MONDAY: Twenty-five years and two days later...

MONDAY, DECEMBER 15, 2025

...look where it has us now: President Trump has blamed Rob Reiner for Rob Reiner's brutal death.

In our view, Colby Hall's reaction to this is well worth considering. But for today, we return to an event which was, as of Saturday, exactly 25 years old.

We were skillfully napping, with C-Span strategically on, when we heard a voice orating in the manner shown below. But why was C-Span running that?

Groggily, we posed that question. Within the oration C-Span ran, we include a final ironic remark:

As heard on C-Span this Saturday: 
I've seen America in this campaign, and I like what I see. It's worth fighting for, and that's a fight I'll never stop. As for the battle that ends tonight, I do believe, as my father once said, that "No matter how hard the loss, defeat might serve as well as victory to shape the soul and let the glory out."

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Now the political struggle is over and we turn again to the unending struggle for the common good of all Americans and for those multitudes around the world who look to us for leadership in the cause of freedom.

In the words of our great hymn, "America, America": "Let us crown thy good with brotherhood, from sea to shining sea."

And now, my friends, in a phrase I once addressed to others, it's time for me to go.

Thank you, and good night, and God bless America.

Say what? "Defeat might serve as well as victory to let the glory out?" But also, the initial bit of irony:

"It's time for me to go?"

Plainly, the words were those of Candidate Gore, in his December 2000 concession speech, bringing Campaign 2000 to its fateful end. And sure enough:

It had been 25 years, to the day, since that concession came. It came on December 13, 2000, a day we remember fairly well.

As happenstance happened to have it, we ended up spending some time with the former candidatealong with several other college friendson that very night. We did an early show at the D.C. Improv, then hurried over, in response to a mid-afternoon telephone call, to a prescheduled, large-scale Christmas reception at the vice president's residence.

We shared a joke with the former candidate when that group of college friends huddled for a stretch of time in a private salon. Through the miracle of trans-Atlantic telephone communication, he then shared the joke with President Clinton, who was flying home from Europe and had given him a call. 

One week later, in a receiving line at another massive Christmas reception, President Clinton stopped the proceedings and repeated the joke for all to hear as we paraded by with the friend who had insisted that we go through the receiving line.

"There's a great deal of truth to that joke," President Clinton convincingly saidand sure enough! The president included the joke in his lengthy memoir, My Life, with its language slightly altered

And that's not all! Roger Simon's history of that campaign, Divided We Stand: How Al Gore Beat George Bush and Lost the Presidency, ends with an anecdote from Air Force 1 on that very night:

In Simon's book, President Clinton emerges from his private quarters on Air Force 1 and repeats the joke to the travelling press. It was the shot heard round the world!

That joke rang a bell for Clinton and for Gore. To enjoy the joke as President Clinton memorialized it, you can turn to page 934 of My Life (chapter 55) and see how it works for you!

(In that book, President Clinton had words for the Supreme Court decision which, delivered that very day, may have signaled the start of the modern era. "It was an appalling decision," he writes, correctly or otherwise, right there on page 933. "Bush v. Gore will go down in history as one of the worst decisions the Supreme Court ever made...")

We'll let you judge that for yourselves. President Clinton went to law school. We ourselves never did.

At any rate, it had been exactly 25 years since that small group of college friends gathered with Brother Gore on that fateful night. For the record:

At the start of his concession speech, he had offered another self-deprecating bit of irony. As you can see by consulting this link, this is what he said:

Al Gore 2000 Presidential Concession Speech
delivered 13 December 2000

Good evening.

Just moments ago, I spoke with George W. Bush and congratulated him on becoming the 43rd president of the United States. And I promised him that I wouldn't call him back this time.

I offered to meet with him as soon as possible so that we can start to heal the divisions of the campaign and the contest through which we've just passed.

Maybe you remember the reference there. Also, maybe you don't.

Chris Matthews had a hard time reacting to the graciousness of that concession speech. To this day, some 25 years and two days later, no one has ever asked Chris (a very bright person) to explain his bizarre behavior during that campaign, when he turned on a dime and joined his colleagues in twenty solid months of what never came to be known as "The War Against Gore."

No one has ever asked Chris to explain why he said and did the things he said and did. Also, no one ever will! Admittedly brilliant as we all are, those of us in Blue America have never quite come to understand the way our high-end Blue journalists work, including the way they're trying to whistle past the graveyard with respect to the current president, the one in the White House right now.

In some quarters, Candidate Gore was criticized for conceding that day. Was he supposed to form an army and march on the Supreme Court building? Admittedly brilliant though we Blues are, no one ever quite explained.

At any rate, you see an older culture at work in that concession speech. The candidate who got more votes was willing to say that he had lost, given the rules of the game Today, the candidate who got fewer votes five years ago is still insisting he won!

