tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post3021278399086610600..comments2024-03-29T03:56:03.736-04:00Comments on the daily howler: Demonization watch: Presidents Clinton and Obama!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-16231258962575058392016-05-26T14:04:30.763-04:002016-05-26T14:04:30.763-04:00I think one of the cable heroes Bob is not fond of...I think one of the cable heroes Bob is not fond of had one of those two favorite Somerby authors on his show recently to promote the website Caro mentioned. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-80248256345801870222016-05-26T12:04:42.984-04:002016-05-26T12:04:42.984-04:00Rachel, is that you?Rachel, is that you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-38827380380459006402016-05-26T11:58:17.722-04:002016-05-26T11:58:17.722-04:00The dozen or so remaining Somerby readers will nev...The dozen or so remaining Somerby readers will never forget "The Hunting of the President."<br /><br />They know if Bob had a partner like those two fellas, he might have gotten past Chapter 6 and finished a whole darn book.Lois Gibbsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-21222868031700548182016-05-26T11:43:10.671-04:002016-05-26T11:43:10.671-04:00I guess ever since W left they don't have anyo...I guess ever since W left they don't have anyone to drink an imaginary beer with.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-14208787160712549122016-05-26T11:28:12.609-04:002016-05-26T11:28:12.609-04:00Don't forget Joe Conason and Gene Lyons' T...Don't forget Joe Conason and Gene Lyons' The Hunting of the President, which documents many of the awful abuses of that time. They've created an excerpt of the craziness directed at Hillary that's available for download without charge. - http://bit.ly/1MMXxTrCarohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01372850688572724835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-883943208225778242016-05-26T10:42:01.908-04:002016-05-26T10:42:01.908-04:00I saw a very similar one last week.
On a commie-r...I saw a very similar one last week.<br /><br />On a commie-red background, it led with a yellow hammer and sickle, followed by "How do you like the change?"<br /><br />A non-trivial portion of the electorate really act as though they live in some alternate-universe USA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-32397974860339788482016-05-26T03:22:26.295-04:002016-05-26T03:22:26.295-04:00I actually think the wingnut treatment of Clinton ...I actually think the wingnut treatment of Clinton was worse than the treatment Obama has received. However today I saw an interesting sight on the freeway. A guy in one of those jacked up four-wheel drive "Tonka Toy" trucks had emblazoned across the entire back windshield- the letter 'N', a red Soviet hammer and sickle and the letters BAMA. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-14524409130039744592016-05-26T02:57:22.055-04:002016-05-26T02:57:22.055-04:00As luck would have it, today I read an interesting...As luck would have it, today I read an interesting Thomas Frank essay- "Too Smart to Fail: Notes on an Age of Folly" from the 2014 book "No Future for You, Salvos from The Baffler". The article mentions a past column from the same Michael Lewis mocking people concerned about risky derivatives back in 2007. How not only have there been no consequences for those in the media so tragically wrong about the tech bubble, the housing bubble, financial deregulation, and the Iraq invasion, but rather to this day they maintain a perverse "credibility" amongst themselves for being so wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-48541927949971491002016-05-26T02:51:44.812-04:002016-05-26T02:51:44.812-04:00The extent of your research is one book?The extent of your research is one book?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-87841268271741878182016-05-25T18:12:08.693-04:002016-05-25T18:12:08.693-04:00I was 16 and just becoming politically aware when ...I was 16 and just becoming politically aware when Clinton ran against GHWB, and I have vivid memories of just how dark and twisted the right wing's origin stories about Bill Clinton were, going all the way back to his childhood. He certainly grew up in a rough, toxic environment, but Far Right shills concocted stories in which he was second cousin to the Devil and his mother was an Illuminati Project Monarch sex concubine. The biggest difference between the Clinton Era hate propaganda and the Obama Era propaganda, to my mind, is that the speakers weren't turned all the way up yet in the Clinton years (but they were certainly turned up louder than most people care to remember).<br /><br />I also find it interesting that the same kind of white panic/nativism/"anti-PC backlash" that seems to excite Trump supporters was originally amped all the way up into hysteria during the late GHWB/early Clinton years when Schleisenger was shilling The Disuniting of America and critics and movie goers were gushing over Falling Down. Connorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14008353877465471977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-78304881470508406942016-05-25T16:56:36.119-04:002016-05-25T16:56:36.119-04:00Here is an oddness. Bernie Sanders has been attack...Here is an oddness. Bernie Sanders has been attacking Hillary Clinton over speeches made to Goldman Sachs after she was Secretary of State and before she ran for president. He has been claiming that the business model of Wall Street is fraud and that her association with them is thus corrupt.<br /><br />I've been reading Flash Boys by Michael Lewis and Goldman Sachs comes off pretty well, as one of the firms that was trying to help investors find the best market price. See Chapter 7, where Goldman ensured the success of the new, fair exchange created to undercut high frequency trading. They did that by sending all of their large investor orders to the new exchange.<br /><br />Isn't it remotely possible that Hillary Clinton might have spoken to Goldman Sachs about helping people and being less greedy and helped to show them the way toward this enlightened long-term strategy of helping investors find fair market prices? The time would be right, since this good stuff happened in 2013. Why would Sanders assume she only said things that would encourage Wall Street greed and not things that would help them conduct their business by serving the interests of their investors more fairly?<br /><br />Mostly, I am finding it hard to understand why Goldman Sachs is synonymous with evil when they were one of the better actors in Lewis's book.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com