tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post1122573333459078626..comments2024-03-28T04:12:17.506-04:00Comments on the daily howler: THE DEMOGRAPHICATION RULES: Something we all can be thankful for!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger68125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-20225095452719712232022-12-01T10:01:37.425-05:002022-12-01T10:01:37.425-05:00The slaves sold on the streets of Libya thanks to ...The slaves sold on the streets of Libya thanks to Obama don't have any income to tax.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-38022371601031596892022-12-01T09:51:09.497-05:002022-12-01T09:51:09.497-05:007:53,
We need to provide those Libyans with though...7:53,<br />We need to provide those Libyans with thoughts, prayers, and a HUGE tax break for corporations and the rich, pronto!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-54864298667622049242022-12-01T09:46:24.375-05:002022-12-01T09:46:24.375-05:00MSNBC is "cancel culturing" (i.e. critic...MSNBC is "cancel culturing" (i.e. criticizing) white people now? <br />It's practically the first step to genocide. LOL.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-44636267355777354762022-12-01T07:35:57.611-05:002022-12-01T07:35:57.611-05:00You mean like the slavery the Democratic party bro...You mean like the slavery the Democratic party brought to Libya in the last decade?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-48954933596070713952022-12-01T07:34:12.318-05:002022-12-01T07:34:12.318-05:00Better trolling please.Better trolling please.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-74554981621572465272022-11-30T21:46:22.901-05:002022-11-30T21:46:22.901-05:00It is hard to motivate the American people to be c...It is hard to motivate the American people to be concerned about class issues when they all aspire to be part of the middle class and identify with consumerist overconsumption. <br /><br />And where were all of you when I commented about International Buy Nothing day? I heard crickets here.<br /><br />Leftist politicians are afraid to raise class issues (although they work toward class-related goals) because they will be called communist and socialist (which means communist in right-speak). Democrats know how to ignore such taunts, but it is difficult to attract "centrists" and independents with such talk. Folks here who claim that the left needs to embrace class issues are largely conservative trolls who want to push left-wing candidates into mistakes that will hurt their campaigns among voters who are less class-conscious than European and Canadian voters. (The left has low-information voters too.) It works far better to claim to be working toward prosperity for all, but then the class warriors here will complain that Democrats are focusing too much on identity issues. Candidates who ignore women's issues these days are dooming their campaigns. Just sayin'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-57883320538718987562022-11-30T21:35:50.213-05:002022-11-30T21:35:50.213-05:00Somerby is pretty obviously with the racists, not ...Somerby is pretty obviously with the racists, not against them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-33445914351092850472022-11-30T21:35:00.524-05:002022-11-30T21:35:00.524-05:00When you look at the current right wing attempts t...When you look at the current right wing attempts to ban books and dictate what gets taught, you can see that this is just part of an ongoing attempt to control how our history is taught in the racist South and some parts of the North. This is nothing new. It is an extension of Jim Crow, not anything to do with woke or progressives or liberals gone to extremes. This is a battle to prevent the South from continuing to whitewash what happened during slavery and the civil war and Jim Crow era (which ended in the late 1960s with the civil rights movement). Racists are pushing back on that attempt to overturn Jim Crow and Republicans have made that central to their efforts to wield power in our country. You are either with the racists or against them. And that has nothing to do with being woke or too PC or annoying centrists. It has to do with being racist or anti-racist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-12761243041461123342022-11-30T21:30:44.003-05:002022-11-30T21:30:44.003-05:00"Hazen’s Elementary History of the United Sta..."Hazen’s Elementary History of the United States: A Story and a Lesson, a popular early 20th-century textbook for young readers, picked up the story of the first black Virginians from there.<br /><br />“The settlers bought them,” explained the 1903 text, “... and found them so helpful in raising tobacco that more were brought in, and slavery became part of our history.”<br /><br />Its barebones lesson plan included just two easily digestible factoids for the year 1619: the introduction of the Africans — with an illustration of two half-naked black people standing on a beach before a pontificating pirate and a crowd of onlookers — and the creation of the Virginia House of Burgesses, the first formal legislative body in the American colonies."<br /><br />From a Georgia State Research project:<br /><br />"If history is written by the victors, then post-Civil War America is a rare exception to the rule, says Chara Bohan, professor of educational policy studies in the College of Education and Human Development.