tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post2283943195325053938..comments2024-03-29T00:25:24.008-04:00Comments on the daily howler: EPISTEMIC ENCLOSURES: A slight condescension!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-3504959115214682372021-04-17T10:15:56.193-04:002021-04-17T10:15:56.193-04:00Blonde Call Girls Mumbai
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You're half right. I actu...Anonymouis @11:19:<br /><br />You're half right. I actually look at the evidence. It's what I do.<br /><br />You, not so much.deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-21427589276395418712013-08-29T23:19:08.366-04:002013-08-29T23:19:08.366-04:00How embarrassing for you to attempt to argue somet...How embarrassing for you to attempt to argue something so ridiculous, but predictable, deadrat. It's what you do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-70434850192831705452013-08-29T19:48:00.925-04:002013-08-29T19:48:00.925-04:00Anonymous @ 7:30P,
The President didn't say t...Anonymous @ 7:30P,<br /><br />The President didn't say that the work of the lowly-paid is beneath the dignity of anyone. In fact he says the opposite: "... no man can take away the dignity and grace that God grants us.<br /><br />How embarrassing for you to misunderstand something so simple.<br /><br />What the President is celebrating is the battle of people to ensure that low-wage work isn't the only opportunity for their children. Nothing to do with the disrespecting the societal value of work, no matter how undervalued it may be in the market.<br /><br />Clear now?deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-87451156637494070182013-08-29T19:39:27.127-04:002013-08-29T19:39:27.127-04:00CeceliaMc,
In the case of P^3 (or whatever nym he...CeceliaMc,<br /><br />In the case of P^3 (or whatever nym he's adopted now), the exertions always seemed to me far larger than the point exerted upon. Thus the placement of the adjective.deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-86290621934513580122013-08-29T19:34:40.687-04:002013-08-29T19:34:40.687-04:00MC,
Experience: yeah, me too. And if the Presid...MC,<br /><br />Experience: yeah, me too. And if the President actually denigrated the valuable work done by low-paid people or "stood back" to tell them they shouldn't complain about their exploitation in the market, then you might have a point. But you don't, since nobody, including the President or me, is saying any such thing.<br /><br />The condescension is yours in telling people to impute insult to words that carry no insult. As though these poor, undervalued members of the lumpen proletariat need your help to guide them through the complicated thicket of Obama's speech:<br /><br />Sure, he <i>said</i> that he applauded a generation that sought wider opportunity for their children, but what he <i>meant</i> was that you are worthless and your work is contemptible.<br /><br />Yeah, you're a light unto the downtrodden. In your own mind, anyway.deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-86664243367158313642013-08-29T19:30:53.825-04:002013-08-29T19:30:53.825-04:00Besides the disrespect reflected in low wages, the...Besides the disrespect reflected in low wages, they have to suffer the insults of their president saying that the work is beneath the dignity of anyone and that anyone still doing it must have limited imaginations. Millions will always be doing this work. There are only so many slots for movie stars and surgeons and politicians. Obama appears not to know this. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-25787230741586376602013-08-29T18:22:28.110-04:002013-08-29T18:22:28.110-04:00As always, I am speaking from my own experience, d...As always, I am speaking from my own experience, deadrat. <br /><br /> <br />"In my experience, most of them take pride in doing their invaluable work." Did you ever talk to any of them about their wages? The point is that society does not show such people the proper respect by honoring their work with a decent wage. Anyone who has actually been a CNA understands this. I know plenty of nurses who shudder at the thought of having to go back to CNA work. To just stand back and tell the CNAs that they should just aim higher next generation and not complain about the disrespect is so very wonderfully condescending of you, deadrat. M Carpenternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-88607429109247166522013-08-29T18:05:14.012-04:002013-08-29T18:05:14.012-04:00Well, not "great" actually, my ankle has...Well, not "great" actually, my ankle has been hurting a mite, but pretty damn good, thanks.CeceliaMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16017255006204800193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-45855854283273948882013-08-29T18:03:24.022-04:002013-08-29T18:03:24.022-04:00Really? Talked to any of them?
I thought not.
