TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 16, 2025
She seemed to be fully sincere: Friend, how about it? Did you have the nerve to take yesterday morning's Daily Howler Challenge?
Did you watch the videotape of the start of Sunday's Fox & Friends Weekend program?
In real time, we had been struck by the jumble of claims and insinuations as that program got started. By 6:07 a.m., Rachel Campos-Duffy had seemed to suggest, several times, that the accused assailant, Tyler Robinson, was himself transgender.
Perhaps that wasn't what she meant, but it's what she had seemed to say. At one point, guest co-host Kevin Corke had possibly seemed to agree.
Dear friend, there had been more! At 6:05, Lawrence Jones had oddly said that "the line of questioning" at Charlie Kirk's UVU event "got to the transgender issue before the shot was fired. So all of that is connected to what the investigators are going to be looking at."
In fact, Kirk was being questioned about a transgender issue when the fatal shot was fired. Was Jones suggesting that this was something other than a coincidence? That's the way his unexplained statement might have sounded.
By 6:09, it was time for more from Jones. By now, the conversation, such as it was, had actually gotten to this:
JONES (9/14/25): You know, I have some personal friends of mine that are on the left, and we were going back and forth this weekend about what is an extremist and what is not an extremist. And they have the point of view that they condemn what happened to Charlie, but he was extreme.
I was like, those have legal ramifications! When you call someone an extremist, this pushes people to the edge, to feeling they've got to—
CAMPOS-DUFFY: Yeah.
JONES: When you call someone Hitler, when you say they're a threat to democracy—
CORKE: A fascist!
JONES: —some people, in their brain, feels like you've got to stop that person!
For some people, that may well be true! That said, we now seemed to have reached the point where, if you think that someone's extreme, you can't give voice to that view.
The same objection holds if you think that someone—President Trump, to cite one example—is a threat to democracy. Apparently according to Jones, if you think that someone's a threat to democracy, you should keep such thoughts to yourself.
That's extremely undercooked thinking. Meanwhile, left unstated was an obvious fact:
President Trump makes such statements every day of the week and several times on Sundays! Unless you're watching the Fox News Channel, on whose programs Christian soldiers like Campos-Duffy, Corke and Jones will never mention such facts.
We'll offer a simple assessment:
Campos-Duffy, Jones and Corke may be completely sincere. But they belong on a major American news broadcast in much the way that they should be the starting backfield for the Green Bay Packers this week.
Most people aren't equipped to play for the Green Back Packers. We ourselves aren't qualified to play for the Packers, and certainly not as a starter.
Similarly, many people aren't equipped to be part of a major news broadcast. That doesn't mean that they're bad people. It means that they're people people, possessing all the limitations and flaws that human flesh is heir to.
We were especially struck by what we saw on Sunday morning because of something we'd seen on Fox & Friends Weekend the day before. It had happened on the Saturday broadcast, in a segment which started at 6:52 a.m.
On that occasion, Kevin Corke introduced a guest. This is what he said:
CORKE (9/13/25): As we continue to celebrate Charlie's life and memory, shocking and sickening celebrations of his death have occurred on social media, and those who are mourning him have actually faced heated backlash. Independent journalist Evita Duffy-Alonso joining us now with reaction.
So great to have you with us, my friend! I just want to set the table here by asking you about your experience as you watch some of the reaction. How has it struck you?
That's what the guest host said as he introduced the independent journalist. For the record:
The young journalist welcomed by Corke is 25 years old. To our eye and ear, she was fully sincere in every word she said this day, but the American experiment is nearing its end when people like this are sent on the air to offer to offer assessments of this type:
DUFFY-ALONSO (continuing directly): I mean it's been unconscionable. I mean, this is—the reaction itself is such a good example of how there is no intellectual diversity on the left.
Not only is there no intellectual diversity on the left towards the right, they're not even tolerant of diversity on their own side. And there are deadly consequences, clearly, to not agreeing with them.
Obama said, right after Charlie was killed, "We don't know what motivated this." I think Obama should know what motivated this. It was his entire career...
