FRIDAY, DECEMBER 5, 2025
So did quite a few others: As we've noted in recent weeks, Lawrence O'Donnell has been the must-see cable news anchor of the past month or so.
Other hosts at MSNBC have basically gone through the mandated topics, performing critiques by rote. O'Donnell has seemed to take President Trump's deteriorating conduct much more personally in these recent weeks.
You wouldn't normally recommend that approach. In our view, the approach has worked quite well for O'Donnell of late.
Beyond that, O'Donnell has now started his annual promotional drive for his "Kid in Need of Desks" (KIND) project. The brilliant project arranges for school kids in the African nation of Malawi to have the chance, for the first time in their lives, to sit at a desk, not on the ground, as they pursue their dreams for the future in their nation's schools.
We regard Kid in Need of Desks as the most signicant use of time any cable news host has ever accomplished. The videotapes of O'Donnell's interactions with the deeply grateful young people of Malawi is a constant lesson in the astounding potential greatness of the human spirit.
That said:
LOD has long had a bit of an anger problem. Dating at least to 2004, it got him suspended from his posts at NBC cable at several times down through the years.
He also has an extreme relationship to the concept of "lying." For O'Donnell, every misstatement is a lie. We've never seen a person that smart who had so much trouble with that pair of basic concepts.
Last night, O'Donnell went off about the investigation of the events of September 2. His presentation started with this declaration, then went downhill from there:
O'DONNELL (12/4/25): First, they lie.
That's what has happened in the American military after every war crime committed by the American military.
First, they lie. Somewhere in the chain of command, they lie.
That is what Donald Trump's incompetent Defense Secretary, Pete Hegseth, did when first confronted with the Washington Post's breaking news report of a second missile strike on a small boat that had already been destroyed, and burst into flames, after the first missile strike.
The Washington Post reported that the second missile strike killed two people clinging to the wreckage, which would be a war crime in a war, and is murder outside of war.
There is no war in the Caribbean. There is no "fog of war" there. So Pete Hegseth lied and said that everything in the Washington Post article was "the fake news delivering more fabricated, inflammatory and derogatory reporting."
That was Pete Hegseth's first lie about this story, as soon as it came out.
That's the way O'Donnell started. Sadly, we have to say no.
Sadly, no! Simply put, Hegseth didn't lie and say that everything in the Washington Post article was "the fake news delivering more fabricated, inflammatory and derogatory reporting."
Simply put, that didn't happen. Whatever you may think of Hegseth, he simply didn't say that.
Also, Hegseth's later remark about "the fog of war" was perfectly easy to parse, and it seems that what he said on that occasion is now being corroborated.
It's possible that Hegseth committed a war crime on September 2 (or possibly not), though there will never be a consensus. But he actually didn't say what O'Donnell says he said.
Lost in the fog of the chase, O'Donnell was grossly misdescribing what his target said about "the fog of war." A boatload of prejudgment was floating about as O'Donnell made that presentation—and as he continued, he made a series of inexcusable misstatements concerning the current investigation of this high-profile event.
In fairness, O'Donnell wasn't the only Blue American politician or journalist engaged in what we've described as "the fog of the chase." In this instance, the chase has been directed at the highly erratic Hegseth, and it's been quite widespread.
For the record, we've seen this sort of group stampede being conducted before. As O'Donnell pursued the chase of Hegseth, he engaged in flagrant embellishment of elementary facts, but also in the practice we'd describe as "creative paraphrase."
In truth, we humans aren't built for this line of work. We aren't built for the task of providing respectable journalism at a time of tribal war.
The explanation is this:
We humans all have a lizard brain. As everyone actually knows, that lizard brain is a basic part of our basic human wiring.
At times of tribal war, our lizard brains instruct us to believe the statements which support our tribal preconceptions. As individuals, our ability to function as the ballyhooed "rational animal" is determined by the extent to which we remain in thrall to our lizard brain.
Did Pete Hegseth commit a war crime in connection with the events of September 2? As far as we know, it's entirely possible that he did, though there will never be anything like a unanimous judgment across tribal lines on that point.
That said:
Did Hegseth lie and say that everything in the Washington Post article was "the fake news delivering more fabricated, inflammatory and derogatory reporting?"
