tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post2580408380912663575..comments2024-03-28T05:37:00.890-04:00Comments on the daily howler: REPORTING MISSOURI AND YALE: And youth!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-76256610814081473772015-11-19T06:17:03.588-05:002015-11-19T06:17:03.588-05:00Report writing becomes easy when you actually cons...Report writing becomes easy when you actually considered such kind of the aspects more important to your nature and those will also bring more values to your part of resume. <a href="http://www.reportwritingservice.net/" rel="nofollow">report writing services</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-90062610935631283132015-11-19T05:46:37.821-05:002015-11-19T05:46:37.821-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Nickole Dinardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05435675622017105709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-63322006303356702172015-11-18T12:45:06.979-05:002015-11-18T12:45:06.979-05:00White guy here who was yelled at by every cop who ...White guy here who was yelled at by every cop who ever stopped me for a traffic violation. I did what they told me to do like a puss.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-14475898490443965122015-11-18T10:54:09.755-05:002015-11-18T10:54:09.755-05:00Is that a commenting semi-observation?Is that a commenting semi-observation?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-83197308232145124322015-11-18T09:00:06.941-05:002015-11-18T09:00:06.941-05:00Bob's audience has left the building.Bob's audience has left the building. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-57481834198101703402015-11-18T01:28:28.380-05:002015-11-18T01:28:28.380-05:00You would think a fiscal conservative, like DinC, ...You would think a fiscal conservative, like DinC, would be thrilled about the money we save not paying the police who won't do their job.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-60598153352685431572015-11-17T21:58:35.406-05:002015-11-17T21:58:35.406-05:00You think David's never had a traffic stop? He...You think David's never had a traffic stop? He's told us he was at a demonstration once. It's one thing to suggest that no white person can understand black experience, but you are showing some pretty extreme lack of understanding of white experience yourself. I think you are trolling since no one can be that stupid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-58467855645434892362015-11-17T21:54:07.140-05:002015-11-17T21:54:07.140-05:00Cops don't only yell at black people. They yel...Cops don't only yell at black people. They yell at whoever they are trying to get to do what they want. <br /><br />If you've watched any of the videos of police encounters, you will see black people yelling at cops. Is that violence too? Is it assaulting an officer? Not by law -- but maybe you think it should be? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-15771677200005220772015-11-17T20:16:16.016-05:002015-11-17T20:16:16.016-05:00Baltimore Sun reports:
Baltimore isn't just b...Baltimore Sun reports:<br /><br /><i>Baltimore isn't just back to 1990s-level homicide rates. It has surpassed them — and with a month and a half to go before the year's end.<br /><br />Given... the stack of killings that occurred in recent days, 2015 has officially become the deadliest year, per capita, in Baltimore history.<br /><br />There have been 21 homicides in November alone with nearly half the month left — continuing a <b>trend of more than a killing per day since the April death of Freddie Gray and the subsequent unrest.</b></i><br /><br />The higher rate of killings since the death of Freddie Gray is evidence of the "Feguson effect" in Baltimore. As Anon points out, there may be other reasons for a higher murder rate in some cities. E.g., in New York City, the Mayor ended the Stop-and-Frisk program, although the police said that it was an effective crime deterrant.David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79068492337150085672015-11-17T19:51:44.933-05:002015-11-17T19:51:44.933-05:00And another white guy heard of who has never been ...And another white guy heard of who has never been yelled at by a cop.<br /><br />But I'm sure you have a second cousin by marriage who has.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-47621534905835004892015-11-17T19:49:58.499-05:002015-11-17T19:49:58.499-05:00I always love it when Bob and his followers tell u...I always love it when Bob and his followers tell us what is "reasonable" in situations they've obviously never been it.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-34069227234012128352015-11-17T18:37:52.510-05:002015-11-17T18:37:52.510-05:00"Force" - "strength or power exerte..."Force" - "strength or power exerted upon an object; physical coercion; violence"<br /><br />I can imagine circumstances where some policeman shouts excessively. Nobody likes being shouted at. However, the word "physical" in the definition suggests to me that shouting doesn't constitute "force" or "excessive force". David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-80126183896862155672015-11-17T17:55:07.435-05:002015-11-17T17:55:07.435-05:00Ok - we can all agree that being screamed at is un...Ok - we can all agree that being screamed at is unpleasant, perhaps even emotionally triggering, but is it "force?" Most reasonable people would be inclined to say "no."majnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-52316986083003454672015-11-17T16:51:19.458-05:002015-11-17T16:51:19.458-05:00"Does it make sense to list "shouting&qu..."Does it make sense to list "shouting" among examples of "excessive force" by police? We'd be inclined to say no."<br /><br />Sure you would, Bob. You grew up white, upper middle class, then went to the Ivy League.<br /><br />Your only contact with people of color was a few years spent in a classroom in Baltimore, lording it over kids while dodging the draft which was not only your primary, but your only reason for teaching.<br /><br />Then bored with that, you turn to the comedy club circuit, where you attempted, probably without much success, to make largely white audiences laugh. And failing that, you turn to blogging, where you have found your own lilly-white, albeit tiny, tribe to talk to on a daily basis, some of them even hailing your genius.<br /><br />You have no idea what it is like to be driving home from a dinner and a movie through a white suburb, get pulled over for no reason at all, and screamed at by a cop for the "crime" of DWB.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-62626097526661188872015-11-17T15:36:32.248-05:002015-11-17T15:36:32.248-05:00The kid missed it by a country mile.
