tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post2866626855127050762..comments2024-03-28T12:00:43.407-04:00Comments on the daily howler: Supplemental: To Trevor Noah, it doesn’t make sense!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger69125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-66593935690890648872021-01-13T14:51:20.199-05:002021-01-13T14:51:20.199-05:00Hello everyone I want to introduce you guys to a g...Hello everyone I want to introduce you guys to a group a private investigators who can help you with information you need in any situation in life and they are ready to follow you step by step until your case is cleared just contact +17078685071 and you will happily ever after <br />Premiumhackservices@gmail.comDavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15707286545902034421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-39599537772776101642020-09-16T17:44:53.827-04:002020-09-16T17:44:53.827-04:00I was so anxiuos to know what my husband was alway...I was so anxiuos to know what my husband was always doing late outside the house so i started contacting hackers and was scamed severly until i almost gave up then i contacted this one hacker and he delivered a good job showing evidences i needed from the apps on his phone like whatsapp,facebook,instagram and others and i went ahead to file my divorce papers with the evidences i got,He also went ahead to get me back some of my lost money i sent to those other fake hackers,every dollar i spent on these jobs was worth it.Contact him so he also help you.<br />mail: premiumhackservices@gmail.com<br />text or call +1 4016006790Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17641694205083699589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-44036247834438296962015-08-01T04:52:30.520-04:002015-08-01T04:52:30.520-04:00@8:54 Can you spell out your argument on how havin...@8:54 Can you spell out your argument on how having an iPhone (ie dough) takes away your credibility as a critic of capitalism? Lots of detail, please.<br />Also, good to hear that hipsters are on board. I figured they'd be for free-range banking.Mememehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16747888302727869176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-67637008136183010512015-07-30T20:54:48.092-04:002015-07-30T20:54:48.092-04:00Says you and other occupy hipsters typing from you...Says you and other occupy hipsters typing from your iPhones.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-29859218021820200512015-07-30T15:23:33.278-04:002015-07-30T15:23:33.278-04:00We are sorry @ 12:44, but we made a mistake. You ...We are sorry @ 12:44, but we made a mistake. You are not good enough yet to be in the One Day League.<br /><br />Please, in the future do post until 24 hours have passed since the original comment you respond to appears.<br /><br />Tutoring is available at cicero's online college of vanity blog commentary. Perhaps if you improve you can come back and post earlier. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-59331604561316704542015-07-30T14:39:55.280-04:002015-07-30T14:39:55.280-04:00Stand your ground against bankers and Wall Street....Stand your ground against bankers and Wall Street. <br />I'm tired of these thugs always getting away with it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-8467106864518978042015-07-30T13:25:11.879-04:002015-07-30T13:25:11.879-04:00The analysis even extends to Willie being the firs...The analysis even extends to Willie being the first black POTUS. <br /><br />Bill Clinton: "I Loved Being Called The First Black President"<br /><br />http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/04/03/bill_clinton_i_loved_being_called_the_first_black_president.htmlcicerohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12472612909567425204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-84899686154227027302015-07-30T12:44:51.298-04:002015-07-30T12:44:51.298-04:002:09 is a racist. He thinks he isn't but he is...2:09 is a racist. He thinks he isn't but he is. He thinks labeling others as such disguises his racism, but it doesn't. We know he is a racist because he is white. What a hypocrite you are, 2:09, you racist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-17646260996400279702015-07-30T12:42:43.912-04:002015-07-30T12:42:43.912-04:00Paglia is fantastic.Paglia is fantastic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-90498933034156355292015-07-30T12:40:49.867-04:002015-07-30T12:40:49.867-04:00The menacing "kid" is dead because his p...The menacing "kid" is dead because his parents never taught him not to glare at people and walk around their trucks, and later violently attack them as they are reporting the antisocial and suspicious behavior to the police..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-69883805174000321472015-07-30T12:37:52.990-04:002015-07-30T12:37:52.990-04:00What a load. If Martin had claimed self defense h...What a load. If Martin had claimed self defense he would have to deal with the four minutes and his claim would fail on that basis. If he attacked Zimmerman sooner and the four minutes had not elapsed, there would be phone call evidence and he would stand a chance of acquittal. As it is, the evidence showed Martin chose to attack someone after provoking him by glaring at him and circling his truck earlier. He didn't realize his victim had a gun. Fortunately Zimmerman was armed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-4491528651444597482015-07-30T12:23:07.200-04:002015-07-30T12:23:07.200-04:00Thanks to two of the above commenters for mentioni...Thanks to two of the above commenters for mentioning "Get a Life" and "Dog Pee Won't Stop Santorum."<br /><br />By way of disclosure, or maybe confession, I need to get a life. Like Bob Somerby, I watch too much cable news. I find it very difficult to follow FOX and MSNBC at the same time, much less CNN. It makes me appreciate Bob's complaints about the delay in transcripts.