Was that his first lie about this story, as soon as it came out?
(For the source which Lawrence flashed on the screen, you can just click here.)
In fact, Hegseth made no such statement about that initial report. But as O'Donnell's angry presentation wound on, he lost himself in the fog of the chase, especially with respect to Hegseth's later reference to "the fog of war."
O'Donnell opened with one wild misstatement, then made several others. In one instance, he played tape of Rep. Adam Smith (D-Wash.), appearing on last night's All In.
At least as O'Donnell framed his presentation, Rep. Smith seemed to have no idea what Hegseth was talking about when he spoke of "the fog of war." Creatures like us aren't built for this kind of work. We've proven that point many times.
Three nights have now passed since President Trump launched his two-day poisonous attack on the human "garbage" he says he's spotted in Minnesota. O'Donnell hasn't said a word about that "shocking" conduct as these nights have flown by.
This morning, the Morning Joe gang also took a third straight pass on that poisonous conduct. They piddled their way through some dog-eared topics, ran in fear from that.
Joe Scarborough embarrassed himself the past two days as he engaged in the fog of the chase. This morning, he was nowhere to be seen.
With Scarborough's bluster and embellishments gone, Mika Brzezinski actually staged a calmer, smarter presentation about the events of September 2. But for the third straight day, there was no mention—none at all!—of the poisonous attacks the president launched, two days in a row, about all the Somali "garbage" in the aforementioned state.
The woods are lovely, dark and deep. That said, our Blue elites don't know how to talk about the type of "illness" with which the president is quite possibly afflicted.
As for us in the rank and file, we weren't up to the task of pushing back when chases of the current type were being directed at our own tribal leaders.
Al Gore said he invented the Internet? We sucked our thumbs for two solid years as these millionaire corporate toys conducted that form of the chase.
Rep. Omar has written a guest essay in today's New York Times. As our stars have conducted their chase after Hegseth, they've taken an astonishing pass on two days of undisguised poison.
This afternoon, we'll discuss Rep. Omar's essay. But let the word go forth to the nations—we Blues aren't up to the challenge of making accurate statements at a time of tribal war. Hegseth may have committed a crime—but no, he didn't say that.
Kids in Need of Desks is a brilliant use of cable news time. Malawi's kids are clearly deeply grateful to Lawrence. We Blues should be thanking him too.
This afternoon: Rep. Omar speaks
Also this: Go ahead and take a look. This is superlative work.
"We regard Kid in Need of Desks as the most signicant use of time any cable news host has ever accomplished."
ReplyDeleteProviding this excerpt so that someone can point out what a racist remark this is by Bob.
It is a deeply stupid remark. Calling this the most significant act is ridiculous when there are kids dying of starvation, which must be more important than sitting on the ground. Somerby is being sarcastic again but his trolls don't get it.
DeleteClearly the most important act is denying them USAID so they can starve to death and then they don't need those desks. Win-win!!!
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ReplyDelete"ILLNESS: O'Donnell got lost in "the fog of the chase!""
Who cares about that idiot Soros-monkey. No one. You, Bob, must be the only one watching his endless clowning.
You okay?
DeleteMao is a sick fuck.
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ReplyDelete"Al Gore said he invented the Internet?"
Yes, he did say that. I "took the initiative in creating the internet" he stupidly bragged. And so he definitely deserved all the mockery that followed.
"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system."
DeleteGore’s statement was true. Even Newt Gingrich, who had served on the same committee, acknowledged it.
DeleteWas Gore’s word “THE” true?
DeleteClaiming that he took THE initiative in creating the Internet was a way of claiming a large amount of credit for the internet. IIRC the internet grew out of DARPA net. Many people must have made significant contributions, particularly techies who we never heard of.
Did Gore over exaggerate the importance of what he did? I suspect that he did.
Tim Walz and the Somalis created the internet. Aimee Bock and Al Gore tried to jinx them.
DeleteYou aren't 1/10th as witty as you think you are. Somalis are victims of abuse by Trump, the targets of persecution in a country they inhabit legally and in community with others, yet Cecelia thinks they are the new "Polish joke" subjects to mocked, because Dear Leader singled them out for abuse. Ha ha ha you are so hilarious Cecelia, with your lack of empathy and coarse lack of subtlety. Let's all laugh at you and see how you like it!
