tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post2508154125486115590..comments2024-03-28T14:33:44.704-04:00Comments on the daily howler: Drumming Brooks: Here’s the bad news!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-57551849720522026712012-11-03T15:20:11.536-04:002012-11-03T15:20:11.536-04:00We cannot under any circumstances reward the dange...We cannot under any circumstances reward the dangerous obstructionism of the Republican Party with the Presidency or continued control or veto power in the Congress. They have proved to be irresponsible and to reward that would be to finally break our system of government, we will have invited them to always play for all the marbles no matter the consequences to the Republic or the people. And if rewarded for this bad behavior we will no doubt see more of it. <br /><br />We cannot under any circumstances allow someone as malleable as Mitt Romney to become President, especially with the support of those who now "support", but will later dominate, this candidate. <br /><br />And we cannot, if we wish to face our children to teach them honesty, support his campaign against not only Obama, but simple truth itself.<br /> <br />These are CONSERVATIVE values... What does Mitt Romney stand for?<br /> <br />Re-Elect the President, return a Democratic Congress, send the Tea Party home...<br /><br />Time to Sweep Up... The party's over... 58 Senate Democrats on Wednesday morning, pickin' up 31 House seats... End the charade. <br /><br />Do not reward the billionaires who have spent hundreds of millions to deceive you, show them the waste of their money! The soul of America is not for sale, our Republic was created by and for the people, and derives its just powers only through the consent of the governed <br /><br />We do not require the consent of the corporations or the 1%, quite the contrary...<br /><br />RG Johnson<br />San Jose CA<br /> <br />PS: Nice to see you still out there, Bob... I first came across your stuff while I still goin' "Huh?" on or about 12/12/2000... Well, that was another world, wasn't it... And I picked up a theme at that time that I believe I owe to you, though I do find ways of expression that that are perhaps less hard edged than your own. It essentially boils down to critical thinking, a dusty old classic, Logic... Which is a skill, not a talent. A procedure with a known structure, not intuition, not genius, and thus is something which can be taught. In fact, it was taught, for centuries, as it has come to us from the Greeks, much informed but little improved. <br /><br />Perhaps if we start with today's High School Sophomores... As the wise man said, Lincoln I think, the philosophy of the classroom today will be the philosophy of government tomorrow. Ah, but to plan tomorrow one must save today... See ya'll on Tuesday, eh?<br />RG Johnson<br />Dallas112263<br />Ramrod at the Cosmic Cowboy Ranch<br />Dallas112263https://www.blogger.com/profile/08295193028658591067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-72274704143638239352012-10-31T14:43:01.231-04:002012-10-31T14:43:01.231-04:00?? As Bob correctly points out, in the Senate, la...?? As Bob correctly points out, in the Senate, land is effectively people. Each state gets two Senators by dint of its existence, and regardless of population.Matt in the Crownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02083162679471045642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-9726807095944027522012-10-31T13:55:08.261-04:002012-10-31T13:55:08.261-04:00last sentence is not merely false, but actually in...last sentence is not merely false, but actually inverts reality: Gore won any legit recount. that's what the consortium found.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-2961616867316343542012-10-31T12:18:54.892-04:002012-10-31T12:18:54.892-04:00It's a discussion board not an edited journal....It's a discussion board not an edited journal. Thank you for your concern about my typos. <br /><br />Yes Propertied Classes. <br /><br />The cities are filled with predatory zombies. Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-53602788617577302282012-10-31T11:19:55.182-04:002012-10-31T11:19:55.182-04:00Dan,
"Anyway, why should cities full of poor...Dan,<br /><br />"Anyway, why should cities full of poor useless mouths decide the fate of the rest of the country? I know your propaganda filled brain cannot process this view but, city dwellers endanger the properties (sic) classes that are stewards of the land." <br /><br />Ayn Rand couldn't have said it better.<br /><br />Except she might have called true humans the "propertied classes."gravymeisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16075831177588700301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-66216801954720053072012-10-31T10:11:37.704-04:002012-10-31T10:11:37.704-04:00I think acceptance of current GOP intransigence ha...I think acceptance of current GOP intransigence has been largely dependent on the state of the economy. As that condition inevitably improves over the near term, the GOP will find sustaining its extremity will exact an ever steeper price.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-4976705718198436392012-10-31T10:06:12.270-04:002012-10-31T10:06:12.270-04:00"Auto spellcheck changed it to rate."