We especially recall two surprising things the feller said that night. Since we never discuss our conversations with former presidential candidates, those remarks have never gone into anyone's book.

At any rate, the two main fellers swapped a joke over the trans-Atlantic phone that night. Full disclosure:

Brother Gore always had a developed sense of the ironic and the absurd.

He went on to star in an Oscar-winning documentary and to win a Nobel peace prize. Today, a little mutt who calls climate change "a major hoax" is driving the engine at the Fox News Channel, and none of the mutts who gather the dollars from Blue America's corporate orgs are willing to say a single word about that assault on "our democracy."

You can read the full concession speech here. You can watch the videotape simply by clicking this.

As for letting the glory out, here is the candidate's funeral oration when his father, Senator Albert Gore Sr., died in 1998. We read through it again this weekend. We were especially struck by the two highlighted points:

REMARKS BY THE VICE PRESIDENT AT THE FUNERAL OF HIS FATHER, FORMER SENATOR ALBERT GORE, SR.

President and Mrs. Clinton; so many honored guests from our nation and our state. The Lord gave and the Lord hath taken away. Blessed be the name of the Lord.

My father was the greatest man I ever knew in my life. Most of you know him for his public service and it could be said of him, in the words of Paul, that this man walked worthy of the vocation wherewith he was called.

[...]

Of all the lessons he taught me as a father, perhaps the most powerful was the way he loved my mother. He respected her as an equal, if not more. He was proud of her. But it went way beyond that...

"Perhaps the most powerful was the way he loved my mother?" Young men taught such lessons are extremely fortunate. 

(That same "cable news" star overtly insults women, night after night, on the Fox News Channel. At this point, we Blues aren't even willing to pretend that we object or care about such poison as that.)

The War Against Gore was the next campaign derived from the pointless anger directed at President Clinton. Our major journalists acted in concert for years. Our major historians know what happened, but they damn straight aren't going to tell.

With respect to the younger Gore, we were together on Cape Cod, with a pair of lady friends, when we discovered a wonderful new TV show in June 1969the new syndicated TV program, Hee Haw! Minnie Pearl was right there on TV! Feller knew all about her.

In response, they said he grew up in a fancy hotel, even at the Ritz! They kept it up for two straight years. On Saturday, we turned to the analysts and barked the command:

Just look where it has us now!

For extra credit only: In his concession speech, feller borrowed from Lincoln's second inaugural!  

We wouldn't have noticed that at the time. We did notice it now!


56 comments:

  1. They don't have a 2nd Amendment where Somerby lives?

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  2. "President Trump has blamed Rob Reiner for Rob Reiner's brutal death."

    Well, Bob, if indeed it was his kid who murdered him, surely he (probably) deserves a great deal of blame, no?

    Or, did you type that sentence just to caress your TDS, and you don't care about the Reiners' murder at all? In that case, never mind and carry on, by all means.

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    1. Pssst. Trumptard. It's a kind of joke called irony. It doesn't make sense that someone would cause their own "brutal death."

      But we are all impressed by your moral outrage at Bob expressing insufficient 'caring' about Reiner's death.

      You're a sensitve snowflake, trumptard. We get that. We'll try not to hurt your feelings.

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    2. Trump spews vile shit now on a nearly daily basis and it's your role as a MAGAt to make a sandwich out of it. Bon appetit.

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    3. Well, Bob, if indeed it was his kid who murdered him, surely he (probably) deserves a great deal of blame, no?
      No.

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    4. Why "no", because the parent was a super-idiot-Democrat? Surely if he was a normal person, your answer would've been 'yes', right, Soros-bot?

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    5. Now we have trumptard the child psychologist who seems quite certain that if the Reiners had told their son to clean up his room and had examined his report card more carefully, he wouldn't have stabbed them to death.

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    6. Is this a new idiot-Democrat dogma now that the parents have no effect on their child's development?

      Noted.

      Ha-ha. This new idiot-Democrat idiocy has to be right next to their "women trapped in men bodies."

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    7. There are 10 causes of drug addiction lists but none of them are about parents:

      1. Escaping pain and trauma.
      2. Seeking pleasure and euphoria.
      3. Peer pressure and social influence.
      4. Coping with mental health challenges (depression, anxiety, mood disorders).
      5. Curiosity and experimentation.
      6. Coping with stress and pressure.
      7. Genetic and biological factors.
      8. Environmental influences and accessibility.
      9. Lack of education and awareness.
      10. Coping with life transitions and changes.

      Reportedly Nick Reiner was in rehab 18 times during his teen years. He was said to have argued with his father at a Christmas party the Nick before the Reiners were killed. It has not been proven that he killed them.