<br /><br />Last year, Bohan and her collaborators, including Dean’s Doctoral Fellow Wade Morris, analyzed history textbooks published in the decades after Reconstruction and found the “Lost Cause narrative,” which advocates a heroic view of the Confederacy, not only predominated in Southern classrooms but crept into history textbooks used across the North as well. By the 1930s, the so-called “mint julep” portrayals of figures including John Brown, John Wilkes Booth and Nathan Bedford Forrest had become the national consensus.<br /><br />This recasting of history carries on today, says Bohan, as publishing companies continue to print different versions of history books to comply with the priorities and educational standards of various states. We spoke with Bohan about her research and the lingering implications of Americans’ miseducation.<br /><br /> <br /><br />How did these “mint julep” history books come about?<br /><br />After the Civil War, from the 1870s through the 1910s, public schooling became more widespread in the South, and Confederate sympathizers wanted to ensure that their children received an “appropriate” education on Southern history and culture. To that end, Southern states developed statewide adoption policies for textbooks. This allowed the state textbook committees to control content by demanding changes or threatening to cancel book contracts unless the publishers acquiesced. Today, most of the states with statewide textbook adoption policies are still in the South.<br /><br />To keep their business, Northern publishers began adapting history books to appease Southerners, essentially publishing a separate version of Civil War history for those states. These editions reinforced a Lost Cause narrative for Southern audiences. For example, they depicted enslaved people as happy and content. Officials even counted the textbook lines to make sure authors had mentioned Jefferson Davis or Robert E. Lee as many times as Abraham Lincoln or Ulysses S. Grant.<br /><br />What our research shows is that as time progressed, increasingly the Southern version of events began infiltrating Northern textbooks as well. As the Southern and Northern narratives merged, Southerners really influenced how and what Americans learned about the Civil War no matter where they lived.<br /><br /> <br /><br />The North won the war, but the South still got to write the history?<br /><br />The South certainly won the textbook war, although it happened gradually."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-33299986242988119682022-11-30T21:27:05.951-05:002022-11-30T21:27:05.951-05:00"Where does it come from, the ignorance that ..."Where does it come from, the ignorance that has been on display of late? In the college-age photos of white men, now elected officials, in blackface? In the simulated Klan lynchings for yearbook laughs? In mischaracterizations of black slaves as "indentured servants?" In the denials that slavery was the central cause of the Civil War?<br /><br />One answer is: from the 69,706,756.<br /><br />That's how many students were enrolled in the South's public elementary and secondary schools between 1889, when the government began counting students, and 1969, the height of the segregationist Jim Crow era, according to the U.S. Department of Education statistics. There they were subjected to the alternative reality of the Lost Cause, a false version of U.S. history developed in response to Reconstruction that minimizes slavery's central role in the Civil War, promotes the Confederacy's aim as a heroic one, glorifies the Ku Klux Klan, and portrays the white South as the victim. <br /><br />The poisonous Lost Cause lessons were taught to multiple generations of Southerners to uphold institutionalized white supremacy — in part through public school curriculums shaped by the United Daughters of the Confederacy (UDC). More famous these days for their controversial Confederate monuments, the UDC had an almost singular focus on making sure the Lost Cause propaganda was so ingrained in the minds of Southern youth that it would be perpetual. Their most effective tool? School textbooks.<br /><br />The constitution of the UDC's North Carolina Division, for example, said the group aimed to insure that "the portion of American history relating to [the Civil War] shall be properly taught in the public schools of the State, and to use its influence towards this object in all private schools." That barebones concept was given flesh by Division President Mrs. I.W. Faison, at the group's annual convention in Wilmington, North Carolina, in 1909:<br /><br />We must see that the correct history is taught our children and train them, not in hatred towards the North who differed from us, but in knowledge of true history of the South in the war between the States and the causes that led up to the war, so that they will be able to state facts and prove that they are right in the principles for which their fathers fought and died; and continue to preserve and defend their cause, until the whole civilized world will come to know that our cause was just and right. … There is an expression often used by our people as the "Lost Cause." Let us forget such, for it is not the truth. …No, our cause was not lost because it was not wrong. <br /><br />A few years earlier, national UDC President Mrs. James A. Rounsaville put it this way at the group's annual convention in Charleston, South Carolina:<br /><br />It has ever been the cherished purpose of the Daughters of the Confederacy to secure greater educational opportunities for Confederate children, and by thorough training of their powers of mind, heart and hand, render it possible for these representatives of our Southern race to retain for that race its supremacy in its own land.