Say what? The motivation for the murder of Charlie Kirk was President Obama's career? Hs entire career?
That's what the young woman said. We offer these surface assessments:
The young woman introduced by Corke as "my friend" is highly telegenic. To our eye and to our ear, she seemed to be fully sincere.
Also, part of her name sounded somewhat familiar. Later, we googled it out.
Tomorrow morning, we'll show you the rest of what this "independent journalist" said about the way the murder of Kirk tracks straight back to Obama. For the record, her brief segment at the end of the 6 o'clock hour ended with this:
DUFFY-ALONSO: The left can't even have—the radical left—a normal human reaction to the death of a father, of a husband, of a Christian man. I think that speak volumes.
CORKE: Evita, have a wonderful weekend. We appreciate your time this morning.
As you may know, we've long suspected that the American experiment, imperfect as it always has been, is already over. We could be wrong about that, of course.
There can be little doubt concerning a different fact. The Fox News Channel is devoted to the task of sending pretenders out onto the air.
They may not know that they're pretenders; they may be fully sincere. But pretenders is what they actually are, and they tend to be spilling over with ardent tribal belief.
Other pretenders refuse to report this. Nothing to look at, they've said.
How, in the name of Republican voters trying to overthrow an election just because black people's votes were counted in it, can someone incite violence?
ReplyDeleteDuffy-Alonso is jealous, because Tyler Robinson's use of 2nd Amendment Rights was far more effective than Charlie Kirk's Watchlist bullshit.
ReplyDeleteto your room, young man
DeleteDon't sell thoughts and prayers short.
ReplyDeleteEver since I started offering them to every Right-winger with a grievance, I feel so much better about myself.
Best part? They don't cost you anything.
We offer them for you and mean it and it doesn't feel better. We're just better than you.
DeleteThanks.
DeleteI'll pay for your next four abortions, if you're ever in Texas.
Better at political murders that's for sure, Groyper bitch.
Delete"President Trump said the U.S. military on Monday again targeted a boat allegedly carrying drugs from Venezuela, killing three aboard the vessel..."
ReplyDeleteIf executing suspected drug dealers from Venezuela is a good thing, wouldn't executing suspected US drug dealers also be a good thing?
We'll get there.
DeleteH - Well, now we know that, on the high seas at least, Trump can kill without repercussion. How long before we find out whether he can do so on Fifth Avenue?
DeleteWho the hell is going to stop him, DG? Roberts? Bondi? Patel? Jesus Christ, we are no longer a democracy, when will people admit it.
DeleteVenezuela has protested the previous killing. That is perhaps not being reported in the US, for obvious reasons. This is an act of war that may provoke hostilities between our nations. Trump may be hoping that a declaration by Venezuelan can be used to support his claims that immigrants coming to the US are an invasion. Perhaps Venezuela will complain to the UN or to its own allies, who will react against Trump and the US.
DeleteLike any bully, Trump is picking on someone smaller who he believes will be incapable of retaliation or self-defense. Venezuela's key international allies in 2025 include Russia, China, Cuba, and Iran, Turkey, Syria, and regionally Nicaragua, Bolivia and several Caribbean nations. Hard to see how Trump could attack Venezuela without Russia's permission, or perhaps Trump is not thinking clearly about what he is doing, beyond looking tough by attacking a much smaller boat.
DG, Trump has already killed people. Do they not count because they weren't on 5th Ave?
DeleteMaybe Tyler Robinson thought Charlie Kirk was dealing drugs.
DeleteFrom Tiedrich:
Delete"here’s a fun fact about Venezuela and fentanyl.
Venezuela plays virtually no role in the fentanyl trade.
Fentanyl is almost entirely produced in Mexico with chemicals imported from China, according to the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, the Justice Department and the Congressional Research Service. Mexico is close to the U.S. market, and Mexican cartels already control many fentanyl smuggling routes.
fentanyl doesn’t come from Venezuela — and unlike Colombian cocaine, it’s not even routed through Venezuela.
so please, Donny, tells us again about the big bags of imaginary fentanyl in the water. I love a good fairy tale, don’t you? especially when the moral is fear for your life."
