tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post3122535249045615997..comments2024-03-28T10:22:25.136-04:00Comments on the daily howler: They want Donham sent to prison!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-56750946082412986862022-08-12T15:33:33.859-04:002022-08-12T15:33:33.859-04:00"Bubba's lying under oath was not deemed ...<br />"Bubba's lying under oath was not deemed perjury by a judge."<br /><br />BS. Demigod Bubba <i>wasn't charged</i> with perjury. <br /><br />...to be exact: he was, by the congress (articles 1 and 2), but not within the judicial system.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-25665734969933638772022-08-12T13:35:59.908-04:002022-08-12T13:35:59.908-04:00Bubba's lying under oath was not deemed perju...Bubba's lying under oath was not deemed perjury by a judge. It's been adjudicated and closed. Donham's lying under oath was probably also not perjury. She never accused Till of a crime. She bears moral culpability for his death, but probably not legal.Ilyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09520998225031485048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-44974085255580308132022-08-11T14:24:05.202-04:002022-08-11T14:24:05.202-04:00What's her legal culpability?What's her legal culpability?Ilyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09520998225031485048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-5365919825292697632022-08-11T14:23:48.043-04:002022-08-11T14:23:48.043-04:00Her lying wouldn't have been criminal. The onl...Her lying wouldn't have been criminal. The only question, therefore, is whether she had some part in the kidnapping and murder. It doesn't seem like there is any evidence of her culpability. Ilyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09520998225031485048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-39616534976020284662022-08-11T13:58:51.056-04:002022-08-11T13:58:51.056-04:00Leaving aside your "weaselly answer" lyi...Leaving aside your "weaselly answer" lying dembottery, both qualify as "lying under oath", dear dembot. <br /><br />The thesis "lying under oath is a crime", suggested by dear government scientist, is either true or false. ...well -- or meaningless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-7871475304029815032022-08-11T13:43:55.190-04:002022-08-11T13:43:55.190-04:00Mao, there is a difference between committing perj...Mao, there is a difference between committing perjury in a murder trial and giving a weaselly answer in a deposition in a civil case about whether you had 'sex" with someone who isn't even involved in the civil case. AC/MAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-26599784961691460462022-08-11T13:36:41.543-04:002022-08-11T13:36:41.543-04:00Anon 8:14 - according to Martin, quoted in TDH'...Anon 8:14 - according to Martin, quoted in TDH's post, it is an "alleged" memoir. As to perjury, did she actually testify at the trial? I don't know - do you? I believe the trial was in state court - how do you know what the statute of limitation was under that state's laws? Send her straight to hell - what does that mean?AC/MAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-14683722832030915602022-08-11T10:45:40.131-04:002022-08-11T10:45:40.131-04:00The failure to prosecute Donham teaches us one les...The failure to prosecute Donham teaches us one lesson. If women accuse males of sexual harassment, like Donham did, the women should be prepared to be charged and imprisoned, unless they have eyewitnesses.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-83076016151928999352022-08-11T01:28:27.315-04:002022-08-11T01:28:27.315-04:00"Lying under oath is a crime."
Unless y..."Lying under oath is a crime."<br /><br />Unless you're Demigod Bubba. If you are, lying under oath is a must; perfectly lawful and innocent. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-56623074446903642482022-08-10T22:11:09.874-04:002022-08-10T22:11:09.874-04:00Somerby pretends he is interested in legalities bu...Somerby pretends he is interested in legalities but his main point is that we are bloodthirsty for wanting justice for Emmett Till who was the victim, not this 88 year old woman who got away with her crime all her life.Not a rodenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216459357112547141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-37064559787120451472022-08-10T21:46:47.109-04:002022-08-10T21:46:47.109-04:00The statute of limitations for perjury in Mississi...The statute of limitations for perjury in Mississippi is two years. There are no living witnesses to anything else Carolyn Donham might have done, and short of extracting a confession of some kind from her on the witness stand, it is difficult to imagine how any type of conviction could be obtained in a trial. That is the sad but hard reality.Larrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-70152612313963617622022-08-10T20:43:51.246-04:002022-08-10T20:43:51.246-04:00Please. They won't even charge the racist dou...Please. They won't even charge the racist douchebag who lied to 911 and got a guy killed at a Walmart for the crime of shopping while black. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-11458941372204197532022-08-10T20:14:44.985-04:002022-08-10T20:14:44.985-04:001. She said so in her memoir.