<br /><br />But I just want to go on the record. Rachel has been given a very unfair time slot. She follows "Hardball" and "All In."<br />No much news is generated during that time of day. so she is working with material they have first crack at. The only way she can make her show interesting is to bring something different and she uses humor.<br /><br />I thought the "Dog Pee Won't Stop Santorum" story was hilarious. I can understand why he used it as a campaign speech. I understand why the headline was funny. And given his "man on dog" sex comment and the subsequent Goggle bomb, I even understand why someone with Maddow's wicked sense of humor found making it a URL was clever.<br /><br />I also now have a better idea why Somerby had to go into blogging. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-19148232927084211542015-07-30T12:04:48.399-04:002015-07-30T12:04:48.399-04:00The reality is that by using a sarcastic term to r...The reality is that by using a sarcastic term to refer to a dead teenager 11:16 proves, in his mind, black lives don't matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-68871546776533894852015-07-30T11:47:53.282-04:002015-07-30T11:47:53.282-04:00Why do you keep peeing on Bob's leg? He doesn...Why do you keep peeing on Bob's leg? He doesn't share any views of Rick Santorum. He would not vote for Rick Santorum. But peeing on his leg won't stop him. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-6473808045512603312015-07-30T11:47:10.902-04:002015-07-30T11:47:10.902-04:00"St. Skittles was back at his own front door ..."St. Skittles was back at his own front door talking to his girl-friend on the phone, by her own admission, before he went back to confront or perhaps "jump" Z-man."<br /><br />Wow! I guess the Zimmerman Defense Team gets to make up its own reality now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-71662826311408990652015-07-30T11:38:31.290-04:002015-07-30T11:38:31.290-04:00@ 2:26 I was raised in middle class white American...@ 2:26 I was raised in middle class white American culture. One of the first "norms" inculcated in children is the scary guy stalking you at night.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-67907188793711748932015-07-30T11:30:56.540-04:002015-07-30T11:30:56.540-04:00What a GREAT response. So informative. So ORIGINAL...What a GREAT response. So informative. So ORIGINAL! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-3883942213422889452015-07-30T11:24:33.520-04:002015-07-30T11:24:33.520-04:00Let's take your suggestion 10:05 and throw in ...Let's take your suggestion 10:05 and throw in some hypotheticals. (I always like to oblige Bob by bringing out his buddies from Team Zimm)<br /><br />We have to assume Trayvon did not run after killing the neighborhood watchman (who was armed only with a pistol and doing a job on behalf of his neighborhood while on the way to the store...instead or returning from it). We also have to assume the police, already on their way, did not see Trayvon standing above a body, holding a gun and shoot him dead on the spot.<br /><br />Those are two big assumptions you have to make before Trayvon can plead anything.<br /><br />The case of a black boy on suspension from school shooting a neighborhood watchman doing his duty is not going to attract much attention. Unless the DA decides to go for the death penalty. He will have to get Trayvon certified as an adult, which he will use Trayvon's iffy school records, texts, and thuggish clothes in so doing.<br /><br />Absent national attention Trayvon Martin will get the best legal defense his truck driver father and bureaucrat mother can afford. Trayvon's parents are not likely to be able to afford the best legal help. <br /><br />The lawyer may convince the kid to plead down. The lawyer's leverage with the DA would be the comments on the Zimmerman/Police Dispatcher tapes. This assumes anyone finds out about the tapes and the lawyer is given access to them.<br /><br />Trayvon or the DA (more likely the DA...he's a Republican) refuses a plea deal and the case goes to trial. Trayvon pleads self defense. <br /><br />A jury of 12 will be selected and it will likely look very much like the 6 selected in the Zimmerman trial.<br /><br />Since Martin shoots Zimmerman there is likely no prolonged scuffle so neighborhood witnesses will be few and far between if any exist at all. The only witness Martin will be able to call to prove he felt threatened will be the girl he spoke to on the phone, Rachel Jeantel. <br /><br />Trayvon could testify himself, probably against his lawyer's advice. My guess is the first question out of the DA's mouth would be "How long have you been smoking marijuana?"<br /><br />A parade of neighbors will be brought to the stand to portray George Zimmerman as the helpful young fellow who started the neighborhood watch program. The woman who had the home invasion and was comforted by Zimmerman will draw riveted attention from the jury.<br /><br />The fact is the legal grounds for Martin to get off on a self defense claim are the same as those available to Zimmerman. The difference is that Martin, unlike Zimmerman, would never have been allowed to walk away from the police station the night of the killing if he ever got to the police station alive. The only people with the knowledge that Zimmerman was a neighborhood wanna be cop with a questionable past would be the police, and the degree to which that past was ever discovered would depend on the quality and aggressiveness of the lawyer Martin's parents hired.<br /><br />You want another hypothetical? If Zimmerman and Martin were both the same race, black or white, virtually nobody outside central Florida would have ever have heard of this case at all.<br /><br />You want my final hypothetical? If Zimmerman was black and Martin had been white you wouldn't have heard of the case either. But Zimmerman would be in jail. Convicted at a minimum of manslaughter.