There are already repercussions DG. Nations turning away from America and turning to China for safety and economic growth. So much winning.
DeleteGiven the administration's record identifying Tren de Aragua members -- about 20% of those sent to CECOT in El Salvador might have had some affiliations -- one could reasonably expect that 3 people on the two boats might have had some affiliations. One could scream that batting 200 is horrible, but the previous administration was batting a big fat zero.
DeleteGang members are not randomly distributed across boats.
DeleteThe sophistry is strong in this one…
DeleteNorth Americans have a god-given right to kill South Americans.
DeleteAs a statement of plain of fact: none of you knows who was in those two boats and what was on them. That's just a fact.
DeleteIt does not matter who was in those two boats. Trump does not have the right to destroy boats and kill people in International waters or in Venezuelan waters (he has now done both). The burden of proof is on Trump to show that his attack was justified. He posted a fuzzy image and said there was fentanyl floating in the water. It wasn't there in the picture.
DeleteAs a statement of plain fact, Trump violated international law and treaties and he is in the wrong. If those people on the two boats were actual gang members or drug dealers, there are other ways to handle the situation than to shoot them. Venezuelan has protested what happened.
"Trump may be hoping that [provoking a war with] Venezuela can be used to support his claims that immigrants coming to the US are an invasion." This is a sharp insight and it's truly devastating that it's a real possibility -- that this is what a U.S. president could be up to. We're so far beyond any semblance of normalcy and humanity, and I don't see how things ever get turned around - not in our lifetimes
DeleteWhy is it necessary for Somerby to repeat these exact defamatory conversations word for word? Wouldn't it be sufficient to say that a Fox News guest thinks Obama is responsible for causing Kirk to be shot, without repeating the garbage again, doubling down on the harm to Obama and the left? This advances Fox disinformation and propaganda. And once again Somerby says nothing to debunk the idea. He might as well have said this crap about Obama himself. And then he says he thinks other media should be repeating the abuse of Obama too.
ReplyDeleteIt is unclear what Somerby thinks he is accomplishing by repeating garbage against Obama, who obviously had nothing at all to do with Kirk's shooting. This is another way of targeting the left for something we did not do.
Only conservatives watch Fox News. Why does Somerby watch it 24/7 (as he has himself admitted)? Yes, there is very bad commentary on Fox. We all know that and it is the reason we don't watch it. Why does Somerby? Complaining about anything he sees there is plucking such low hanging fruit that it is embarrassing for Somerby to read these "complaints". Has he deteriorated to the point that this is the best he can do in response to right wing threats to deny freedom of speech to liberals? What is wrong with Somerby?
Here is where Somerby states his own motive:
Delete"As you may know, we've long suspected that the American experiment, imperfect as it always has been, is already over. We could be wrong about that, of course."
When he says "American experiment" he is referring to democracy (as he has previously stated). Who believes democracy is over and that Americans are too flawed to participate effectively in a democracy? Nihilists and fascists. This is their justification for replacing governance by the people with an authoritarian leader. Instead of defending democracy from the right, Somerby joins the right in proclaiming us too flawed to be trusted with free speech.
Those of us on the left mostly dispute this kind of sophistry and are suspicious of those claiming to be "liberal" while disparaging both the citizens of the US and our form of government. But this is a right wing talking point, one that Somerby has advanced here on quite a few previous occasions.
Benjamin Franklin also wondered whether the American people could maintain a republic. Would you classify him as a nihilist or a fascist?
DeleteYes, Somerby and Franklin are like two peas in a pod.
DeleteFranklin spent his last years as an abolitionist, fighting slavery in the US. Somerby is spending his last years musing about sacred Homer while writing bigoted nonsense and advancing right wing memes. They are exactly alike!
DeleteToo much Fox News makes old people grumpy ass clueless creeps. Take David in Cal for instance. Please.
DeleteWould you consider the contention that Fox is a garbage-can propaganda machine to be a “right wing meme”?
DeleteSo Bob is the one who incited Robinson to kill Kirk, because the Right is garbage.
DeleteBob's secret is good with me.
