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Email: Ahmedutimate@gmail.com Call/what’s-app him: +2348160153829 <br />Greg Glenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17423048485593127047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-25653786985927957702019-05-20T20:47:35.075-04:002019-05-20T20:47:35.075-04:008:10, I don’t even think you know what the terms l...8:10, I don’t even think you know what the terms liberal and conservative even means in this day and age. Me, I’m behind the idea of anarcho-syndicalism, best expressed by Chomsky. A very difficult proposition, given the “liberal” and “conservative” narratives, which have as their base capitalism, and which they use to own the media and propagate narratives which we are all supposed to accept, is the dominant narrative.<br /><br />As well, Chomsky has named the Republican Party as the most dangerous organization currently existing on the planet. If you seriously believe I align myself with them, then you must do your best to go fuck yourself.<br /><br />On, with what I read in this post:<br /><br />“That passage—the passage Ellis instantly bungled—says that 18.2% of the nation's public schools have student enrollments which are 90-100% non-white. In the lexicon of the Civil Rights Project, these schools are "intensely segregated."”<br /><br />Riight. Is it possible that they’re more segregated, in terms of demographics, because there are now more brown people than ever?<br /><br />That’s may be why these new anti-abortion laws, meant to be challenged and eventually head to the Supreme Court, are being pushed. The idea of a non-white majority in the U.S. is simply unfathomable to a very powerful segment of the ruling class.<br /><br />I think it would be poetic justice if the brown people who used to occupy this land were to finally take it back. I’m all for it, in fact. Cmike once asked me what my stance was on open borders, and it was a new concept to me at the time – even though my meandering answer was in the affirmative.<br /><br />8:10, does that sound like a conservative to you?<br /><br />Breathlessly awaiting your reply, you anon sos.<br /><br />Leroy<br />Leroyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02021120389394278239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-64008686980019719632019-05-20T15:48:26.720-04:002019-05-20T15:48:26.720-04:00Transparently anti-white post is transparent.Transparently anti-white post is transparent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-86344659529556941892019-05-20T15:46:10.146-04:002019-05-20T15:46:10.146-04:00Duh. Using the dates Ellis cited, white kids were ...<i>Duh. Using the dates Ellis cited, white kids were 68.8% of the student population in 1988. That number had dropped to 48.4% by 2016. (See the graphic on UCLA's page 16.)</i><br /><br />But yeah, replacement migration is just a conspiracy theory. A twenty percent reduction in the majority population's percentage of students in the school system in 20 years is totally normal, and not at all anything to concern yourself over.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-52959989237957627622019-05-20T15:15:00.009-04:002019-05-20T15:15:00.009-04:00Well, I got the answer to my last question.
Pleas...Well, I got the answer to my last question.<br /><br />Please give an example of TDH carrying water for bigots. Your tribal fantasies don't count. Go ahead. Give it your best shot.deadrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02828198094140822987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-73565044842296366522019-05-20T14:01:44.306-04:002019-05-20T14:01:44.306-04:00You were supposed to take Daniels statements serio...You were supposed to take Daniels statements seriously, not literally.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-34416185038782028292019-05-20T13:59:31.312-04:002019-05-20T13:59:31.312-04:00Is he [Somerby] also a bigot?
I don't know hi...Is he [Somerby] also a bigot?<br /><br />I don't know him, so I can't say for sure, but he most definitely carries water for bigots, so...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-52683155501677323742019-05-20T04:22:16.742-04:002019-05-20T04:22:16.742-04:00Good one, 11:37 AM.Good one, 11:37 AM.CMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481861530761114492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-49496682571308612982019-05-20T03:33:45.916-04:002019-05-20T03:33:45.916-04:00The conservative nominees for judgeships are refus...<i>The conservative nominees for judgeships are refusing to affirm that Brown v Board of Education is settled law.</i><br /><br />Not quite. They’re refusing to say whether they think <i>Brown v Board</i> was correctly decided. This makes it sound like they would be willing to return to separate-but-equal if they had a say. Which they won’t, not in the positions they’re being confirmed to. They also say that <i>Brown v Board</i> is binding precedent that they would be duty bound to uphold and enforce.<br /><br />This doesn’t make “segregation a current issue” because it doesn’t have word one to do with public accommodations or public schools. It’s all about <i>Roe v Wade</i>. These clowns have all been advised not to lie under oath but not to signal that they’re willing to undercut <i>Roe</i> at every opportunity. Thus the refusal to give opinions about any Supreme Court decision lest they be asked about abortion rights.<br /><br />If you think these judges are itching to rule that intrastate railway accommodations can be resegregated by race or that black students can once again be excluded from Little Rock Central High School, then you have no clue about what’s going on.<br /><br /><i>criticizing the entire venture</i> [integration] <i>as statistically unachievable.</i><br /><br />If you think it’s achievable, please present your plan for integrating the Laredo Independent School District. I’ll wait.