..."Auto spellcheck changed it to rate." <br /><br />Rest easy, it made no difference.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-68669421531228258422012-10-31T09:03:20.858-04:002012-10-31T09:03:20.858-04:00The fate of all that land
Auto spellcheck chang...The fate of all that land <br /><br /><br />Auto spellcheck changed it to rate. <br /><br /><br />Anyway, why should cities full of poor useless mouths decide the fate of the rest of the country? I know your propaganda filled brain cannot process this view but, city dwellers endanger the properties classes that are stewards of the land. <br /><br /><br />LA NYC Baltimore Detroit etc are ant heaps. Many are filled with dangerous zombie-like denizens. Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-8884210693316653642012-10-31T08:37:01.141-04:002012-10-31T08:37:01.141-04:00And reading Brooks' rather silly column, it se...And reading Brooks' rather silly column, it seems that a third Mitt will emerge after inauguration day. Not the Severely Conservative Mitt that promised to dismantle FEMA, and repeal Obamacare on his first day in office. Not Moderate Mitt who says the path to prosperity is even more tax cuts for the wealthy. But a new Center-Left Mitt who will align with Democrats in Congress while Republicans dare not oppose him.<br /><br />Brooks even said on Morning Joe that it is likely that a Romney Administration would actually increase federal income tax rates on the wealthy -- something that an Obama Administration could never get passed.<br /><br />Jaw-droppingly stupid and naive.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-36785771305188160902012-10-31T08:26:21.675-04:002012-10-31T08:26:21.675-04:00I suppose that somehow makes sense to you.I suppose that somehow makes sense to you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-44740597814199266022012-10-31T08:20:21.051-04:002012-10-31T08:20:21.051-04:00Coastal ant heaps full of zombies should not deter...Coastal ant heaps full of zombies should not determine the rate of all that land either. Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-72586728253207332222012-10-31T08:13:21.175-04:002012-10-31T08:13:21.175-04:00Bob, way back when, you linked to a 2000 county-by...Bob, way back when, you linked to a 2000 county-by-county election results map the right-wing was using to show that Bush really won in a landslide. A huge swath of the nation was painted red.<br /><br />You correctly pointed out then the difference between land and people. Of course, Bush won in lots of territory where few people lived, you said, but that wasn't the same as winning the votes of people.<br /><br />Now, winning in Montana and Wyoming is the same as winning in California and New York? Oh my!<br /><br />As Drum correctly points out, electing Romney on the basis that Republicans in Congress will never work with Obama is to reward obstructionism. Is that the road we want to follow?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-51724620828467164992012-10-31T01:32:13.816-04:002012-10-31T01:32:13.816-04:00 I say, elect Obama, so he can stop what the Repub... I say, elect Obama, so he can stop what the Republican will do against the country!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-9771891417704787352012-10-31T01:01:11.739-04:002012-10-31T01:01:11.739-04:00Why would you count Florida? As I recall there wa...Why would you count Florida? As I recall there was an offical count and at least 2 official recounts, using different rules. Bush won all of these counts and recounts. Gore requested another recount on yet a different basis, but that recount was turned down by the Supreme Court. However, a media consortium later did a recount on the basis that Gore had requested. They found that Bush probably would have won a recount on that basis, too.David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-62500308407347798922012-10-31T00:28:57.643-04:002012-10-31T00:28:57.643-04:00Or 22 states if you count New Hampshire.
Of cours...Or 22 states if you count New Hampshire.<br /><br />Of course Bush won New Hampshire, giving him the electoral college victory. But in New Hampshire Gore + Nader > Bush.<br /><br />Of course your essay begs the question. Which is better - doing nothing or gouging my eyes out? Doing nothing, or burning down my house? Doing nothing, or slashing my wrists and then jumping into shark infested waters?<br /><br />Sure Romney will be able to do more things than Obama, but maybe it matters whether the things he does are good, or whether he does the things he has been promising to do, which are very, very bad.<br /><br />Doing nothing is hardly the worst possible option.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-83559838049780110672012-10-30T22:39:35.495-04:002012-10-30T22:39:35.495-04:00It's a good argument for secession. Why lash y...It's a good argument for secession. Why lash yourselves to the rednecks and suffer their conservative politics? Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-65188414963776075872012-10-30T21:25:30.520-04:002012-10-30T21:25:30.520-04:00I said something similar to this a few years ago, ...I said something similar to this a few years ago, that Romney is more likely to get some stimulus through than Obama, because of Republican obstructionism. For awhile, I toyed with the idea of supporting Romney: the economy trumps all in my view. Then I saw him campaign. After watching him campaign, and seeing how nakedly insane the Republicans have become, I now think Obama doing nothing is an improvement over Romney doing something, including, even especially, on the economy. I dislike Obama, who's a compromised punk, but Romney, with his Randian sidekook Ryan, is too dangerous. Obama will do nothing, but his re-election basically buys us four years; that's four more years where some more of the Republcian base can die off, where the country can turn a little browner, and thus more liberal, four more years for a truly progressive movement to emerge as a counter to right wing extremism. It's a faint hope I admit, but it's the only hope out there. Think of all the hope that was out there four years ago. Did I mention that Obama is a compromised punk? tilhttp://til.tknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-78921560124597896882012-10-30T17:16:23.270-04:002012-10-30T17:16:23.270-04:00As Bob points out, small states have a disproporti...As Bob points out, small states have a disproportionate number of Senators, relative to their population. The same is true of Presidential electors, although to a lesser degree. The Republicans tend to do better in small states. Dems generally do better in large states. As a result, it's easier for a Republican to win the electoral vote while losing the popular vote than vice versa.David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-24352339823056312402012-10-30T17:07:56.425-04:002012-10-30T17:07:56.425-04:00It would surprise many how many of us are voting R...It would surprise many how many of us are voting Romney and (moderate to conservative) Democrats down ticket.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-50630579116459083712012-10-30T16:01:46.857-04:002012-10-30T16:01:46.857-04:00Assuming your thesis has some basis in fact and is...Assuming your thesis has some basis in fact and isn't just wishful thinking, it would be better for the country for Obama to deal with what he has been dealing with since 2008 rather than for Romney to have a chance to succeed in advancing the "Republican" agenda - whatever that is on any given day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com