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    8. typo correction: the night before

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    9. Yes, Soros-bot. And the children of normal people typically are ZERO times in rehab during their teen years.

      And if you aren't a retard, your conclusion is exactly what I suggested @4:07 PM yesterday. But of course you are a retard.

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  3. Can we have MAGA go back to applying Charlie Kirk rules when it comes to discussing a public figure's murder?

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  4. It is immediately obvious how Trump's comment on Reiner's death makes it all about Trump. But it's not that there's "a method to his madness"; it's just that Trump cannot imagine talking about anything other than himself. And given his very noticeable dementia/cognitive decline, Trump's outbursts are becoming more and more bizarre. He's unable to put any control into his posts; it's just diarrhea.

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  5. Colby Hall’s analysis couldn’t be more favorable to Trump if David in Cal had written it. Yet Somerby calls it “well worth considering”. This is how Trump’s deficiencies are turned into strengths by the press and Somerby applauds by taking Hall’s framing seriously.

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    1. How so? Seems like a pretty astute analysis. He says that it works for Trump in the context of hijacking the media attention and shining the spotlight on himself. This one may turn out to be a little different, as everyone -- including the MAGA types -- have pointed out how horrible it is.

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    2. I found Trump's post unbelievably disgusting and offensive.

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    3. He implies Trump does this attention grabbing intentionally, as part of his genius. That may have been true when Trump was young but certainly isn’t now. Hall is writing hagiography.

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    4. Making people angry just to get attention is what a toddler does.

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    5. Trump’s comment was so inappropriate that for the first time I begin to wonder about mental decline.

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    6. Quaker in a BasementDecember 16, 2025 at 3:14 AM

      But people know he's inappropriate. And it works! So I'm told.

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    7. Trump was exaggerating to make a larger point, which is that all Republican voters are bigots.
      The Left refuses to give Trump credit for anything.

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  6. On X, Democrats are blasting Trump ( for good reason) and conservatives are pulling out all the less than sad… tweets about Kirk’s murder that they saved for just such an occasion.
    How can anyone be dismissive of Bob’s disillusionment.

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  7. Hey, Bob, I’m curious whether you have ever considered how, when Vice President Gore described his father's tender love for his mother, the audience couldn't help but compare the older Gores with the Clintons. After the political brouhaha surrounding Lewinsky-gate, I wonder if Clinton’s Vice President was marking that contrast as well.

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    1. Gore tried to distance himself from Clinton.

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    2. Of course he was. Clinton had the highest approval rating upon leaving office (66%) of any president since before Eisenhower, but Gore decided that Cinton's personal life as opposed to the political one required him to break ties. Not a good move.

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    3. Anonymouse 11:10pm, how was it Clinton’s personal life when Vernon Jordan took Lewinsky to an attorney’s office to sign a false affidavit about her relationship with Bill?

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    4. Nice try, 12:27. Apparently 2 out of every 3 Americans looked favorably on Clinton when he left office. But go ahead and try to ignore that. Gore distanced himself from a popular president. In contrast, Republican legislators cling today, out of fear, to the most unpopular president since Nixon, and can look forward to the midterms to collect on that.

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    5. Anonymouse 2:21am, “nice try”? It’s a fact. It doesn’t matter that the public supported him. Clinton had media critics, but his.percentage of negative media coverage wasn’t in the 90s. You didn’t and would never countenance public popularity as a disinfectant for Trump. In fact you’d be castigating the country, and have done that continuously.

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    6. That's only because the media refused to spend years chasing Clinton over a real estate deal he didn't make any money from.
      LOL.

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    7. Cecelia, Get back to us when the "liberal" NY Times apologizes to the country for their blatantly dishonest Whitewater reporting.

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    8. Anonymouse 9:01pm, we’re not talking about real estate. We’re talking about Clinton trying to throw a monkey wrench into a legal case brought against him by a woman. A woman who wasn’t passed out drunk on the ground and a man who was’nt three sheets to wind himself.

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    9. Oh, so sorry, Cecelia, I thought we were talking about the percentage of negative media coverage President Clinton received.

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  8. A roommate of Bob named Al Gore
    Lost an electoral war
    But he wouldn't yield
    He appealed and appealed
    And appealed and appealed evermore.

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    1. Rather unhistoric. Gore appealed to the Supreme Court, and then abided by the decision. He didn't run his mouth about it every chance he got for five years, complaining and moaning and whining about how unfair it was that he lost, like a little bitch.

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    2. Al Gore quit politics.

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    3. Nice try. Why don't you write one about January 6, 2021?

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    4. Hector, this is misinformation. Bush appealed to the Supreme Court. Not Gore. Because they repugs always say, "Federalism for me, not for thee."