<br /><br />[TDH] <i>once again cites NAEP scores for disadvantaged students, emphasizing the differences between those black and white scores.</i><br /><br />Not in this blog entry, but when he does, is he wrong about those differences?<br /><br /><i>Somerby keeps pretending that he is a liberal</i><br /><br />And you keep pretending that you know what’s going on.<br /><br /><i>Is he</i> [Somerby]<i> also a bigot?</i><br /><br />I don’t know him, so I can't say for sure. Are you also an idiot?deadrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02828198094140822987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-13476892600088155472019-05-19T22:46:04.137-04:002019-05-19T22:46:04.137-04:00ELLIS (5/17/19): Today, Topeka High School is very...<i>ELLIS (5/17/19): Today, Topeka High School is very different than it was [in 1954]:</i><br /><br />Yeah, in 1954 THS likely had many more white students the 40% of enrollment now, and many fewer Hispanic students than the 29% of enrollment now. But the one thing that wasn’t different was that the high school was integrated.<br /><br /><i>Brown v Board</i> was actually a consolidation of several cases challenging school segregation laws in several states. Kansas was the only appellee that didn’t mandate segregation. Kansas law allowed communities to require their school boards to maintain segregated schools, and in 1954 in Topeka that applied only to some elementary schools.deadrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02828198094140822987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-45028081267629982902019-05-19T22:20:50.823-04:002019-05-19T22:20:50.823-04:00<- con't
If you use the word segregation i...<- con't<br /><br />If you use the word <i>segregation</i> in a racial context (in say, a report that mentions <i>Brown v Board</i>), especially when you can’t get your demographic statistics correct, then you conjure up the worst parts of the worst chapter in American history.<br /><br />If you want to argue with that, then I’ll listen. But I challenge you to find a single sentence in this blog entry or any other of TDH’s that says or implies that “integration is wrong.”<br /><br />On the other hand, I do think TDH is saying that integration of public schools is infeasible in many urban areas because there aren’t enough white students to go around. If you want to argue with that, then I eagerly await your plan to integrate the Laredo Independent School District. And if you can’t come up with one, I promise not to speculate that you think integration is wrong.deadrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02828198094140822987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-68866328303243955142019-05-19T22:19:38.555-04:002019-05-19T22:19:38.555-04:00Not @5:36P,
I’m going to change my abusive approa...Not @5:36P,<br /><br />I’m going to change my abusive approach to commenters here in my reply to your comment in the hope we can have a conversation or at least a “conversation.” I’ll tell you up front that I think this is a fool’s errand, but that’s as may be.<br /><br />Perhaps we can agree that the majority of your comment is both uncontested and irrelevant to the topic at hand. If you think any of the following is off track, please let me know:<br /><br /><i>Somerby opens himself up to criticism on this</i> [going beyond his ostensible remit of criticizing the press]<i>, and it is legitimate to disagree with him.</i><br /><br />Clearly the first clause is true, if only within this commentariat. The second clause seems without force. Legitimate? If you think TDH is inconsistent between his claimed topic and his actual blogging, what could possibly make a disagreement illegitimate? If TDH allows comments from our Village Idiot David in Cal, our Village Troll Mao Cheng Ji, and spam ads from spell casters and Mumbai moving companies, I fail to see how anything is out of bounds.<br /><br /><i>This type of back and forth would be normal on a normal blog. It’s called a “conversation.”</i><br /><br />Are you talking about exchanges between commenters or on the missing exchanges between blogger and commenters? In either case, I don’t know. I don’t read enough blogs to have a sense of what’s normal. My exchanges often go ridiculously beyond the ostensible topic, so what’s blocking your “conversations”?<br /><br /><i>Somerby makes interesting points, but he deliberately provokes people by attacking liberals and journalists.</i><br /><br />Yes, isn’t that a possible reason for his blogging?<br /><br /><i>He does this on purpose, so the responses he gets should be expected.</i><br /><br />I think we have to grant agency to TDH. How else could he blog, by accident? And yes, I think provokers expect to get outraged responses. I can’t know for sure, since I don’t know Somerby personally, and it’s always been my contention that he doesn’t read his comments. But he’s a stand-up comedian, and it’s my understanding that those folks are used to hostile crowds and hecklers.<br /><br /><i>If he were less caustic, he would receive less caustic responses.</i><br /><br />Sounds reasonable. So what? Do you think he cares about the pH of his commentariat? Remember, I don’t think he bothers to read the comments.<br /><br />I don’t understand why you made any of these statements. Perhaps you could clear that up for me.<br /><br />So that leaves your first two sentences, which both seem germane, and if I may be permitted to paraphrase: “TDH criticizes the use of the word <i>segregation</i> because he either thinks integration is wrong or infeasible, and thus he takes a stand on integration even as he hides behind a stance of press criticism.” Have I got that right?<br /><br />But TDH calls the word <i>segregation</i> “fraught,” in other words dangerously misleading. Do you agree? Here’s a little exercise that might help:<br /><br />1) <b>Security segregation</b>, in the context of the securities industry, refers to regulatory rules requiring that customer assets held by a financial institution (generally a brokerage firm) be held separate from assets of the brokerage firm itself in a <b>segregated account</b>. (Wikipedia, emphasis theirs)<br /><br />2) “In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say <b>segregation</b> now, <b>segregation</b> tomorrow, <b>segregation</b> forever.” (George Wallace, 1963 inaugural speech as governor of Alabama)<br /><br />con't ->deadrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02828198094140822987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-4371033940156121892019-05-19T20:54:17.617-04:002019-05-19T20:54:17.617-04:00Off topic