<br /><br />Because when you get right down to it, race is a huge variable in society and criminal justice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-12600700646375034732015-07-30T11:16:31.681-04:002015-07-30T11:16:31.681-04:00@10:05 & @11:08 simply need to read the court ...@10:05 & @11:08 simply need to read the court transcripts. St. Skittles was back at his own front door talking to his girl-friend on the phone, by her own admission, before he went back to confront or perhaps "jump" Z-man. Or you can believe the narrative you made up or was spoon fed to you by your favorite biased news source.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-47606769862451869972015-07-30T11:08:03.214-04:002015-07-30T11:08:03.214-04:00So it's not murder when a guy grabs a gun, cha...So it's not murder when a guy grabs a gun, chases an unarmed kid, then shoots him when he tries to defend himself.<br /><br />But it is murder if the guy being chased has got a gun too. Funny how those "Stand Your Ground" laws work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-60723046290924334322015-07-30T10:56:35.975-04:002015-07-30T10:56:35.975-04:00What is WRONG with you? Get a life!What is WRONG with you? Get a life!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-31690836285399284892015-07-30T10:55:07.300-04:002015-07-30T10:55:07.300-04:00No. It would be murder.No. It would be murder.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-59280929077503836262015-07-30T10:31:57.619-04:002015-07-30T10:31:57.619-04:00Dead horse beating advances progressive causes. Or...Dead horse beating advances progressive causes. Or is it waving the bloody Trayvon hoodie is part of our Howler heritage? We don't know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-59079667763628860612015-07-30T10:27:11.613-04:002015-07-30T10:27:11.613-04:00Is 3:37 a bit of an idiot, as AC/MA suggests, or i...Is 3:37 a bit of an idiot, as AC/MA suggests, or is he perhaps mistakenly asking if Somerby being a bit of a bigot instead of asking is Somerby is simply something of an obsessed jerk?<br /><br />The reason why I ask is that Somerby seems to have two favorite news targets above all others, Salon and Maddow. And he seems to have one death he constantly brings back up...the tragic senseless killing of Trayvon Martin. <br /><br />He has habit of trying to destroy the credibility of his targets when their errors run counter to his memes, then use their work when they reinforce those memes. This attack on Trevor Noah does just that.<br /><br />He quickly focuses on the error of associating Martin's death with the police. He notes it came from Salon, but passes by his disclaimer and uses the piece to tell us how Noah "seems" to feel. Here is a review of the same event from AP available to Somerby for use in checking the accuracy of Salon's two TV critics. It didn't quite reinforce the picture Somerby wished to paint of Noah the hack.<br /><br />http://www.denverpost.com/outdoors/ci_28554327/trevor-noah-takes-racism-skips-politics-standup-gig<br /><br />"Now, I don't know how not to die. Because every time I turn on the news, another black person has been killed for seemingly fewer and fewer reasonable reasons," he said, starting with the <strong>non-police shooting of teenager Trayvon Martin</strong> in Florida.<br /><br />... Noah mimicked a TV news commentator: "Who was this young boy ... and why was he wearing a hoodie? What was he doing in this neighborhood wearing a hoodie?"<br /><br />If the lesson was to avoid wearing hoodies while black, Noah said, it was rewritten with the deaths of Michael Brown in Missouri ("He didn't have a hoodie. He approached a police officer") and again with Walter Scott in South Carolina ("Running away from a policeman, he got shot five times in the back")."<br /><br />Or perhaps Somerby could have checked the review from USA Today:<br /><br />"He discussed the long list of news stories about the deaths of black men, such as Trayvon Martin, and a number who died at the hands of police, including Michael Brown, Eric Garner and Walter Scott.<br />_________<br /><br />"He figuratively scratched his head regarding Scott, a man shot running from a police officer in South Carolina. "There is nothing less threatening than a person running away from you."<br /><br />http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2015/07/29/6-things-we-learned-daily-show-host---trevor-noahs-standup-act/30819453/<br /><br />I have no idea if, witnessing this performance in person, I too would have come away with a slightly different view of what Noah said or whether I would have found it funny. But I note in both reviews Noah is not portrayed saying Martin died at the hands of police.<br /><br />Somerby found the Salon version useful to his meme, and used it as a segue to whip on another Salon writer, who he says "almost makes it sound like Martin was killed by police" when clearly the writer does not.<br /><br />Somerby then returns to take a poke at Noah, writing, 'Wherever incipient TV stars dwell, Noah feels he’s seeing more reports of wanton police killings. It doesn’t occur to him that this may...." Somerby has absolutely no earthly idea what does or does not occur to Trevor Noah. He has no reason whatsoever to return to him. Except to set up his next segue, the refutation of the "deathers by Ta-Nehisi Coates, which, of course, uses the killing of Martin by George Zimmerman. Somerby's own "perfect example."<br /><br />Yes, Somerby mentions the Brown killing in Missouri, but notice he skips the Garner case and the Scott case. Do a check on those two cases in Somerby's archives and compare them to Trayvon Martin. <br /><br />Is Trevor Noah a bit of a hack? Is Bob Somerby a deceptively dishonest one?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79091316671190568832015-07-30T10:14:25.088-04:002015-07-30T10:14:25.088-04:00Silly boy. Bob's traffic count is lagging so i...Silly boy. Bob's traffic count is lagging so it's time to bring out the Zimmerman Defense Team again.<br /><br />After all, dead horses can never be beaten enough on The Daily Howler.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com