DeleteAl Gore enjoyed his presidential race so much that he left politics.
DeleteThe new technology needed a legislative framework that the Government provided. A lot of it initiated by Gore. Why is that so hard for moron cultists to grasp?
DeleteAfter every hateful bigoted comment Cecelia celebrates by stroking one out.
DeleteAnonymouse 12:01pm, on the contrary, YOU are the joke. It’s far more ridiculous to call this scam the operation of “one white woman” (as said by an anonymouse) than to say that Biden let a lot of jerks into the U.S., some of them from countries that truly are lawless shitholes. Your position would be far more tenable if you were making an argument as to wanting to help Somalia and the U.S. Somalis than you merely trying to blister Bob and anyone else who doesn’t line up.
DeleteYou a nasty piece of work CC. How all that hate fit in your little brain?
DeleteAnonymouse 12:10pm says as she raises up the sheet and lights up a cigarette.
DeleteAnonymouse 12:18pm, anonymices use the word “hater” for anyone who isn’t useful to them.
DeleteIt is hard for Trump cultists to grasp because they voted for a clown who, instead of embracing change, denies science and advocates coal mining.
DeleteAnonymouse 12:23pm, it’s not hard to grasp your deflection.
DeleteBob hid the fact that the fraud originated with and was implemented by a white Christian woman, and that the Somalis (many of whom are Trump supporters as it turns out) were largely victims.
DeleteBob is a racist. Seethe and cope.
DeleteBob is a Democrat. Of course he's a racist, they all are.
Anonymouse 12:49, how do you know she was Christian?
DeleteThe slaveholders' party.
Delete"Anonymouse 12:49, how do you know she was Christian?"
DeleteWe go to the same church, that's how.
What church is that?
DeleteChristian. Who the hell knows, they all look the same to me.
DeleteAnonymouse 1:05pm, don’t as her stuff like that. How many lies do you want to get from white Christian church goers like anonymouse 12:54pm.
DeleteMost White people in America are Christians. Aimee Bock was raised in a Christian family and worked with many Christian organizations and was highlighted by one of the largest Christian charities for being an “influential Christian leader”.
Delete'Claiming that he took THE initiative in creating the Internet was a way of claiming a large amount of credit for the internet."
DeleteBut DiC, words don't matter, do they?
Permanently drunk Comma La would've beat Al Gore.
DeleteOh, never mind Comma, Dementia Joe would've beat Al Gore as easily as he beat Medicare.
She worked with Christians and someone said she was a Christian. Therefore she’s a Christian.
DeleteAI “The first public signs of a major problem in the state's [Minnesota] social services system came in 2022, when federal prosecutors began charging defendants in connection to the program aimed at feeding hungry children [2]. However, the full extent of the fraud, including additional schemes targeting housing stabilization and autism therapy programs, became clearer with subsequent charges and investigations in August and September 2025 [2] [3].
DeleteMore: and it’s crazy…
“ It is not definitively known whether Kamala Harris was aware of the full extent of the Somali fraud scandal in Minnesota when she chose Governor Tim Walz as her running mate in August 2024 [1] [2] [3]. However, there are indications that information regarding the fraud was available and that some individuals attempted to bring it to her attention.
A group identifying themselves as Minnesota Department of Human Service Employees claims to have written to Kamala Harris and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) multiple times, "warning them" about Governor Walz's "incompetence, fraud scandals and retaliation" [3]. These warnings were reportedly made through public tweets, with one post in September 2024 directly replying to Harris's account, stating that Walz had "caused incredible harm to our state & agencies, [and] retaliated against whistleblowers against fraud"
But as it turns out those tweets were not made by that department, this has been debunked, the department released a statement about it.
DeleteFurthermore, frauds like that have occurred in many states (mostly by White Christians), Gov Walz was active in helping prosecute the case, and other cases of fraud in the state.
With a Republican governor, the fraud would have likely been ignored, that, or a Republican governor would have demanded a share of the profits.
You’re so desperate for win, you keep shooting yourself in the foot.
