notice some strange behavior from him and a few weeks later I found out that my husband is seeing someone else. He started coming home late from work, he hardly care about me or the kids anymore, Sometimes he goes out and doesn't even come back home for about 2-3 days. I did all I could to rectify this problem but all to no avail. I became very worried and needed help. As I was browsing through the internet one day, I came across a website that suggested that Dr  Aluya   can help solve marital problems, restore broken relationships and so on. So, I felt I should give him a try. I contacted him and and told him my problems and he told me what to do and i did it and he did a spell for me. 48 hours later, my husband came to me and apologized for the wrongs he did and promise never to do it again. Ever since then, everything has returned back to normal. I and my family are living together happily again.. All thanks to Dr  Aluya Powerful Love Spell that really works. If you have any problem contact him and i guarantee you that he will help you. He will not disappoint you. Email him at:  aluya.48hoursspelltemple@gmail.com  or whatsapp him on:  +2348110493039      you can also go through his website   draluya48hoursspelltemple.webs.com/

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