2. Perjury during a ...1. She said so in her memoir.<br />2. Perjury during a murder trial cannot have a statute of limitation because murder has none.<br />3. You can skip the trial and just send her straight to hell.Not a rodenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216459357112547141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-80249185520187686102022-08-10T20:09:59.702-04:002022-08-10T20:09:59.702-04:00"She lied about what Till did." No doubt..."She lied about what Till did." No doubt that's correct. And, I imagine is such a lie is a crime, However, I see two insuperable difficulties:<br />1. How do you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she lied?<br />2. I imagine that crime has a statute of limitations, so that she could not longer be prosecuted for it.<br />David in Calhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10222355423128534221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-91763443112733192692022-08-10T19:32:08.373-04:002022-08-10T19:32:08.373-04:00She's nice now, unless you're a 14 year ol...She's nice now, unless you're a 14 year old black kid.Not a rodenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216459357112547141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-88812352944806492552022-08-10T19:31:05.332-04:002022-08-10T19:31:05.332-04:00Racists all get a "get out of jail free"...Racists all get a "get out of jail free" card when they turn 88.Not a rodenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216459357112547141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-49945753943385842522022-08-10T19:28:47.578-04:002022-08-10T19:28:47.578-04:00"you and your sacred lizard brain don't h..."you and your sacred lizard brain don't have the slightest idea what the facts are either"<br /><br />Somerby feels confident saying this, but he won't call Trump a liar.<br /><br />Here are some facts:<br /><br />1. Emmett Till is dead.<br />2. His murderers were acquitted.<br />3. This woman recanted her trial testimony but Somerby won't say she did anything wrong.<br />4. Somerby is an asshole.<br /><br />If I commited murder yesterday, that too is in the past. Shall I be absolved of that crime because past is past? I doubt Abraham Lincoln would say yes.<br /><br />The only reason age matters in charging crimes is that children have diminished capacity and they will chage as they get older. The same is not true of 88 year old women. Her best days were in 1955, when she committed at least the crime of perjury, by her own admission. But Somerby thinks her age should let her walk away from her past. Has it done that for any of us? Not so much.Not a rodenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216459357112547141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-11058791106293690142022-08-10T18:36:12.356-04:002022-08-10T18:36:12.356-04:00It doesn't matter that she is now 88 years old...It doesn't matter that she is now 88 years old. There are elderly people being punished finally for their roles in the Holocaust. There are serial killers being brought to trial finally for crimes committed in the long past. There is no statute of limitations on murder and certain other crimes. Emmett Till was murdered. Is Somerby a moron?Not a rodenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216459357112547141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-28986933947060176802022-08-10T18:32:09.803-04:002022-08-10T18:32:09.803-04:00"It isn't clear that she played a direct ..."It isn't clear that she played a direct role, of any kind, in this vicious killing."<br /><br />She lied about what Till did and that lie contributed to his being attacked and murdered. The two men who committed the crime did so because she lied and they may have been acquitted because they were avenging what they thought was an assault against her. She not only instigated the attack on Till but contributed to his attackers being let off after their crime. Lying under oath is a crime.<br /><br />Donham had to have known that something bad would happen to Till as the result of her accusations. That makes her culpable, as much as if she had attacked him herself instead of by inciting violence through these two men.<br /><br />It is frustrating that she recanted her testimony and still the case was not retried.<br /><br />This is an egregious case. For Somerby to pretend that this demonstrates Democratic blood lust is ridiculous. Somerby is race-baiting again. It is not OK for white people to kill innocent black people, whether in 1955 or now, and Somerby's complaint that crimes in the past should be bygones is inappropriate because it implies that our racist past should be forgiven and forgotten, wiped clean, even though there are similar atrocities still being committed. Racism is happening now and Somerby needs to acknowledge that continuing to punish racist acts is a way to let today's people know that racism is still not OK.Not a rodenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216459357112547141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-60194087996970984542022-08-10T17:38:06.795-04:002022-08-10T17:38:06.795-04:00Send white collar criminals to prison, reap the be...Send white collar criminals to prison, reap the benefits of prison reform.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-15780625115944781002022-08-10T16:54:15.758-04:002022-08-10T16:54:15.758-04:00
Tsk. Oh, dear.
Well, what can we say? The usual...<br />Tsk. Oh, dear. <br /><br />Well, what can we say? The usual, we suppose: thank you, dear Bob, for documenting this tiny-little portion of the latest liberal atrocities... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com