I'm skep...The kid missed it by a country mile.<br /><br />I'm skeptical of the world view judgements of 20-something year olds. Especially those who come from highly priviledged backgrounds. They're chosen for that work because they have a history of acquiescence to authority. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-80000738683876253942015-11-17T13:48:06.602-05:002015-11-17T13:48:06.602-05:00In the fraught, fairly fraught, or highly fraught ...In the fraught, fairly fraught, or highly fraught atmosphere of 2015, a recently released report by the DOJ using statistics from 2011 is timely, fairly timely, or highly timely.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-53932011058911462352015-11-17T13:19:52.343-05:002015-11-17T13:19:52.343-05:00I'm not buying your crap, troll. Bob is only ...I'm not buying your crap, troll. Bob is only on the prologue here in Part 2, and based on the "lessons from Mizzou" Somerby taught us in the preview post last week, and the fact that this cluelessness reminds us of 1692, as we learned in Part 1, I'd say your prediction the series will last too long is getting old.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-36299117350304922132015-11-17T13:03:29.136-05:002015-11-17T13:03:29.136-05:00Bob, writing at a "fraught time", gets r...Bob, writing at a "fraught time", gets ready to use age as a major player in a series which may seem to some, perhaps many, to last too long. <br /><br />That said, do you, the reader, hypothesize who or what Bob will blame when he writes at a "highly" fraught time? How about when he writes at at a "rather" fraught time.<br /><br />I would hypothesize that old people, writing at a stressful time, constantly focus on the youth of others because of their fear of death.<br /><br />Of course some might think I am old. Others might call me middle aged. Or somewhat middle aged. Or younger. Some, if there are any, might find me young, or fairly young. Still otherws might find all these modifiers fuzzy, which to me is a fairly lazy reaction.<br /><br />I'll restate my hypothesis. Only a lonely old coot. writing near the bitter end of a failed career, constantly portrays youth as a flaw.<br /><br />Of course that is ridiculous for me to suggest. Still. the blogger is on the oldish side, and these times are called the golden years by some and the downhill slide by others.<br /><br />Many a very old person, at a foggy time, could think this negative focus on youth is anything but sad for others to read.<br /><br />At times when they go slack, old bloggers, and many of their old followers, may be inclined to make preposterous claims and reach judgments which are way out of whack.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-91679626820897954622015-11-17T12:34:46.713-05:002015-11-17T12:34:46.713-05:00In Los Angeles, the increase in crime is beung att...In Los Angeles, the increase in crime is beung attributed to increased gang activity. You need more than a simple increase in the homicide rate to establish that a Ferguson effect is causing it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-71072530794131617672015-11-17T12:30:57.143-05:002015-11-17T12:30:57.143-05:00So, police are not patrolling with their usual &qu...So, police are not patrolling with their usual "vigor". This is what is referred to in labor as a "work slowdown". This can have nothing to do with fears by police of perceived police brutality and everything to do with police officers holding the public that they serve hostage to their demands for less oversight. You would think that the police themselves would be the first to call for citizen oversight to root out the bad apples. Apparently, this is not the case.Dave the Guitar Playernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-74834525136597108292015-11-17T10:59:23.291-05:002015-11-17T10:59:23.291-05:00Reporting that falsely impugns the police is part ...Reporting that falsely impugns the police is part of a dynamic that has led to the murder of dozens or hundreds of people. Police are not patrolling with their usual vigor. Since the furors over the deaths of several black people at the hands of police, the murder rate in the inner cities has gone up pretty sharply. E.g., the BBC reported<br /><br /><i>Murder and violent crime rates have risen in multiple US cities since the beginning of 2015, after falling for two decades. Some have put this down to a so-called Ferguson effect, referring to the protests against perceived police brutality, that sometimes became violent. Could that be true?<br />What do the statistics say?<br />There are no national figures on crime in the US available yet for 2015, but some cities have released their own figures.<br />In New York City, the murder rate has gone up by 20% in 2015 compared with the first few months of 2014. Mayor Bill de Blasio called a special news conference at which he acknowledged the increase, but said it could be contained. He said he had faith in the New York Police Department that they will "turn the tide".<br />In other cities, there are similar increases reported. In Baltimore, murders are up 37% and in Los Angeles, violent crime is up by 27% (although murders are down 2%). In Houston, murders are up nearly 50% so far this year....<br /><br />[The Ferguson Effect] is a term coined by St Louis Police Chief Sam Dotson, whose police officers had been one of the forces dealing with the summer protests and riots in Ferguson, Missouri, following the fatal shooting of black teenager Michael Brown.<br />He said in November his police officers had been drawing back from everyday enforcement due to fears they could be charged. As a result, he said, the "criminal element is feeling empowered".</i><br />http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-32995911David in Calnoreply@blogger.com