An adult film star who previously allege...Off topic<br /><i>An adult film star who previously alleged an extramarital affair with Donald Trump now says in a statement the affair never happened.<br /><br />A lawyer for porn actress Stormy Daniels confirmed his client’s statement</i><br /><br />Sexy picture at the link. https://www.jstor.org/stable/24887192?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contentsDavid in Calhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09068188536758619565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-25699692385194867482019-05-19T19:32:29.105-04:002019-05-19T19:32:29.105-04:00"So, your arguments may seem very plausible t..."So, your arguments may seem very plausible to you and your Republican friends..."<br /><br />You are way more generous than I, Corby. I don't believe Republicans see their arguments as plausible at all. It's gas lighting all the way down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-49845081132046031762019-05-19T17:54:31.554-04:002019-05-19T17:54:31.554-04:00Where did I say anything about affirmative action ...Where did I say anything about affirmative action benefiting minorities? I said I wouldn't debate affirmative action with you. You always switch topics when you cannot raise a response to something someone says. I was discussing the need to classify people for census purposes and the benefits of census to government services and businesses. <br /><br />If you were collecting statistics I suspect it would be hard to demonstrate that affirmative action hurts Asians and Jews since they would be admitted on the basis of their own higher scores and would not require affirmative help in their applications. If they are not rejected, how do you claim they have been damaged?<br /><br />One reason why African Ameericans are offered affirmative help is that there are negative stereotypes about their abilities. That results in lower test scores due to "stereotype threat" (see Claude Steele's research on this). Because stereotypes of academic ability of Asians and Jews are positive, not negative, there is no reason to believe their scores were depressed by anxiety over conformance to stereotypes. So the mechanisms hypothesized to disadvantage African Americans do not exist for Asians and Jews. <br /><br />When someone raises the kinds of arguments you do about quotas hurting deserving applicants, I always wonder why someone like you is never concerned about the women who are injured by the gender quotas in place at all universities and colleges. They all (except for single-sex schools) institute a policy of admitting roughly equal numbers of males and females. They do this to enhance college life for heterosexual students by providing prospective romantic partners. Because women have been shown to out score men on entrance exams and have higher grades than men, they are disadvantaged by this policy because less qualified men are accepted in place of more qualified women to maintain the equal numbers preferred as a matter of policy. No one questions this, but it is just as unfair as the reasons you claim that affirmative action hurts Asians and Jews. <br /><br />The answer to both situations is that affirmative action is not instituted for the fairness reasons that concern you, but for a greater social good that occurs when a college's student body gives all students a greater chance to learn from and interact with students with a wider variety of backgrounds. It is why they only take so many violin-players and may give preference to someone who plays the bassoon. It is why they don't take all of the qualified athletes who apply but will lower standards to accept the student who climbed Mt. Everest over the summer. Affirmative action exists for fairness reasons (to compensate for disadvantages such students have overcome) but also to keep white kids from living in their perfect bubbles and never meeting anyone who might broaden their perspectives. It is why colleges only take a limited number of students from their feeder (immediate neighborhood) high schools. Kids need to see more of the world in order to be truly educated, and meeting different students is part of that education.<br /><br />So, your arguments may seem very plausible to you and your Republican friends, but they are not taking into account all of the educational objectives that must be met during admissions and they are wrong-headed about fairness.Not a rodenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216459357112547141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-11919875913200732382019-05-19T17:36:35.649-04:002019-05-19T17:36:35.649-04:00Bernie bungled the abortion question on Meet the P...Bernie bungled the abortion question on Meet the Press today. When Todd asked him about use of abortion to select the sex of a child, he said that would have to be addressed, backtracking on the right of a woman to make decisions about her own health. This gaffe suggests he hasn't thought through the issue. <br /><br />Vox summarizes the positions of the other candidates. Gillibrand and Warren are the only ones with detailed proposals:<br /><br />https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/5/17/18627693/2020-democrats-alabama-abortion-ban-hyde-amendment<br /><br />Only 11 out of 24 candidates have something about abortion rights on their web pages. <br /><br />Bernie says he wants judges who will support Roe v Wade, but he hasn't signed onto the idea of a proposed constitutional amendment guaranteeing abortion, transition and contraception healthcare rights. He hasn't called for repeal of the Hyde amendment. He does support funding Planned Parenthood. But there is a lot more that can be done and he isn't doing it. Warren gets it; Bernie doesn't.