<br /><br />The UDC's propaganda campaign utilized other tools to be sure. In 1932 alone, the North Carolina Division placed 183 portraits of Confederate figures in the state's public schools, along with 206 Confederate flags. The following year, it was 865 flags. The UDC, with schools' permission, also conducted essay contests on topics like "The Origin of the Ku Klux Klan" and "The Right of Secession." Submissions were routinely in the thousands.<br /><br />But the UDC's primary focus was on insuring that Southern schools used only those history books loyal to the Lost Cause. "Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-27658306758971854462022-11-30T21:25:23.819-05:002022-11-30T21:25:23.819-05:00"When was the last time a teacher didn’t teac..."When was the last time a teacher didn’t teach that the US had a history of slavery? That’s the premise I am questioning here — that it’s only been recently that these matters are discussed. It’s a false premise, though I know it’s highly satisfying in the moral outrage department."<br /><br />There were textbooks adopted for use in the South that portrayed slavery as simply a form of labor. They depicted slaves as well-cared for and happy on their plantations. For example:<br /><br />"For much of the 20th century, southern classrooms treated Black history — when they touched the subject at all — as a sideshow to a white-dominated narrative.<br /><br />Teachers taught students to sing Dixie and memorize long lists of forgettable governors. Civil War battles got described in detail. Textbooks celebrated the violent overthrow of democratically-elected, multiracial governments. Lynching went unmentioned. The evils of slavery got cursory acknowledgments — and quick dismissals. <br /><br />“It should be noted that slavery was the earliest form of social security in the United States,” a 1961 Alabama history textbook said, falsely. <br /><br />The same forces that took over public spaces to erect monuments to the Confederacy and its white supremacist tenets also kept a tight grip on the history taught to Southern pupils. The United Daughters of the Confederacy (UDC) spent decades shaping and reshaping textbooks to put a strong emphasis on Lost Cause views of the Civil War and Reconstruction, which glorified the white supremacist foundations of the Confederacy and was used to justify segregation and authoritarian Jim Crow governance."<br /><br />"“With all the attention they received in terms of reference to the monuments, I think their most lasting impact was in controlling and censoring textbooks,” said Kevin Levin, a historian who has written on the Civil War in American memory. “That’s often overlooked.”<br /><br />But Black Southerners refused to accept these distortions. Black historians mounted challenges to Lost Cause mythology as early as 1913. Parents and grandparents pushed back against the school lessons given to their children. They passed family stories onto children and grandchildren. They took ordinary moments, like preparing food or fixing hair, to tell stories of Black achievement."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-20721910617735176432022-11-30T21:18:53.353-05:002022-11-30T21:18:53.353-05:00"The white bashing on MSNBC has started to an..."The white bashing on MSNBC has started to antagonize a lot of progressives I know."<br /><br />If someone thinks that what happens on MSNBC is "white bashing," they aren't very woke. Given that progressives are pretty woke, I doubt they are the ones who complain about white bashing. Somerby said it was the centrists who were upset about it. I think a centrist is another name for a never-Trump Republican, or a Democrat who was OK with being a Democrat until someone called him a racist. These miscategorized people will sort themselves out once Trump leaves politics and racist people are free to be Republicans again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-21086306492333722072022-11-30T21:14:45.361-05:002022-11-30T21:14:45.361-05:00"And they do indeed blame white people for mo..."And they do indeed blame white people for most of the ills in the world."<br /><br />If you are in charge, the buck stops with you. When white people are in charge, they are responsible and that means they get the blame when things are wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-18285180660103316632022-11-30T21:12:34.328-05:002022-11-30T21:12:34.328-05:00Somerby excused slavery when he said that no one a...Somerby excused slavery when he said that no one alive today participated in it. He ignores the legacy of slavery in our society while he implies that no one be concerned about it any more because no one today is a slave (except prisoners in some states and those who are being human trafficked). His argument that no one should be confronted by an accurate history of slavery because it upsets some people is another way of excusing slavery -- by saying let's all just move on and pretend it never happened. In service to this, he has argued that people shouldn't care that confederate statues are being worshipped in the South and it is time to stop worrying about segregated schools, and affirmative action is unnecessary and is reverse discrimination (against Chinese students), and so on. <br /><br />It is hard to imagine how Somerby would sound any different if he actually were an admitted bigot, such as Fuentes. 