You continue to miss the point that there is no reason to repeat the disinformation spread by Fox. Somerby often says mealy-mouthed negative things about right wingers, then he says "anything is possible" and calls them good decent people, as if he is the world's bestest humanitarian, while saving his vitriol for his left wing targets, as when he refers to Rachel Maddow shoving cash down her pants (a lovely image). Then you come along and pull these disingenuous remarks from his posts and present them as if they were evidence that Somerby is actually a liberal, or something other than a ridiculous person.
DeleteThe idea that Obama had anything to do with this shooting is a right-wing meme and there was no reason to repeat it verbatim, the way Somerby did. There was no reason for Somerby to repeat Jones's ridiculous statement that calling someone extreme puts a target on them.
If anyone wants to watch Fox News, they can go there and do it themselves. To its credit, Fox has never billed itself as liberal or Democratic, the way Somerby does on a regular basis. And then he proceeds to both-sides the hell out of issues while calling Democrats too fucked up to participate in a democracy.
If Somerby accidentally said "the sky is blue today" that wouldn't make any other statement he has made true, or false. I clearly specified the meme about Obama as right wing. No one would take a statement that Fox is a propaganda machine to mean that everything they say is propaganda, any more than everything Somerby says is wrong or propaganda or necessarily a right wing meme. But Somerby does routinely spread right wing memes explicitly taken from Fox and identified as something said by specific people on Fox. There is no need for him to do that, especially when he usually does not fact check the quotes he posts (other than to make sure it was what was said on Fox). He repeated ugly stuff about Harris and Walz for example, without rebuttal or fact checking. And today he did that to Obama.
Why do you defend this behavior? It is not the best way to fight misinformation from the right. If you don't think that is necessary to do, then you are not helping to maintain our democracy but doing something else -- perhaps trolling, perhaps defending Somerby and his campaign against liberals, perhaps a fascist or nihilist yourself. Hard to tell given that you only post one-liners and insults against other commenters.
"Wouldn't it be sufficient to say that a Fox News guest thinks Obama is responsible for causing Kirk to be shot, without repeating the garbage again, doubling down on the harm to Obama and the left? This advances Fox disinformation and propaganda"
DeleteIn general, the idea of repeating the details of garbage reasoning is to expose its garbage-y quality.
You seem to assume readers of this blog are so stupid that the mere repetition of obviously flawed reasoning will influence them in the direction of that reasoning.
Don't project your own thinking flaws onto the rest of us.
Mao, David in Cal, Cecelia, and AC/ MA have entered the chat.
DeleteIf you repeat thedetails there is a moral obligation to factcheck them and rebut them.
Delete"If you repeat thedetails there is a moral obligation to factcheck them and rebut them."
DeleteReally? So if I discuss a Fox host saying black is white I have to rebut that claim? Only dum-dums need that kind of rebuttal. And only a real dum-dum thinks there's some moral obligation involved.
You are a dum-dum if you think others automatically know whatever you know, especially about politics.
Delete"You continue to miss the point that there is no reason to repeat the disinformation spread by Fox."
Delete1:06 - No, I don't miss this point; you repeat it incessantly. It's simply that I think it is incorrect. To explain Fox's mendacity, it is necessary to use concrete examples of Fox's propaganda.
Mao is dead. Long live Mao.
DeleteOk, you disagree. But Somerby does not “explain” Fox mendacity.
Delete3:41 - Which is more persuasive?
Delete"Fox is a garbage can."
"Fox is a garbage can. For example, a main star routinely calls women pigs, cows, and whales."
In short, a supported assertion is more persuasive than an unsupported assertion. To show that Fox spews propaganda, Somerby discusses concrete examples of that propaganda.
When Somerby repeats an incorrect piece of right wing propaganda, such as that Biden allowed an open border and did nothing to stop illegal immigration, then he should debunk it.
DeleteObviously people will know thqt women are not literally pigs, cows and whales. But they may not know what Biden did to protect the border and curb illegal immigration. When Somerby quotes the accusation but not the truth, he is forwarding the garbage can's misinformation, not doing a single thing to limit the harm done by Fox's garbage.
