tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post2052788909212472801..comments2024-03-28T14:57:10.887-04:00Comments on the daily howler: Candidate Romney gets conned by a con!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-168107196318014232012-10-19T12:48:26.618-04:002012-10-19T12:48:26.618-04:00
Gop paid for the movie
Gop is to blame<br />Gop paid for the movie<br />Gop is to blameAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10804081915213744666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-37670551149336630372012-10-18T16:37:04.010-04:002012-10-18T16:37:04.010-04:00"No acts of terror will ever shake the resolv..."No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done."<br /><br />Yep. Only "implied" it. And only on Bizarro WorldAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-28630593271319655752012-10-18T13:35:38.126-04:002012-10-18T13:35:38.126-04:00If it was so all-fired clear that Obama had called...If it was so all-fired clear that Obama had called it a terror attack, why did the administration spend the next week refusing to call it an act of terror? Why did Obama, after this last debate, explain to the guy that asked the question why he delayed labeling the attack an act of terror (because he wanted to be sure)?<br /><br />The closest you have to a gotcha is "no, he strongly implied it was an act of terror" which ain't much.ABLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-78146791829547625252012-10-18T09:46:21.480-04:002012-10-18T09:46:21.480-04:00Two quick points, "undermining" isn'...Two quick points, "undermining" isn't the same as "defeating". Considering what kind of movement al Qaeda is, we're probably never going to defeat it in a classic sense. It's a nebulous network of organizations, groups, and radicalized individuals. And related to that, there's no such thing as the 'al Qaeda' flag. <br /><br />My prediction, Republican fury about Benghazi will stop the day after the election, just like the phony indignation over the 'Ground Zero Mosque' stopped the day after the mid-term elections. It's just political manipulation. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-85420469974258499442012-10-18T09:24:51.841-04:002012-10-18T09:24:51.841-04:00So you say it is "possible," but then yo...So you say it is "possible," but then you say it is impossible?<br /><br />What kind of doublespeak is that?<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-25192214850993230772012-10-18T09:10:33.942-04:002012-10-18T09:10:33.942-04:00You "think he's wrong." Real convinc...You "think he's wrong." Real convincing argument.<br /><br />AC in MAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-36266345417970608452012-10-18T08:41:42.032-04:002012-10-18T08:41:42.032-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.irishguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05214796640416172528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-90484337929106780632012-10-18T08:31:21.716-04:002012-10-18T08:31:21.716-04:00Yes, ABL, when the president specifically spoke ab...Yes, ABL, when the president specifically spoke about the attack in Benghazi and used the words "acts of terror", promised a full investigation, and promised that the perpetrators would be brought to justice, he was obviously talking about something else.<br /><br />And up is down, north is south, the sky is pink, and a Cocker Spaniel puppy is really a duck because it can swim.<br /><br />This is the problem with attempting a dialogue with a hard ideologue. When the objective truth doesn't work, you invent your own "truth" and that becomes your new Bible.<br /><br />The president couldn't have possibly been more clear on Sept. 12, and to the rest of the world, Obama was talking about Benghazi when he issued his statement about Benghazi.<br /><br />But when Mitt Romney said, also quite clearly, it took him two weeks to get around to calling Benghazi an act of terror, don't believe your lying ears or your lying eyes.<br /><br />Mitt has just gotta be telling the truth, right? After all, he would never, ever attempt to use this solely for political advantage. Would he?<br />irishguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05214796640416172528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-68960896206446519912012-10-18T07:32:07.788-04:002012-10-18T07:32:07.788-04:00...which though of absolutely zero rhetorical sign......which though of absolutely zero rhetorical significance, somehow anyway proves Romney's "larger point" -- this administration isn't taking our security/terrorism seriously enough.<br /><br />Mentally disABLed Personnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-40544044895880116972012-10-18T01:59:23.096-04:002012-10-18T01:59:23.096-04:00Here's the rest of the quote.