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Let's not waste time/effort on those lost to their own unresolved trauma.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-60626819317001664682022-11-30T17:14:36.551-05:002022-11-30T17:14:36.551-05:00White people did invent racializing slavery, you d...White people did invent racializing slavery, you dope.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-19780996885864723732022-11-30T17:14:02.445-05:002022-11-30T17:14:02.445-05:00Somerby does not object to slavery being taught, b...Somerby does not object to slavery being taught, but being taught as deeply immoral and relevant to modern times.<br /><br />This is because Somerby is a troubled moron with a dark past.<br /><br />Slavery continues to this very day. What was different about American slavery was that it introduced race. Race essentially did not exist prior.<br /><br />For the most part, hunter gatherers were egalitarian, and the minimal (if any - the evidence is weak) slavery that occurred needs to be highly qualified as it does not resemble historical slavery.<br /><br />Slavery is endorsed by no less of an authority than the bible. Yet it is not natural to humans, it emerges from surplus societies that engage in mass commodification. America's contribution to slavery was to racialize it. That is why today in America a White person has a dollar in their pocket while a Black person has 15 cents.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-50633020434368635472022-11-30T16:58:18.577-05:002022-11-30T16:58:18.577-05:002:53 is a right winger, and thus their arguments a...2:53 is a right winger, and thus their arguments are weak to non existent.<br /><br />Let's name a famous Leftist, hmmmm how about Marx - he kind of invented the "class issue".<br /><br />Let's remember Lincoln - he wasn't just concerned about chattel slavery, but also wage slavery.<br /><br />This identifying racists panic that right wingers like to spread is precisely because it is extremely effective, so they try to ameliorate it by attempting to distract with sudden posturing about concern over class.<br /><br />So it is YOU that is doing the moral posturing, supposedly so concerned that fighting racism will deny class issues, when in fact you are merely trying to rebuff an effective attack against the Right.<br /><br />Remember, throughout history Whites were enslaved, that is until America, when Whites were freed from slavery by enslaving people of color. Class is an important issue that Leftists work hard on, but as far as America goes, it has always been about race more than anything else. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-40057016305044688892022-11-30T15:53:43.358-05:002022-11-30T15:53:43.358-05:00It's a divide and rule tactic that the Bob tro...It's a divide and rule tactic that the Bob trolls sadly defend. Whether out of ignorance or malice, who knows?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-68546012383092083772022-11-30T14:53:30.410-05:002022-11-30T14:53:30.410-05:00Yes. Somerby-bashing aside, the biggest problem w...Yes. Somerby-bashing aside, the biggest problem with the Left has been their unwritten contract with the Right to keep the battle lines focused on Race and other non-dangerous issues. Think about when this really took off. It was right after the OWS movement.<br /><br />You can totally talk about both. But we don't. Especially on cable news.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-77021046544041027492022-11-30T13:46:20.350-05:002022-11-30T13:46:20.350-05:00Somerby has always been completely correct about o...Somerby has always been completely correct about our counterproductive and obvious race posturing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-58308832344843035562022-11-30T13:27:42.468-05:002022-11-30T13:27:42.468-05:00I was responding to a previous commenter who claim...I was responding to a previous commenter who claimed the left does not posture about race. The lack of focus on class issues, the disparity between the two, shows that actually it is posturing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-32280614939705968012022-11-30T13:21:43.456-05:002022-11-30T13:21:43.456-05:001:13: Why don’t you frequent a blog that talks abo...1:13: Why don’t you frequent a blog that talks about class issues, then? Somerby’s discussion, the one I am responding to, is about the discussion of racism in and of itself, not how it drowns out discussions of “class” issues. You brought that up. His contention is that merely discussing racial issues causes Democrats to lose votes. He does not argue that talking more about class issues will gain votes for Democrats. In fact, he and Drum have criticized progressive proposals for things like Medicare for All. mhnoreply@blogger.com