Why do I have to keep explaining this to you? Are you a complete and total moron?
I notice you think that Somerby's intention is to persuade people that Fox is a garbage can. If that were true, there are more effective ways to do it. That's why it seems that Somerby's intention is not to "persuade" anyone not to watch Fox, or at least not to believe what they hear there. In the past, Somerby has told readers here that we should be watching Fox because they have "the best facts" and because we will learn things that we won't hear on mainstream media (he called it Blue media). Does that sound like he is trying to convince anyone that Fox is a garbage can? It doesn't to me.
Someone reading the support you suggest is likely to laugh at calling women pigs etc. Better support would be to point out that Fox is unkind to women in general, disrespectful to female guests and that it holds sexist and oppressive views about women and their role in society. Somerby has never done that. He has called Gutfeld a misogynist (in the vein of namecalling that he substitutes for thinking) and used that term incorrectly, displaying his own ignorance or lack of concern about what happens to women on the right.
When I repeat the Right's nonsense propaganda garbage, I make a point of agreeing with them from a Leftist's standpoint.
DeleteThey are snowflakes, who believe nothing they say except the bigotry.
Flabby Slabby, ignoring the poison that Fox et al. continuously vomits out into the culture will only allow it to fester and spread. The Kerry campaign learned this lesson the hard way. It requires push back, which in turn requires quotes and accurate paraphrases. I do agree though that Bob shouldn't just regurgitate it and then express disapproval. There should be factchecking, logic-checking, analysis, etc. And then once it's been neutralized, a counter punch needs to be thrown.
Delete"Are you a complete and total moron?"
DeleteI think I must be, wasting my time with you.
So stop.
Delete"If you feel sorry for him, don't feel so sorry, because he's vicious," the president continued. "What he did with his political opponent and all of the people that he hurt — he hurt a lot of people, Biden, so I really don't feel sorry for him.”
ReplyDeleteTrump, on the news of Joe Biden 's cancer diagnosis.
I know, right? I mean how many disgusting, vile, inhuman things have Trump and his enablers uttered since he rode down the escalator and kicked off his political career by implying that pretty much all Mexican immigrants are rapists and drug dealers? And now they expect the targets of their venom to be civil? Cracka pleez.
DeleteGENEVA — A team of independent experts commissioned by the United Nations' Human Rights Council has concluded that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza, issuing a report Tuesday that calls on the international community to end the genocide and take steps to punish those responsible for it.
ReplyDeleteBreaking: President Stephen Miller has ordered ICE agents in masks to send the United Nations' Human Rights Council to a gulag in El Salvador.
DeleteHe Evita Duffy-Alonso show was produced by currently sidelined FBI something director Dan Bogino. He was sidelined for wanting the Epstein files. Duffy-Alonso is just eye candy grifting for money, consequences be damned. We don't know the shooters motivation. Reagan was politically murdered by Hinckley as, check notes, he wanted to impress Jody Foster. Just a bunch of nasty maggots grifting for money. Google groypers by the way. The answer lies there me thinks.
ReplyDeleteWith all said, I'm sorry to see Kevin Corke in the middle of all this. Many years ago, he served as sports anchor on a newscast here in my local market. I remember seeing him introduced on the air for the first time. He was incredibly young and obviously inexperienced. Over the years, he grew in polish and experience and made his way to assignments on national networks. I saddens me to see him appearing on the F&F sofa.
ReplyDeleteOver the years he learned where the real money was, and honed his grift...
DeleteWhen asked, Trump couldn't name a movie that Robt Redford was in.
ReplyDeleteYou think all the president's men could clue him in.
DeleteHe also said he never heard of Project 2025.
Delete1:52 Hear! Hear!
DeleteSome people are strange
ReplyDelete“People are cheering and hugging in reaction to Luigi Mangione having his terrorism charges dropped. The murder count will stand.
"Free Luigi!"”
They want him to be released, and view him as a hero”
You are strange.
DeleteWhat's the problem, Dickhead?