" What we...Here's the rest of the quote.<br /><br /> " What we think then transpired in Benghazi is that opportunistic extremist elements came to the consulate as this was unfolding. They came with heavy weapons which unfortunately are readily available in post revolutionary Libya. And it escalated into a much more violent episode. Obviously, that's-- that's our best judgment now. We'll await the results of the investigation. And the president has been very clear--we'll work with the Libyan authorities to bring those responsible to justice. " [MSNBC, Meet the Press, 9/16/12]<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />So she still thinks it was a " spontaneous reaction " but a few bad guys who just happened to be carrying rocket-propelled grenades, hand grenades, anti-aircraft weapons, assault rifles, gun trucks, mortars, and diesel canisters decided to jump in.<br /><br />Well , I guess that's possible.<br /><br /><br />But it still does not change the fact that Rice called it a " spontaneous reaction ".<br /><br />" what happened in Benghazi was in fact initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in Cairo, "<br /><br />"In fact ". What the hell is the author of this article not comprehending ? I agree with the guy who called the author an idiot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-77281152461129304192012-10-18T01:25:42.730-04:002012-10-18T01:25:42.730-04:00Of course you cherry picked this quote by leaving ...Of course you cherry picked this quote by leaving out the 2nd part. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-37261038164938165302012-10-18T00:50:22.004-04:002012-10-18T00:50:22.004-04:00Right. It's just a coincidence. The idea that ...Right. It's just a coincidence. The idea that the attacks could have been coordinated is just plain crazy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-84358872108482352972012-10-18T00:48:38.206-04:002012-10-18T00:48:38.206-04:00Sure, the implication is that he meant Benghazi, b...Sure, the implication is that he meant Benghazi, but he didn't say it. He didn't say it. ABLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-15186904672027426892012-10-18T00:43:01.360-04:002012-10-18T00:43:01.360-04:00She did claim it was a spontaneous act caused by t...She did claim it was a spontaneous act caused by the video, despite what the idiot who wrote this article said. Here's the actual transcript:<br /><br /><br />GREGORY: Well, let’s talk-- talk about-- well, you talked about this as spontaneous. Can you say definitively that the attacks on-- on our consulate in Libya that killed ambassador Stevens and others there security personnel, that was spontaneous, was it a planned attack? Was there a terrorist element to it?<br />MS. RICE: Well, let us-- let me tell you the-- the best information we have at present. First of all, there’s an FBI investigation which is ongoing. And we look to that investigation to give us the definitive word as to what transpired. But putting together the best information that we have available to us today our current assessment is that what happened in Benghazi was in fact initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in Cairo, almost a copycat of-- of the demonstrations against our facility in Cairo, which were prompted, of course, by the video. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-83380725209877468892012-10-17T23:55:45.293-04:002012-10-17T23:55:45.293-04:00As Colbert just said, just because Obama said &quo...As Colbert just said, just because Obama said "acts of terror" in a speech about the Benghazi attack the day after the Benghazi attack doesn't mean he was talking about the Benghazi attack.<br /><br />irishguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05214796640416172528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-21724053503911654622012-10-17T23:54:18.885-04:002012-10-17T23:54:18.885-04:00I go to a Mexican bar and restaurant on St. Patric...I go to a Mexican bar and restaurant on St. Patrick's Day. The owner, a friend named Jose, displays an Irish flag. Does that him Irish?<br /><br />What you got here is that at least four yahoos have al Qaeda flags and brought them to the protests. Period.<br /><br /><br /><br />irishguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05214796640416172528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-82077475275981839622012-10-17T23:27:37.889-04:002012-10-17T23:27:37.889-04:00Reporting in the NYT contemporary with the attack ...Reporting in the NYT contemporary with the attack AND this week show that the fighters who staged the attack said the insulting film trailer prompted the attack. The same bunch attacked diplomatic posts for Italy and Tunisa over the past few years.