      Dickhead can go fuck himself.

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    5. I stand corrected. It was Bush who appealed to the Supreme Court after the Florida Supreme Court allowed a Gore-requested recount to go forward.

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    6. It is a common mistake. Somehow the republicans have more than half the country convince that it was Gore who brought the case to the SC. Republicans view Orwell's "1984" as a How To Manual.

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  9. People in the comments to Colby Hall’s “analysis” do not agree that Trump has gotten away with anything, with his attack on Rob Reiner (who is a murder victim as Charlie Kirk was).

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  10. Somerby thinks Colby Hall’s analysis is worth considering. The Atlantic’s John Dickerson disagrees, as do I.

    “ On Truth Social, he mocked Reiner and invoked his repeated "Trump Derangement Syndrome" attack, baselessly implying that the actor's political criticism led to his own killing — all while Reiner's son faced custody on murder suspicion.

    "Trump did something worse than mock. He blamed a murdered man for his own murder, while the Reiners’ own son sits in custody on suspicion of killing them. Trump used a family tragedy against a dead man. This was not merely irresponsible, nor simply another example of norm-breaking rhetoric. It actively widened the breach. He didn’t affirm human boundaries; he punctured them to display dominance. Grief became a plaything. Shock became his permission," Dickerson wrote.


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    He noted that Trump is often referred to as "Daddy" on the right — a comparison at odds with his behavior, Dickerson said.

    "In times of shock, a parent does not mock the wounded or ridicule the dead. A parent steadies. A parent signals safety, a backstop. Trump instead signaled that nothing is protected, and no shared floor exists," he said.”

    Trump did himself damage with his ugly remarks. That undermines Hall’s argument that Trump gets away with these stunts.

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  11. Steve M describes the reactions to Trump’s Reiner remarks among Trump’s base. They share Trump’s hate and like what he sais. So when Hall says Trump gets away with his garbage perhaps he is only reffering to the base, not reasonable people on the left and right. That base is no more normal than Trump is. But they voted for him.

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  12. “ Regardless of how you felt about Rob Reiner, this is inappropriate and disrespectful discourse about a man who was just brutally murdered. I guess my elected GOP colleagues, the VP, and White House staff will just ignore it because they’re afraid? I challenge anyone to defend it.”

    — Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY), on X.”

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  13. Does this sound like approval of Trump’s remarks?

    “ I’d expect to hear something like this from a drunk guy at a bar, not the President of the United States. Can the president be presidential?”

    — Rep. Don Bacon (R-NE), on CNN, talking about President Trump’s reaction to the murder of filmmaker Rob Reiner.”

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  14. Cecelia attempts to make everything about her here, distracting from substantive comments. This is a right wing tactic. And no, Trump should not be admired for it.

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  15. I get you and agree with you, Anonymouse 11:21pm. However… do not forget to whom you are typing. If Trump had been stabbed to death goodness knows the amount of thinly disguised satisfaction, schadenfreude, faux sighing, and tsking that Trump had asked for it. Sheer relief would spring from the bosoms of anonymices and in no uncertain terms. That would last several hours and then it would be pure anonymouse flying monkey exultation. It would be glee, gladness, taunts, and lip-smacking joy. Don’t forget who and who you’re talking to here. We’ve seen them in action for years.

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    1. There will always be a subset of morally repugnant respondents to tragedies like this. We saw it with Kirk and Paul Pelosi. Social media magnifies their views. They are not President of the United States and your effort here at equating them is repulsive bullshit.

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    2. True. They’re just morally repugnant anonymices.

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    3. True. They’re just morally repugnant anonymices, who Republicans would elect as President of the United States of America, if the anonymices give Republican voters the bigotry they crave like children crave candy.

      Fixed for 100% complete accuracy.

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    4. As usual, the Right-wing talking points on social media are mostly coming from Russian, Chinese, and Iranian troll farms.

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    5. Anonymouse 8:27pm, you get all the negativity and bigotry that you crave via your own posts. Negativity and bigotry comes with your occupation and you work hard at it.

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    6. Cecelia,
      No one can tell the difference between Neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and the fine people on the Right.
      Your inability to do so, doesn't make you as special as you think you are.

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    7. Anonymouse 2:38pm, now go wipe off.

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    8. I told my Republican ex trumper friend the orange was almost assassinated. He didn't believe me and looked it up on his phone. Then said, "damn, missed him by an inch." Which left me thinking, why are Republicans such sick violent fucks?

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    9. Anonymouse 3:17pm, everyone in country said “damn, missed him by an inch”. Some said it in shock and others said it in regret. Damn. Anonymouse flying monkeys aren’t even good trolls.

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  16. Unemployment shoots up to 4.6% - very stable genius at work.

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