DeleteSome people think insurance companies using A1 algorithms to decide when you should die to maximize profits is unreasonable. I would never ever think murder would help any. But it is reassuring to see Republicans decisively respond to this disgusting profit over lives credo by spreading the use of A1 algorithms to Medicare and Medicaid. Republicans, the party of life. (Note: this only applies if you are in a womb).
DeleteNobody is freeing Luigi Dickface.
DeleteTrump incited Mangione by calling United HealthCare "woke".
DeleteA1 is incorrect. It is AI, which stands for artificial intelligence. A1 is a sauce you put on meat.
DeleteThe current Secretary of Education says it's A1.
DeleteDemocrats are happy Luigi charge was dropped and that Charlie was shot in the neck.
DeleteIndependents, too, 12:53.
DeleteHow many people is it this time? Is it "millions" or "tens of millions"?
DeleteI don't want to be targeted by the administration so I use their preferred use of A1 over AI. If you don't like it move to France libtard.
DeleteProsecutors tried to charge Mangione with terrorism-related crimes, but didn't present any evidence that lined up with the definition of terrorism under New York law.
DeleteYou can have an opinion that he's guilty of terrorism and make your argument. A prosecutor has to match the evidence to the written definition in the law.
Anyone who doesn't like the judge's decision should blame the prosecution.
Trump said that 300 million people have died from fentanyl and drug trafficking. There are 340 million people in the USA. Actual estimates are 109,000 deaths. I guess Trump can't do math or he's a liar or both.
DeleteYes, both.
DeleteBased on his four casino bankruptcies, maybe he is just as stupid as he sounds.
DeleteMangione is still charged with murder, just not with terrorism.
DeleteRemember when Obama lied at a cop's funeral saying blacks were murdered by cops more than whites and then referred to numerical instead of proportional statistics?
ReplyDeleteHe probably doesn't understand the difference, which is the best explanation. The worst is that he does and is a degenerate liar instead of a degenerate idiot.
Checks notes, remember when Obama was ending his Presidency ten fucking years ago you racist POS?
DeleteNope, no recollection of that.
DeleteIf Republicans hadn't kept Obama from banning gun ownership, Charlie Kirk would be alive today.
DeleteIf that doesn't get the people to vote straight Republican ticket in the 2026 midterms, nothing will.
It's racist to point out that Obama is either stupid or a liar or both.
DeleteQuoting Charlie Kirk on social media will get you fired from your job.
DeleteBetter to call the bomb-throwing bigot, who was as popular and admired as anyone on the Right, a "saint" and keep collecting the paychecks.
It is racist to argue that innocent black people are not more at risk of being shot by cops than white people are. Now we have innocent immigrants being shot at and killed by masked, unidentified ICE agents who break their car windows in order to drag them out of their cars without knowing whether they are undocumented or subject to deportation, or even immigrants at all.
DeleteQuoting Charlie Kirk on social media will get you fired from your job.
DeleteMatt Taibbi and Bari Weiss are going to get right on it.
"Remember when Obama lied at a cop's funeral..."
DeleteTranscript of Obama's entire speech:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/full-transcript-president-obamas-speech-dallas-police-memorial/story?id=40521153
Remember when Trump lied multiple times every fucking day?
DeleteYou have it backwards.
DeleteBlack people, who account for 13 percent of the U.S. population, account for as much as 30 percent of those fatally shot by police.
That means they are twice as likely as white people to be shot and killed by police officers.
He knew that 1:25. It's how fascists roll.
Delete"Because the people of Dallas, people across the country, are suffering."
DeleteSeems more like a misinformed opinion than a lie.
He lied about fine people on both sides in the last presidential campaign, which really surprised me.
DeleteHow did Obama lie about fine people on both sides?
DeleteHe brought it up in a campaign speech.
DeleteYes, Obama was well none to be defending fucking Nazi assholes on the campaign trail, you dolt.
DeleteDemocrat mathematicians here have failed to note that blacks commit 51% of violent crimes despite their low proportional population. Some who failed to note are stupid, some are liars, some are both.
DeleteThat stat is incorrect. Blacks commit 29% and men commit 90%. 55% of black victims are white.
