tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post2979422532568137399..comments2024-03-29T03:56:03.736-04:00Comments on the daily howler: IMITATIONS OF LIFE: Lawrence O'Donnell flips on Mitt!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-86962675629436954152022-02-10T10:54:49.441-05:002022-02-10T10:54:49.441-05:009:27,
The entire Right does. Should we dismiss wh...9:27,<br />The entire Right does. Should we dismiss what "the Others" think, because you don't agree?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-16242517946679833532022-02-10T09:27:03.699-05:002022-02-10T09:27:03.699-05:00A claim those who were arrested are being treated ...A claim those who were arrested are being treated unfairly is completely fair. Don't forget, not everyone advocates for censorship the way you do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-4079168187010911762022-02-10T09:24:46.520-05:002022-02-10T09:24:46.520-05:00Did Trump really claim there was no violence? Soun...Did Trump really claim there was no violence? Sounds like one of those aforementioned novelized tales. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-15201431109606753602022-02-09T17:28:27.256-05:002022-02-09T17:28:27.256-05:00Bob was talking about the 2012 election and the th...Bob was talking about the 2012 election and the things that O'Donell said about Romney back then.Ilyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09520998225031485048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79071447671299780852022-02-09T17:04:35.978-05:002022-02-09T17:04:35.978-05:00Anon at 11:24…..another good catch, let’s hope it’...Anon at 11:24…..another good catch, let’s hope it’s merely very sloppy work and not hitting the bottle. Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-34016671719814219352022-02-09T16:54:01.612-05:002022-02-09T16:54:01.612-05:00Good catch Unknown, but this time it’s not really ...Good catch Unknown, but this time it’s not really a back door. It’s a ploy, that will only fool the likes of Bob, whose real aim is to fool others. Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-58134745841680192362022-02-09T16:46:39.128-05:002022-02-09T16:46:39.128-05:00It's not the world's fault you can't u...It's not the world's fault you can't understand. It would make sense if you <i>disagreed</i>. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-30116879651876051402022-02-09T16:20:56.797-05:002022-02-09T16:20:56.797-05:00We should also note President Trump has gone far b...We should also note President Trump has gone far beyond “legitimate political discourse.” He has claimed there was no violence, that those who were arrested are being treated unfairly, etc…..Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-31463563655781195482022-02-09T16:17:16.909-05:002022-02-09T16:17:16.909-05:00If the Republicans hadn’t said it ( Bob’s hopeless...If the Republicans hadn’t said it ( Bob’s hopelessly shakey contention) they wouldn’t have had to walk it back in the examples Bob gives. <br /> If Bob wants to give the Republicans a full pass for the walk back, that’s not surprising. He’s a full grown adult with a horrible sense of judgement. The more he name calls, generally, the shakier the claim he is trying to pass off. <br /> There were some interesting moments on MSNBC last night, including a disagreement on the Crumbly case. Bob cuts right to a familiar grudge. Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-4514531825368778742022-02-09T14:02:22.544-05:002022-02-09T14:02:22.544-05:00If Bob wanted our media to report things fully and...If Bob wanted our media to report things fully and accurately, he would be questioning why they call the former President "Donald Trump" and not "self-admitted sexual predator Donald Trump" in their news reports.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-40184826645053634422022-02-09T13:46:32.875-05:002022-02-09T13:46:32.875-05:00That is bs. That isn’t at all what he is asking. T...That is bs. That isn’t at all what he is asking. The statement and it’s so-called “clarification” were fully reported and the texts of both are publicly available. The important extra step of pointing out the duplicitousness of the tactic goes above and beyond the mere passive reporting of texts that are publicly available. Somerby denounces this. mhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08937133532381705347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-88355513457855551002022-02-09T13:29:32.202-05:002022-02-09T13:29:32.202-05:00This post is merely a request the facts about the ...This post is merely a request the facts about the tactic/clarification be reported accurately.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-41330506345135620522022-02-09T13:26:31.551-05:002022-02-09T13:26:31.551-05:00He's not asking that you accept anything. Just...He's not asking that you accept anything. Just that the incident be reported fully and accurately. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-56398674579436197212022-02-09T12:53:08.705-05:002022-02-09T12:53:08.705-05:00“It could not have been a more inappropriate messa...“It could not have been a more inappropriate message, …so far from accurate as to shock and to make people wonder what we're thinking."<br /><br />Spoken by Mitt Romney about the RNC censure. Is he a liberal clown? What could lead him to make these comments? What about Cheney and Kinzinger?<br /><br />While Trump is dangling pardons for those arrested for crimes on Jan 6, the RNC issues its statement. There was no mention of who was being persecuted by the Jan 6 committee, nor no mention of denouncing the violence that day. <br /><br />One wonders how Republicans like Stefanik can claim they denounce the Jan 6 violence, but then also denounce the committee and its two GOP members trying to investigate the causes and the people responsible for that violence. <br /><br />The age old tactic of saying one thing and then afterwards claiming that isn’t what you meant is called “equivocation”, and Somerby gives life and support to it here. <br /><br />The implication of the original RNC statement was clear, clear enough that it passed unchanged with <i>unanimous assent</i>. <br /><br />But Somerby is demanding a passive liberal party that accepts this duplicity without a word. So much for informing the public about tactics being used by the disingenuous elites of the Other party, and so much for investigating the events of that day and those leading up to it, at least as far as Republicans are concerned. mhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08937133532381705347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-50488935583710347142022-02-09T11:56:47.153-05:002022-02-09T11:56:47.153-05:00“But on Monday night, there he was, criticizing Mc...“But on Monday night, there he was, criticizing McDaniel for flipping on Mitt even as he himself was flipping on Mitt in the most obvious way.”