...Really? Talked to any of them? <br /><br />I thought not.<br />deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-89817332044356824272013-08-29T17:53:24.609-04:002013-08-29T17:53:24.609-04:00I doubt any of them AREN'T insulted by Obama&#...I doubt any of them AREN'T insulted by Obama's words. The great orator has again demonstrated his unmatched ability to make people feel worse about their existence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-29791784617549014102013-08-29T17:50:10.877-04:002013-08-29T17:50:10.877-04:00That must make the people who are washing clothes ...That must make the people who are washing clothes and cleaning houses feel great.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-55263373187984098712013-08-29T17:13:45.029-04:002013-08-29T17:13:45.029-04:00MC,
I'm sure we call all feel the love pourin...MC,<br /><br />I'm sure we call all feel the love pouring over you from all those who work in "undervalued, underpaid, yet invaluable menial service." Just as a matter of curiosity, who appointed you their spokesman and Presidential interpreter?<br /><br />Try talking to CNAs doing all the dirty work in nursing homes for 10 bucks an hour. In my experience, most of them take pride in doing their invaluable work. I doubt any of them are insulted by the President's suggestion that even so they might want expanded opportunities for their children, perhaps as RNs and MDs.deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-44375623504579792582013-08-29T17:06:39.528-04:002013-08-29T17:06:39.528-04:00Only if you're Travis Bickel.Only if you're Travis Bickel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-65360770961765230802013-08-29T16:54:04.858-04:002013-08-29T16:54:04.858-04:00Oh, good.
What Bob REALLY means is ...Please be e...Oh, good.<br /><br />What Bob REALLY means is ...Please be extremely careful not to give the impression that some work is less than dignified. <br /><br />Personally, I would have added "President Precious", just to mitigate any chance of someone nitpicking.<br /><br />CeceliaMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16017255006204800193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-81585711626516372792013-08-29T16:37:37.456-04:002013-08-29T16:37:37.456-04:00Deadrat, I'm glad that your desire for accurac...Deadrat, I'm glad that your desire for accuracy kept you from putting "prodigious" before pud.CeceliaMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16017255006204800193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-88297656189848122482013-08-29T15:54:19.633-04:002013-08-29T15:54:19.633-04:00You talking to me?
LGYou talking to me?<br /><br />LGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-88076287634170092512013-08-29T15:52:07.125-04:002013-08-29T15:52:07.125-04:00I await Ceceilia's inevitable post explaining ...I await Ceceilia's inevitable post explaining what Bob really, really, really meant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-31005003242020704832013-08-29T15:49:51.327-04:002013-08-29T15:49:51.327-04:00I watched Bill Moyers this past Sunday on PBS who&...I watched Bill Moyers this past Sunday on PBS who's guest was Mark Leibovich discussing his book This Town, so I'm looking forward to your limning it as well. It's a topic made for you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-21255602523037921302013-08-29T15:47:00.576-04:002013-08-29T15:47:00.576-04:00Look within yourself.
LGLook within yourself.<br /><br />LGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-65721618410759535622013-08-29T15:35:00.596-04:002013-08-29T15:35:00.596-04:00Words and condescending attitudes like Obama's...Words and condescending attitudes like Obama's are what justifies people like Tim Russert to move from the honorable garbage collection work of his father to the garbage distribution work of Jack Welch. This is why the thousands still in sanitation resent the millions looted by those in broadcast journalism and take serious offense at the words of their President. What an elitist celebrity. And, I might add, an unqualified colored man.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-61167006932883753352013-08-29T15:23:59.659-04:002013-08-29T15:23:59.659-04:00Bob,
"Ordinary people" vs "regular ...Bob,<br />"Ordinary people" vs "regular people". Of course, Obama wrong.<br />Bob! Bob! Bob!<br /><br />Of course all work is honorable!<br /><br />But when Sonia Satomayor's mom saw her nominated to the Supreme Court of the United States it sure as shit beat seeing her daughter washing clothes or cleaning houses.<br /><br />Come back to us Bob. Come back.<br /><br />Condescension? Look within yourself.<br /><br />LG<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-39038640984961932202013-08-29T15:04:16.246-04:002013-08-29T15:04:16.246-04:00Yep, those damned RN's. And damn any ordinary...Yep, those damned RN's. And damn any ordinary nursing assistant who works for systemic change to make it possible for her child to imagine becoming an RN even though her Momma had what it takes to be an MD. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-62307244482252633902013-08-29T15:03:21.269-04:002013-08-29T15:03:21.269-04:00Dead rat engages in absurd sophistry. Obama insult...Dead rat engages in absurd sophistry. Obama insulted hard working people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com