Delete3:19 Kirk said 55% of murders, being even more wrong than you. I wonder why he did this; can you come up with an explanation? Asking for a black friend.
DeleteOnly an Eastern European troll on a troll farm spells known as none.
Delete"Campos-Duffy, Jones and Corke may be completely sincere. But they belong on a major American news broadcast in much the way that they should be the starting backfield for the Green Bay Packers this week." But in fact they are not "on a major American news broadcast." What they are doing is definitely a broadcast, it may be major, but it has nothing to do with "news."
ReplyDeleteThe Turning Point USA organization used to mock college students for demanding "safe spaces" for discussion.
ReplyDeleteThat was before.
In Charlie Kirk's defense, he never expected his blood would refresh the Tree of Liberty. His having money, connections, and children was supposed to protect him from the reality he built.
DeleteI'm not referring so much to Kirk here, but to the elected public officials and various partisans who are demanding that their own safe spaces be protected by firing people they don't like.
DeleteQuaker,
DeleteThe Right are the snowflakes they warned us about.
Kirk's nonprofit was funded nearly entirely by three billionaire families paying them $92M/year. The Koch family being one of them has long tried to mold young men into reactionary libertarians by handing developing 13 y.o. boy/man Beavis and Butthead brains Ayan Rand books. Since kids don't read no more, we get this propaganda instead. (This message was paid for by dirty global Jew George Soros DemBots.)
DeleteThe Acheans are not coming over the wall.
ReplyDeleteNo one on the left shot Kirk, but perhaps it might make the right a little more temperate in its destruction of everything good our country has built.
Meanwhile, Trump has no idea who Robert Redford was.
Who was Robert Redford?
DeleteAh, I miss the good old days. Remember Christopher Hitchens’ epic beatdown of Jerry Falwell shortly after he died? On (gulp) Fox news?
ReplyDeleteMan, if you haven’t seen it, you should hie yourself to Youtube and check it out.
Leroy
Christopher Hitchens is a dirty foreign leftist atheist hater who should be silenced. (Notice I did not say the s word.)
DeleteWhat a fucked up suggestion. Most of us aren't the same as you and little faggot Tyler Robinson who find glee in the deaths of others especially the murders, because you're irredeemably broken, homosexual, and self loathing. Literally sucks to be you, doesn't it?
DeletePretty sure Christopher Hitches was silence a while back. Try to keep up 2:58.
DeleteIf the debate was after Falwell died, I would assume Falwell won. The you tube debates or roundtable discussions involving Hitchens and various clergy were entertaining but for my money Sam Harris vs Jordan Peterson were best. This is the problem with “debates” involving right wingers, be it Tucker Carlson in the old days or Charlie Kirk. There was always an asymmetry, Carlson choosing not so bright liberals and Kirk choosing students 10 years his junior (then editing out what he’d didn’t like). Of course he did poorly at Cambridge as would be expected.
DeleteAlso they don't do nuance. Short loud bursts. No allowance for disparate impacts of their proposals. Just I am right, you are wrong, I win. So much winning.
DeleteThey are trying very hard to shove the square peg into a round hole.
ReplyDeleteNo, Robinson is not transgender.
It is not known that his roommate is.
No, Robinson is not a left-winger. Whatever his shallow beliefs are, they tend more toward nihilism that exists in the online culture.
No, they cannot reasonably implicate the entire "left" -- but it won't stop them from trying. This is the administration's Reichstag fire moment and they are loath to let it go.
The square peg is the stupidity of Trump, the hammer is the Republican outrage machine, the round hole is normal Americans wondering who the fuck is Charlie Kirk?.
DeleteHe was a homo living with his male lover who identified as "transgender" and "furrie" because leftism is a cult of rejects who are made mentally ill by other mentally ill rejects and misfits.
DeleteWe aren't letting SHIT go.
That's a very brave anonymous, on-line comment I really respect you 3:10.
DeleteA conversation between Robinson and his roommate and the charging document shows Robinson referring to the roommate as "my love".
DeleteSure.