<br /><br />There is no evidence of O’Donnell “flipping on Mitt.”<br /><br />This is what O’Donnell said about Romney:<br /><br />“Mitt Romney said the right thing. “<br />And:<br /><br />“once again, Senator Mitt Romney stands almost alone among Republicans, elective Republicans, current elected Republicans and opposition to the most recent public display of insanity by the Republican Party.”<br /><br />That hardly sounds as though “Mitt qualified as Lawrence's hero because of something he'd said.”<br /><br />Far from it. <br /><br />And he can be right about Ronna McDaniel regardless of his former “meltdowns” (an irrelevant thing for Somerby to bring up, although it serves to ridicule O’Donnell) and regardless of Somerby’s antipathy towards O’Donnell. mhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08937133532381705347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-80517397572896312352022-02-09T11:29:27.745-05:002022-02-09T11:29:27.745-05:00"In that pitiful paraphrase, the propagandiza..."In that pitiful paraphrase, the propagandization by the stars of our dying tribe has basically become total. You can't get more false than that."<br /><br />This is how I feel about Somerby's invocation of some very performative but unnamed feminist who supposedly has attacked Ronna McDaniel over her name. I similarly do not think it is Somerby's place to tell us who our feminists are, performative or not. When I hear the word feminist, I don't think of any cable news host. <br /><br />But the sheer dishonest of Somerby's incompete pejorative labeling of someone unspeificed, as if that were all he needs to do to tar the left with a swear word such as feminist. Lazy and incompetent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-5547021910425467022022-02-09T11:24:37.491-05:002022-02-09T11:24:37.491-05:00"They displayed discomfort when our most perf..."They displayed discomfort when our most performative feminist went after McDaniel's name change. "<br /><br />Somerby says this right after knocking Hillary, but Hillary hasn't said anything about Ronna McDaniel's name change. Who is Somerby referring to her as the most performative feminist? Is it supposed to be Maddow, or is he calling Lawrence O'Donnell our most performative feminist?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-77025073287033622752022-02-09T11:20:35.004-05:002022-02-09T11:20:35.004-05:00Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.
Bwahahaha!!! You ...Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.<br /><br />Bwahahaha!!! You must be so proud.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-18392826756229792632022-02-09T11:19:13.334-05:002022-02-09T11:19:13.334-05:00"They" refers to Somerby's made-up a..."They" refers to Somerby's made-up analysts. He shifts his opinions off onto others whenever he can. Heaven forbid he should ever take responsibility for his own statements. In this case, we all know that Somerby's hangups over women are his own problem, not any fictitious analysts, not any poet or songwriter either. His.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-90718801782204060862022-02-09T11:17:04.672-05:002022-02-09T11:17:04.672-05:00"They couldn't help thinking of the way H..."They couldn't help thinking of the way Hillary Clinton had changed her name, at least two separate times, to serve political ends. "<br /><br />Here we see more of Somerby's trademark dislike of Hillary, as he takes a snipe at her (and she isn't even running for anything this time).<br /><br />First, McDaniel changed her name for political gain when she retained her Romney association, and again when she dropped it because of Trump's dislike of Romney. Hillary didn't add Rodham for political reasons, but for feminist ones, to maintain a distinct work identity separate from Bill Clinton by retaining her maiden name. Second, she dropped it in order to distance herself from feminism and move more to the center socially speaking. She ALWAYS HAD the name Clinton, she had already been first lady as a Clinton, and she had established her own political identity, so dropping Rodham prevented voters from mistaking who she was. She didn't borrow any glory by addeding a name as Ronna did, nor did she avoid any political association by dropped her maiden name. <br /><br />Somerby misses the very different motivations involved in the two different women's choices. Hillary's choices were arguably not political at all. But Somerby is clueless about what name choices mean to women and certainly has no idea about feminist implications of keeping one's original name in the early 70s. <br /><br />But here we see that Somerby cannot avoid a potshot at Hillary. What liberal derides his own nominee for president, even when it was so urgent to beat Trump? None. And now we see hints of the animosity lurking in Somerby's psyche. There is no political motive in this situation, but Somerby sees one (or manufactures one in his own mind) in order to say something bad about her. And this his been tiresome when she was a candidate, and is even more tiresome now that she is out of the public eye. And this kind of shit is why women of both parties have a harder time in politics than men.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-87663095119164339242022-02-09T11:14:09.669-05:002022-02-09T11:14:09.669-05:00The republican party has used this tactic for ages...The republican party has used this tactic for ages. Make an outrageous statement, but leave a back door to establish plausible deniability. But by then the damage is done. The trumpies will be convinced "their" republican party supports the rioters and they won't pay any attention to the "clarification". Why do you fall for it, Bob?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12942003215686394335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-56111361912420788512022-02-09T10:16:27.450-05:002022-02-09T10:16:27.450-05:00"The propagandization was general on blue tri..."The propagandization was general on blue tribe cable last night."<br /><br />Meh. <i>Every</i> night, dear Bob. <br /><br />Every night and every day. 24x7, for decades now. <br /><br />Otherwise, as always: thank you, dear Bob, for documenting this teeny-tiny minor portion of the latest liberal atrocities...<br /><br />Oh, and by the way: the least worst new network informs us that "<i>nearly 40 Republican lawmakers are calling on President Biden, 79, to take a cognitive test, following the example set by his predecessor, former President Donald Trump.</i>"<br />https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republicans-urge-biden-cognitive-test-assume-worst<br /><br />We're guessing there's not a word in your dembot media. Does it make you upset, dear Bob? ...because we remember it bothered you greatly a couple of years ago...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com