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-59302102080382719522019-05-19T14:44:14.365-04:002019-05-19T14:44:14.365-04:00@2:20 You assume that affirmative action benefits ...@2:20 You assume that affirmative action benefits minorities. Often it does, but not always. In college admissions, affirmative action hurts Asians and Jews.David in Calhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09068188536758619565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-38748614931558302552019-05-19T14:33:44.472-04:002019-05-19T14:33:44.472-04:00@2:20 wrote If you are going to protect people aga...@2:20 wrote <i>If you are going to protect people against discrimination, you have to count them and measure outcomes for both the people you are protecting and the ones you are not protecting</i><br /><br />That sounds reasonable, but in practice it's difficult or impossible to measure accurately. A common error is to ignore differences in interests and abilities between various groups and attribute all differences in outcome to discrimination. A version of this error is to assume that any given institution should have the same percentage of each ethnic group as exist in the general population. David in Calhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09068188536758619565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-40451088753474498032019-05-19T14:20:48.657-04:002019-05-19T14:20:48.657-04:00It always comes back to the belief Republicans hav...It always comes back to the belief Republicans have that others are getting "extra stuff" that they didn't earn or don't deserve. <br /><br />If you are going to protect people against discrimination, you have to count them and measure outcomes for both the people you are protecting and the ones you are not protecting. That measurement means counting them and also keeping track of stuff like average incomes, house prices, rents, admissions to college, and so on. Republicans who won't measure this stuff are impeding efforts to fight discrimination. <br /><br />I won't argue affirmative action with you -- it is your typical bait and switch argument.<br /><br />I do wonder why conservatives were never taught at church that it is wrong to envy others and covet their stuff. It is even one of the 10 commandments. Yet they are excessively worried about whether they are getting their share of the stuff and worrying about whether minorities are getting too much stuff. If I get into college, great. I don't worry that others got into better colleges than I did or whether they got in with lower grades than I had. If I don't get into college, I try to improve my application by remedying the deficit and apply again. Losers file lawsuits claiming that minorities took their space. Losers worry about what others have and how they got it. It is right to protect minorities from the spitefulness of white losers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-42160837879726954862019-05-19T13:45:29.004-04:002019-05-19T13:45:29.004-04:00@1:33 My understanding is that Roberts meant his c...@1:33 My understanding is that Roberts meant his comment to be a criticism of "affirmative action", but not not a criticism of anti-discrimination laws.<br /><br />It's NOT discriminatory to protect people against discrimination based on their ethnicity. It IS discriminatory to give certain groups of people extra stuff based on their ethnicity. David in Calhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09068188536758619565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-32052866301712201982019-05-19T13:33:34.616-04:002019-05-19T13:33:34.616-04:00The way to stop crime is for criminals to stop com...The way to stop crime is for criminals to stop committing crimes. We have asked them to stop so we don't need to have police or courts or jails. <br /><br />Justice Roberts is being silly. You (and I assume other conservatives) are using this fatuous remark as an excuse to ignore what is important to everyone on the planet -- their family customs and traditions, their identity, on the grounds that it would be discrimination to notice such things. Bullshit. It is only discrimination when you treat someone badly or in an unfair manner, denying them their rights as citizens, on the basis of that identity. No one intends to do away with Christmas or Cinco de Mayo (which is not celebrated in Mexico but mainly in the USA), or pizza because these are associated with specific ethnic, racial or religious groups. <br /><br />Every time you post one of your conservative memes, like this one, it makes me respect you and Republicans less. If you can't reason your way past something like this, you just aren't trying. And that makes me think you want a reason to oppose the statistics that are used to measure whether people are being treated fairly in things like housing, employment, schools and services. If there is no way to measure mistreatment, then there is no way to oppose it either. And it seems to me that is the real conservative goal. To go back to letting bigots treat minorities badly without consequences.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-80434761378766187322019-05-19T13:31:15.667-04:002019-05-19T13:31:15.667-04:00"I agree with Chief Justice Roberts, “The way..."I agree with Chief Justice Roberts, “The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.”<br /><br />Who then tossed out parts of the Voting Rights Act, which protect minority voters. Well, at least David was fooled.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com