Aimee Bock is a known Christian, just like most Americans. Not sure why you’re struggling with this, it’s wild.
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DeleteDoes Gore deserve any credit for the creation of today's internet? Here's what two of the people who actually invented the internet wrote on the question:
Al Gore and the Internet
By Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf
Al Gore was the first political leader to recognize the importance of the Internet and to promote and support its development.
No one person or even small group of persons exclusively "invented" the Internet. It is the result of many years of ongoing collaboration among people in government and the university community. But as the two people who designed the basic architecture and the core protocols that make the Internet work, we would like to acknowledge VP Gore's contributions as a Congressman, Senator and as Vice President. No other elected official, to our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of time.
Last year the Vice President made a straightforward statement on his role. He said: "During my service in the United States Congress I took the initiative in creating the Internet." We don't think, as some people have argued, that Gore intended to claim he "invented" the Internet. Moreover, there is no question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore's initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving Internet. The fact of the matter is that Gore was talking about and promoting the Internet long before most people were listening. We feel it is timely to offer our perspective.
So you’re just assuming she’s Christian.
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DeletePompous lying asshole, is what Al Gore is. Making money off scaring gullible people with horror climate stories.
The climate is not changing! Carbon dioxide does not absorb infrared light!
DeleteI believe in climate change, but I make exceptions when Red State Governors beg Daddy Federal Government to bail them out because of bad weather.
DeleteFuck those pieces of shit, amirite?
The Jan 6 pipebomber was a Trump supporting election denier.
ReplyDeleteEvery misstatement made by a right wing public official is a lie because it is their job to get things straight and not make misstatements. When something false is announced by these people, it is on purpose in order to mislead the public. It is an abuse of their office, whatever it is. First you get the facts, then you tell the people. You don't spout off the top of your head (as Trump routinely does) and the take the time and care to make sure you are telling the truth.
ReplyDeleteTrump's people don't do that because they have learned from Trump himself that lies are as good as the truth, especially when they are self-serving. O'Donnell is right to call them out on this stuff.
Somerby thinks every con man deserves the benefit of the doubt. That is a huge mistake. But on the other hand, Somerby keeps complaining that the press isn't doing its job. Here is O'Donnell doing it right and Somerby complains about that. This makes the very fine line that journalists must walk even narrower because the press cannot call out lies but also cannot let people get away with their misstatements either. What is a guy like O'Donnell to do when there is no pleasing Somerby?
Anonymouse 11:59am, good lord, you’re an idiot. The standard that a mistake by any official is automatically a lie because officials have all truth at their disposal, is dumber than dirt and will obviously not apply to YOUR officials, including Gov Walz.
DeleteYou mean the governor that helped catch and prosecute the fraudster Aimee Bock in the Feeding Our Future case, and the governor that has dramatically reduced Medicare provider fraud - frauds that are attempted because the state is well run and has a high financial rating? Notably all this fraud is perpetrated by providers, not beneficiaries.
DeleteAnonymouse 1:00pm, the revelation of the scandal came about via federal audits. The feds got involved and what choice did Walz have then?
DeleteYes because we always address issues we do not know about. Strong argument as always.
DeleteCC says one thing at 12:53; and the opposite at 1:25. Conservative logic at work.
DeleteAnonymouse 1:36pm, how is that? I didn’t call Walz a liar, I pointed out that when the feds came to him with the news, he had no choice but to help them.
DeleteAll the fraud in the country is penny ante stuff relative to the billions the Trump Crime Family is corruptly raking in.
DeleteA popular Republican mantra: Rules for thee but not for me.
Another one: Always ignore asymmetry.
Anonymouse 1:50pm, asymmetry? You’ve pointed the finger at everyone, but the people who were asleep at the wheel ( me being generous…) and the people collecting the money. You’ve even made a clown-god of Walz who knew this stuff was going down and could have crippled Comma-La’s Admin from jump, DESPITE media any attempts to protect her.
DeleteThis case was already being prosecuted before Harris ran - Aimee Bock was indicted in 2023. You’re such a dope.
DeleteAnonymouse 2:17pm, it was being investigated by the feds in 2021 and people were being charged in 2022.