<br /><br />So who are you gonna believe about the attackers motives? Certainly not the attackers themselves!Quaker in a Basementnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79020216001755360552012-10-17T23:16:25.801-04:002012-10-17T23:16:25.801-04:00So you're sticking with the story that Obama d...So you're sticking with the story that Obama didn't make his antecedents clear enough? In spite of the fact that no native speaker of English (without an axe to grind) would construe Obama's comments in context to exclude the very attack that was the occasion for his appearance?<br /><br />OK. But given your comment about Somerby, I'm beginning to think that your problem understanding English may be larger than I first thought. Somerby doesn't complain about the media not talking up Rmoney's obvious gaffe; he comments on what happens when someone relies on media people known for incompetence and dishonesty. But since that's Rmoney as well, how did the con artists manage to con a con artist? Shouldn't he have seen that coming? It's sort of a "When ironic things happen to bad people" story. deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-14131752175429716062012-10-17T22:31:28.473-04:002012-10-17T22:31:28.473-04:00The problem with this whole Gaffe of the Ages stor...The problem with this whole Gaffe of the Ages story is that Obama did not say that the Benghazi attack was an act of terror. He used the phrase "acts of terror" but only after he had mentioned 9/11 and not specifically in regard to Benghazi. It looked like a big win for Obama because Crowley intervened but it's going to play out differently. It is amusing to see Bob jumping up and down because the media isn't making a big enough deal of a gaffe. Everybody gets tribal before an election, I guess. ABLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-15018705677731158872012-10-17T21:38:22.149-04:002012-10-17T21:38:22.149-04:00Possibly the raising of 4 al Qaeda flags over 4 e...Possibly the raising of 4 al Qaeda flags over 4 embassies on 9/11 was just a coincidence. If so, it's one he'll of a coincidence, huh?ABLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-71272916935832025752012-10-17T21:09:14.421-04:002012-10-17T21:09:14.421-04:00By the way, ABL. The video protesters at other emb...By the way, ABL. The video protesters at other embassies who brought al-Qaeda flags were no more al-Qaeda than the hippie radicals of the Vietnam era (who later became stockbrokers and accountants), became Chinese because they sometimes carried pictures of Chairman Mao.<br />irishguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05214796640416172528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-31576976333018280392012-10-17T21:03:41.681-04:002012-10-17T21:03:41.681-04:00Who made the specific plea for more security at th...Who made the specific plea for more security at the Benghazi compound? What exactly did they ask for?<br /><br />And why, oh why, was MITT ROMNEY the first person to conflate the video with the attack in Benghazi?<br /><br /> irishguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05214796640416172528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-49090600132989074562012-10-17T21:00:39.690-04:002012-10-17T21:00:39.690-04:00Yeah, we know all about premature "Mission Ac...Yeah, we know all about premature "Mission Accomplished."<br /><br />By the way, who told you that the only terrorists in the world are formally linked to al-Qaeda, ergo every terrorist attack is the work of al-Qaeda?<br /><br />Don't keep on top of world events much, do you?<br /><br /><br />irishguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05214796640416172528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-91210334566943377862012-10-17T20:12:36.157-04:002012-10-17T20:12:36.157-04:00It's not a question of fault, it's that ap...It's not a question of fault, it's that apparently we haven't "undermined" al Qaeda quite as much as claimed. A premature "Mission Accomplished" if you will.ABLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-84253140733272115992012-10-17T20:07:51.147-04:002012-10-17T20:07:51.147-04:00It's perfectly obvious that what happened in L...It's perfectly obvious that what happened in Libya must be the fault of Obama and his administration, and somehow undoes the killing of Osama bin Laden and other successes at undermining Al Qaeda. <br /><br />Just so, the bombing of the Marine barracks in Lebanon in 1983 was Ronald Reagan's fault. <br /><br />Simple as that. Perfect logic. mchnoreply@blogger.com