Delete"We aren't letting SHIT go." We know. It's how fascist BS rolls. Submit to your billionaire betters you bitch!
DeleteThe Right will cave to the deep State, just like Trump did when they told him he'd never get to fuck his daughter if he released the Epstein Files.
DeleteRobinson was living at home, not with a roommate, when he was arrested.
Delete
DeleteRoommate: “What????????????????? You’re joking, right????”
Robinson:
I am still ok my love, but am stuck in orem for a little while longer yet. Shouldn’t be long until I can come home, but I gotta grab my rifle still. To be honest I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age. I am sorry to involve you.
Roommate:
you weren’t the one who did it right????
Robinson:
I am, I’m sorry
Roommate:
I thought they caught the person?
Robinson:
no, they grabbed some crazy old dude, then interrogated someone in similar clothing. I had planned to grab my rifle from my drop point shortly after, but most of that side of town got locked down. Its quiet, almost enough to get out, but theres one vehicle lingering.
Roommate:
Why?
Robinson:
Why did I do it?
Roommate:
Yeah
Robinson:
I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can’t be negotiated out. If I am able to grab my rifle unseen, I will have left no evidence. Going to attempt to retrieve it again, hopefully they have moved on. I haven’t seen anything about them finding it.
…
Roommate:
How long have you been planning this?
Robinson:
a bit over a week I believe. I can get close to it but there is a squad car parked right by it. I think they already swept that spot, but I don’t wanna chance it
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Robinson:
I’m wishing I had circled back and grabbed it as soon as I got to my vehicle. … I’m worried what my old man would do if I didn’t bring back grandpas rifle … idek if it had a serial number, but it wouldn’t trace to me. I worry about prints I had to leave it in a bush where I changed outfits. didn’t have the ability or time to bring it with. … I might have to abandon it and hope they don’t find prints. how the fuck will I explain losing it to my old man. …
only thing I left was the rifle wrapped in a towel. …
remember how I was engraving bullets? The fuckin messages are mostly a big meme, if I see “notices bulge uwu” on fox new I might have a stroke alright im gonna have to leave it, that really fucking sucks. …
The picture that emerges bears little resemblance to the media version. Robinson, I am told, though quiet, was a well-liked person with a supportive family. The friend group who he interacted with on Discord, far from some kind of militia camp or Antifa bunker it’s been portrayed as, represented a range of different political views but mostly talked video games.
ReplyDeleteYesterday, FBI Director Kash Patel said in an interview that Robinson “subscribed to left-wing ideology,” citing his family’s remarks to investigators. But those close to Robinson say there was a lot his family didn’t know about him.
https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/exclusive-leaked-messages-from-charlie
Silly facts won't get in the way of our Project 2025 manufactured Reichstag Fire. Remember a lot of the same evil pukes were in on Project for a New American Century. Those creeps got us into large scale decades long wars all based on their pumping up 911 bullshit - as they pre-planned. God it never ends with these creeps.
DeleteIf "federal agents" don't recognize or understand gamer references, they are incompetent.
DeleteI read the entire article. It appears that these "childhood friends" did not know Robinson very well and he was not "open" as claimed. Oddly, the name of Robinson's trans friend (Lance) was different here than in other articles I've read, and not a male/female difference.
DeleteThere was nothing liberal about this friend group at all.
This supports the idea that Robinson may have been performing for a new peer group and seeking to win admiration from them by engaging in an act that they would approve. That means he may have participated in other groups under different user names and accounts than those discovered and reproduced here. I don't believe that this kind of innocuous cover answers any questions about the real Robinson and his motives.
DeleteThis supports the idea that 5:19 is making stuff up in their pointy little head.
DeleteThe killing was well planned and executed. No one does that without a motive. You hypothesize various motives and then use evidence to figure out which are plausible given the facts in hand. Speculation is happening because Robinson has not supplied any motive. He is not talking.
DeleteRobinson’s motive was “I had enough of his hating.”
Delete“Green Back Packers” is Bob’s best typo ever.
ReplyDeleteLol. could be green-back [fudge] packers . . . or green backpackers. either one is better than Green Bay Packers
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