tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post2754318490883908837..comments2024-03-28T21:42:44.372-04:00Comments on the daily howler: AS SEEN BY OTHERS: Gods reveal Catalonian plan!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-36138884957654165872017-10-26T20:13:54.446-04:002017-10-26T20:13:54.446-04:00Somerby keeps getting stranger and stranger.Somerby keeps getting stranger and stranger.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-81016283431534647422017-10-26T15:26:32.787-04:002017-10-26T15:26:32.787-04:00When Mao was still a toddler in St. Petersburg (or...When Mao was still a toddler in St. Petersburg (or was it Leningrad in those days) in 1992, the right wing slime media was attacking Hillary incessantly. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-4475131816148595212017-10-26T15:15:45.593-04:002017-10-26T15:15:45.593-04:00"in the race toward the bottom", you win..."in the race toward the bottom", you win, comrade.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-89366168372008718302017-10-26T14:53:23.217-04:002017-10-26T14:53:23.217-04:00@12:24 PM -yet another nonsensical non-sequitur fr...@12:24 PM -yet another nonsensical non-sequitur from the Russian troll farm. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-89560514356106727542017-10-26T14:18:30.479-04:002017-10-26T14:18:30.479-04:00WTF does that mean? The "hate-filled sanctim...WTF does that mean? The "hate-filled sanctimonious lefty zombies" just got stomped by the bankers and other financial service institutions. <br />Trump has thrilled his followers by making the "hate-filled sanctimonious lefty zombies" eat the EPA's rollback of anti-pollution measures. <br />Conservatives have been crushing the "hate-filled sanctimonious lefty zombies", or what the rest of us call the "citizens of the United States of America".Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00363187757246791754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-71650014560625795572017-10-26T14:02:37.473-04:002017-10-26T14:02:37.473-04:00"Happy to hear denigrating views?" Isn&#..."Happy to hear denigrating views?" Isn't that what We're now like, Over Here in Our tribe? Was Dr. King ever like that? Would that have described Mandela? Lincoln? The Buddha?"<br /><br />Somerby is talking about journalists, pundits, opinion writers, etc, and comparing them to a moral leader ( Dr. King), two influential politicians (Lincoln/ Mandela), and for some unknown reason, a mystic prophet/teacher from the 5th century BCE (Buddha).<br />Spiritual leaders have one set of priorities, political leaders have another, and journalists (" the media") have yet another. Asking Raphael Minder or some "unnamed tribalist" (why unnamed?) to emulate these historical figures is ridiculous, just as it's ridiculous to ask MLK to act like a journalist or politician. In other words, a journalist in the 1950s- 60s could examine the depth and effects of racism in the south, an op-Ed writer could excoriate the racists who wanted to keep nine black youths from attending Little Rock Central high; their efforts contributed to Dr. King's cause, just as King needed a supremely political politician like LBJ to force civil rights legislation through a reluctant Congress.<br />One might examine the cases of John Brown or Harriet Beecher Stowe. Brown was an abolitionist extremist, having committed murder in service of his cause, which he viewed as righteous. Stowe wrote Uncle Tom's Cabin, a stinging indictment of slavery. Neither were interested in "both-siderism."<br />Without the partisan fervor engendered by Brown and Stowe and many other unnamed "tribalists", Lincoln could never have mustered enough troops to fight and die in the Union cause. He needed those moral and, yes, "tribal" voices in order to successfully prosecute the war. And once the war started, Lincoln was absolutely committed to the total destruction of the southern army. It was only after this that Lincoln formulated his enlightened and charitable views on reconstruction.<br /><br />And as far as religious leaders go, why not mention Jesus? He spends a lot of time railing against the Pharisees, the moneychangers in the temple, and the generation of vipers that he saw around him. Sounds like "denigration of others" to me. So perhaps moral judgments ARE appropriate after all?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-77075139251504528952017-10-26T12:25:54.042-04:002017-10-26T12:25:54.042-04:00In the race toward the bottom, the hate-filled san...In the race toward the bottom, the hate-filled sanctimonious lefty zombies do appear to be winning.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-26399786134625935592017-10-26T12:25:05.263-04:002017-10-26T12:25:05.263-04:00Yes, the anti-establishment orange shitstain pussy...Yes, the anti-establishment orange shitstain pussygrabbing traitor just gave a big sloppy wet kiss to Wall Street and is pushing for lobbyist whore Ed Gillespie in his run for Guv of VA. Keep selling that snake oil to the rubes, Boris.mmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-14602417929241598562017-10-26T12:24:07.054-04:002017-10-26T12:24:07.054-04:00If there is any trend history consistently proves ...If there is any trend history consistently proves doomed it is the trend toward Marxism and other forms of communism and oppression. The demise of this country will be one more example. "Multiculturalism" will hasten its failure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-15623145630164043412017-10-26T12:09:52.585-04:002017-10-26T12:09:52.585-04:00"In part, could his rating be that high becau..."In part, could his rating be that high because of the way your tribe is seen?"<br /><br />Correct. But it's not just "your tribe"; after all he defeated a shitload of Republicans too. So, it's "your tribe" and "the other tribe", both; it's the whole establishment. <br /><br />These days, however, "your tribe" of hate-filled sanctimonious liberal zombies certainly appears to be the most obnoxious by far.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-26726999364113053862017-10-26T11:48:59.151-04:002017-10-26T11:48:59.151-04:00Somerby mocks Llivia because it was classified as ...Somerby mocks Llivia because it was classified as a Town and not a Village, but such designations mattered in a time of city-states. The formation of nations was a phenomenon accompanied by strife and allegiances, not to countries but to towns. Ha ha ha, this is so funny!<br /><br />Now we are in a similar struggle to form larger geographic units from smaller ones, trade organizations from nations, more global affiliations. Trump is evidence of reactionary resistance to the emerging trend, which makes sense in terms of distribution of resources. History will prove him wrong but we must suffer his throes in the meantime.<br /><br />Somerby thinks the difficulties people have adjusting to change are somehow evil, when he is not mocking them. They are natural. We need to ease the pain, but we cannot stop change because people show distress. <br /><br />I am very happy that Somerby lives on the East Coast and I am on the West Coast. I know I wouldn't like him much if I were to encounter him in real life. He needs to think more and type a great deal less. We know he has a very good brain because his elite school taught him about an obscure treaty!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-54682307246623187622017-10-26T11:25:38.766-04:002017-10-26T11:25:38.766-04:00I don't know if ad hominem hurts or helps but ...I don't know if ad hominem hurts or helps but it certainly is the order of the day here and it was with more regret than Rancor that I have to say that Bob Somerby is a turnip. 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