DeleteFFS. The only reason Drumpf (thanks CC) nominated the POS (besides being a women puncher) was his disgusting proselytizing on Fox weekends for the pardon of jailed mercenary war criminals. Never forget the original sin. It leads to everything that follows. Once a disgusting POS, always a disgusting POS.
ReplyDeleteAnonymouse 12:08pm, you’re welcome, and you were saying what when Bob was spending a year on blistering Pete Hegseth of F&F and the Trump aligned FNC org?
DeleteBob omits the original sin today as does all media. Important to constantly point out the base immorality of these dimbots.
DeleteAnonymouse 12:40pm, while you’re pointing your finger, look in a mirror.
DeleteHegseth raped a woman.
DeleteYMMV but that seems pretty gross, and he’s hardly alone in this admin filled with sexual predators and their defenders.
Even Hegseth’s own mom called him out for being a disgusting sexual predator.
Anonymouse 12:52pm, it’s that sexist culture thing that Bob has mentioned endlessly via Gutfeld and company. Oh, sorry, you don’t give a crap about that stuff.
DeleteWhen Republicans attack Dems it’s often about “what was meant” “what was implied” bla bla bla but when it comes to defending their heroes suddenly they become excessively literal and take everything at face value. Too rich!
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DeleteAnonymouse 1:14pm, are you saying this in order to contrast the specific behavior/actions/words that Bob relaid over the course of almost two years as anonymices denounced his concern?
DeleteBob’s writing is slick and slippery, making it obvious he is pushing an agenda he does not want to be too open about. The trolls pretend to read Bob literally, but they know that’s a fool’s errand; it’s all just a game.
DeleteAnonymouse 1:46pm, there is nothing that is slippery as to Bob’s agenda. He is/was completely Frank as to the culture at Fox News and its friendliness with PresTrump. You are absurd.
DeletePretending that it’s news that Fox News is a propaganda wing of the Republican Party is wild. Sorry, you are being absurd, per usual.
DeleteAnonymouse 2:03pm, this reply is more indication of how clueless you are. Somerby linked a whole culture of sexism and over-the-top bravado to FNC and to their pal Trump and you’re too boneheaded an operative to keep your mouth shut now as to how you had argued that none of it mattered.
DeleteAnd you are a happy FNC viewer and voted for the misogyny and sexism, Cecelia.
DeleteHegseth raped an adult, and not just children?
DeleteWhat a RINO he turned out to be.
"Simply put, that didn't happen. Whatever you may think of Hegseth, he simply didn't say that."
ReplyDeleteToday's report is puzzling. Hegseth posted on X (and Our Genial Host provided a link!) that begins thusly:
"As usual, the fake news is delivering more fabricated, inflammatory, and derogatory reporting to discredit our incredible warriors fighting to protect the homeland."
Hegseth's social media post Ford not directly mention the EaPo:s reporting on the September boat strike. His post was made in response to questions about those articles.
Our Host tells us repeatedly that O'Donnell is full of wet socks. But Hegseth called out "the fake news" in a specific context. I'm clearly too dumb to parde all this correctly.
Sorry. Phone typing is not something olds like me do well.
DeleteDeath is one of the scariest aspects of life and the older we get the closer it comes.
DeleteMaybe the fear of death is impacting Somerby’s thinking. How else to explain his nonsensical post today, denying something that is in fact easily verified to have occurred?
QiB - I think what Somerby is saying is that Hegseth never said "everything" in the WaPo story is false.
DeleteAnd I think his point is that making false, inaccurate statements such as this invites disputes about what was said, thereby distracting from the points that liberals wish to make. It's one of the ways we "earn our way out."
DeleteI am a little unclear as well, insofar as what Bob finds inaccurate in O'Donnell's presentation.
DeleteGeorge: That's more than a little nitpicky on Bob's part. Hegseth wasn't all that precise in regards to what his was calling "fake news". He took a broad swipe at the Post's report calling it fake news. It's not like Hegseth was being nuanced; it's the usual go-to formulation for this administration. Such "rebuttals" convey no accurate information. So, what is O'Donnell supposed to analyze and be precise about?
DeleteIt seems staight forward to me: O'Donnell said that Hegseth said that "everything" in the WaPo story was false. But Hegseth didn't say that everything in the story was false.
DeleteIlya at 4:20. I don't disagree with you. I think O'Donnell was a little sloppy with his language, and I think Somerby's point (if I understand it) is that such sloppiness engenders these kinds of disputes - the dispute we're having right now - which distracts from the point O'Donnell is trying to make.
DeleteAnd what could O'Donnell have done? He could have made a statement was true. It's not always easy to make true statements (especially when speaking) when dealing with the slippery statements of demagogues, but he's a professional.
DeleteSince you claim that hegseth didn’t say “everything” was false, I’m sure, DG, you can tell us which “specific” parts he was calling false, vs the other parts that he wasn’t.
DeleteMissing the point. Hegseth didn't say specific parts were false. He didn't say everything was false. Nuance is a bitch.
DeleteHe just lets us guess which parts are true? He declared it fake news. Your nuance is ridiculous.
DeleteI’m not defending Hegseth, a despicable blowhard.
DeleteCecelia is very beautiful, with a shapely head.
ReplyDeleteIt's not polite to talk about Ceces mangled unit.
DeleteAnonymouse 1:44pm, and tangled.
DeleteI know CC is a sport so she laughs off all the misogyny directed her way, but I'll state (1) that it offends me and (2) that the silence of the lambs around here who bleat about sexism in everything they see exposes their utter hypocrisy. I mean, I have yet to see a 2,000-word comment about this heinous conduct.
DeleteThey’re political operatives, they’re not the regular liberal Democratic man or woman on the street or neighbor next door. The thing that surprised me about these operatives was that I thought operatives were supposed to be smart.
DeleteCecelia is a foreign troll or bot here to disrupt discussion. Your sympathy is misplaced.
DeleteStill, her head is shapely.
Delete5:51 - I did not offer sympathy to CC; I issued condemnations of 1:44 and of those "feminists" here who are quick to see sexism everywhere except when it is directed at a conservative woman. Their partisanship overrides their professed beliefs.
DeleteHow about the more obvious tactic of saying that someone is disrupting discussion by engaging in discussion? Consider the anonymouse claim that someone is being disruptive because they’re countering THEM…As though there’s a gun pointed at anonymices’ heads and they are forced to respond. THAT ridiculous bullshite should tell you all need to know.
DeleteThis was a good blog before Cecelia disrupted it.
DeleteAnonymouse 9:34pm, no, anonymices think that Bob’s blog is a great blog until Bob disrupts Bob’s blog by blogging,
DeleteDavid is brilliant, but he doesn’t understand that DARPA’s budget comes from the US Congress, where Al Gore and Newt Gingrich were on the relevant committee.
ReplyDeleteEvery time Trump is on camera of late, he is moving gingerly, seems to be in discomfort, is slurring his words, speaking slowly as if it’s a struggle, eyes droopy, rambling incoherently, drifting off to sleep.
ReplyDeleteIs Trump being drugged/poisoned by an insider that might benefit from accelerating Trump’s voyage to that lake of fire?
Asking for a friend.
Almost certainly, yes.
DeleteSomerby is infamous at this point for his denial of racism, sexism, and xenophobia. It’s now what he is most known for, and this is driving his fanboy trolls nuts, even though they completely agree with his racism, sexism, and xenophobia.
ReplyDeleteObserving them twist themselves into pretzels to defend Somerby, is…..well it’s not funny, no, not at all, no way are we laughing at them, not a chance, not even a snicker, nope.
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Bwahahahahahahahaha!
Oh yeah. Aimee Bock coerced 52 (and counting) Somalis into committing wire fraud, money laundering and bribery. She is one powerful, coercive, colonizing white woman working her indomitable will on those innocent, defenseless third worlders.
DeleteTeehee.
"Everyone in America seemed to be afraid and hurting and angry, starving for a fight they could win. And more than that even, they seemed certain their natural state was to be happy, contented, and rich. The genesis of everyone’s pain had to be external, such was their certainty. And so legislators legislated, building border walls, barring citizens of there from entering here. “The pain we feel comes from them, not ourselves,” said the banners, and people cheered, certain of all the certainty. But the next day they’d wake up and find that what had hurt in them still hurt."
DeleteMartyr! Kaveh Akbar
Aimee Bock indeed defrauded Somalis, most of whom had little to no awareness about what was going on, but still were advised to plead guilty to avoid worse consequences - this is a well known major flaw in our justice system.
DeleteIn this case most of the Somalis were victims. There were a few Somalis that knew it was fraud - funnily enough they also happen to be Trump supporters.
The people that are laughing the most are Trump and his cronies, laughing all the way to the bank as they divide us via their racism, which makes us easy marks for their cons.
1:26 is openly struggling with the cognitive dissonance of how they view themselves vs being conned, so they muster up the courage to pretend that they are just laughing it off, but in reality they’re just implicating themselves as rubes.
Anonymouse 1:42pm, everybody knew, including the feds, Walz, government employees writing letters to VP Harris… everyone but the Somalis who were collecting the checks.
DeleteTotally. I've been conned by the facts. You know who else got conned by the facts? The juries in all the cases where those 52 (and counting) Somalis got convicted. Somerby fanboys, the whole lot of 'em.
DeleteBut those juries, as you so insightfully put it, were no doubt 'openly struggling with the cognitive dissonance of how they view themselves vs. being conned'.
Talk about a lot of blather.
And 1:30, I appreciate the quote, but at some point you have to step in and defend basic logic or else the inmates have taken over the asylum.
Most of those cases were pled, only a few went to trial.
DeleteYou’re so smug in thinking you’re right , all while being completely wrong.
In reality the bulk of the money went to the ringleader, Aimee Bock - a white Christian woman. For the most part, the Somalis were the victims.
And your timeline is wrong, it was Walz’s MDE that became aware of the fraud and brought it to the feds, and then Biden’s admin prosecuted the case.
"And your timeline is wrong, it was Walz’s MDE that became aware of the fraud and brought it to the feds, and then Biden’s admin prosecuted the case."
DeleteOnce again, no idea what you're trying to say. I've only referenced the convictions; haven't provided any timeline in relation to them.
But it does seem like you're walking back a little from the position someone who's either you or sounds a lot like you advanced yesterday, to wit: "Somerby is a racist."
Is he still a racist for excerpting an accurate quote from the NYT?
AI: “Initial warnings about potential fraud were raised by whistleblowers within Minnesota's Department of Human Services (DHS) as early as November 2020, who claimed to have alerted Governor Tim Walz's administration about suspicious activities related to the nonprofit Feeding Our Future.[1] [3] [4] These whistleblowers alleged that their concerns were met with retaliation, including monitoring, threats, and repression, rather than action.[1] [3] [4] The Office of the Legislative Auditor in a June 2024 audit also found that the Minnesota Department of Education (MDE) had "created opportunities for fraud" and maintained "inadequate oversight" during the period of the alleged fraud.[1] The MDE itself had drawn attention to "Feeding Our Future" in 2021, noting irregularities, serious deficiencies, and incomplete audits.[5]”
DeleteHow is it that no one seems to have alerted Comma-La about this? It’s just inexplicable. This should have every Democrat clamoring for someone’s head.
DeleteBREAKING: Congratulations to Dear Leader President Donald J. Trump, winner of the inaugural FIFA Peace Prize!
ReplyDeletehttps://apnews.com/article/trump-world-cup-fifa-peace-prize-e14f95b8adaa197c869cad407b6ef604
Finally, Dear Leader receives the recognition he has earned!
Accepting the award on behalf of Mr. Trump will be Juan Orlando Hernandez.
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ReplyDeleteChristian women are evil. All of them need to be deported to Somalia. Those that convert to Islam, may stay.
Discuss.
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ReplyDeletePraise for Barack Obama: President Obama once said that if your opponents bring a (rhetorical) knife to a fight, you should bring a gun.
ReplyDeleteTrump's current opponents say if your opponents bring a knife to a fight, you should fight unarmed. More precisely, they say you shouldn't chose the weapons needed for your side to prevail; you should choose your weapons based on legalities and legal technicalities. I'll go with Obama.
More precisely, Russia and criminal gangs act without compunction. They invade countries, they kill people at will, they overthrow governments etc. It may feel good to be virtuous, but too much virtue might lead to a Western Hemisphere controlled by Russia and by criminal cartels.