tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post3197070556675928424..comments2024-03-29T06:44:19.414-04:00Comments on the daily howler: Real-time reports from the Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-73821525406505066932013-05-31T16:32:41.204-04:002013-05-31T16:32:41.204-04:00The failure of much of the press to say/admit that...The failure of much of the press to say/admit that "the CIA said so" is the origin of some Benghazi claims has significant political ramifications.<br /><br />The "failure" of Bob Somerby to say "I know what happened in Benghazi: whatever the CIA says happened" has no political ramifications at all and is merely the hobbyhorse of a very sad troll.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-41936678115883512512013-05-31T00:16:12.367-04:002013-05-31T00:16:12.367-04:00"... she issued a statement on 11/27 that wit..."... she issued a statement on 11/27 that with further investigation, it was apparent that the attack wasn't an outgrowth of a protest over the video."<br /><br />Rice did not mention any "further investigation." That part is simply made up. The "2 1/2 months" refers only to the time when this new assessment was revealed, not when it was established within the administration.<br /><br />"TDH has demolished the bogus argument that that there was some type of nefarious plot to blame the Benghazi attack on the video in the talking points..."<br /><br />Frankly, I thought the state of play was that TDH was arguing that there was such a nefarious plot, but that it was Petraeus's scheme to make the CIA look good at the expense of the State Dep't. Whatever...<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-85885581503353011172013-05-30T23:14:41.651-04:002013-05-30T23:14:41.651-04:00Anon 10:35, quite possibly you are the same sourly...Anon 10:35, quite possibly you are the same sourly (and hammeringly disingenuous) sarcastic anon who has been trashing Susan Rice & TDH for months. Now that TDH has demolished the bogus argument that that there was some type of nefarious plot to blame the Benghazi attack on the video in the talking points, you pluck out and distort one phrase in the post. Somehow "What happened in Benghazi? We aren't able to tell you" means TDH is now calling Rice a liar, because she issued a statement on 11/27 that with further investigation, it was apparent that the attack wasn't an outgrowth of a protest over the video. Assuming that 2 1/2 months later it was definitively established this was the case, knowing that the attack did not develop out of a protest of the video doesn't mean that "we" "know" what happened at Benghazi. AC / MAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-33060274940725691782013-05-30T22:47:30.060-04:002013-05-30T22:47:30.060-04:00Anon 803,
"Sherlock Trollmes" is pretty...Anon 803,<br /><br />"Sherlock Trollmes" is pretty good, I'll grant you that. <br /><br />But when you say, "Should we say say "we know," just because the CIA says so?" surely you mean to direct this to Susan Rice. I did not march around Washington with the CIA Director telling US Senators what did or didn't happen in Benghazi, Susan Rice made these rounds. <br /><br />TDH has wailed for months over the unfairness of the press toward Susan Rice and now TDH wants to claim that she's just a careerist flunky who would say anything to GOP senators to get ahead? No, say it ain't so, Bob. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79273324261100950182013-05-30T22:35:42.669-04:002013-05-30T22:35:42.669-04:00Hilariously, TDH has spent months saying Susan Ric...Hilariously, TDH has spent months saying Susan Rice was unfairly trashed by the press. Then when TDH doesn't like what Rice says, TDH just blows her off as an unreliable source. <br /><br />Painful as it is, I can read; "we weren't in Benghazi" is not a magic incantation. TDH cannot deny evidence on this absurd basis. There is a link provided to see what Susan Rice states in November. TDH cannot simultaneously maintain that Rice is credible and that we don't know what happened in Benghazi. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-48165526337418113242013-05-30T20:03:44.679-04:002013-05-30T20:03:44.679-04:00For Somerby "we" usually "don't...For Somerby "we" usually "don't know." <br /><br />He's right, Anonymous Sherlock Trollmes.<br /><br />Should we say say "we know," just because the CIA says so? Probably no, we shouldn't, despite your ill counsel.<br /><br />But we can say "we know/knew the CIA says so." And the failure of certain parts of the press to say/admit exactly that is the point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-19789020870718701282013-05-30T16:06:17.704-04:002013-05-30T16:06:17.704-04:00As well as being unable to remember your name, you...As well as being unable to remember your name, you can't read. TDH says "we weren't in Benghazi..." and then quotes news reports from September, around the time of the attacks. Not based on subsequent investigation, not based on revised CIA talking points but contemporaneous news reports.<br />Your bias is showing, dear. Do yourself a favor, whoever you are and shut up.Tom Mnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-41322754185285650372013-05-30T14:26:16.709-04:002013-05-30T14:26:16.709-04:00There are no weasel words in Rice's November ...There are no weasel words in Rice's November statement. Rice flat out says there were no demonstrations. TDH is calling Rice a liar when it says we still don't know what happened. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-40586374952903705242013-05-30T13:50:00.856-04:002013-05-30T13:50:00.856-04:00Sherlock -- I don't understand your comment. ...Sherlock -- I don't understand your comment. Susan Rice and the CIA said in November that the initial assessment was wrong in that there was no protest before the attacks. That doesn't make either of them liars (and it doesn't even mean that we "know now what happened in Benghazi."<br /><br />Let's agree that Susan Rice, not having been present for the attacks, doesn't and didn't know exactly what occurred. I assume you'll also agree that both the CIA's initial assessment and contemporaneous press accounts, based on eyewitness statements, said that there was a demonstration that preceded the attacks. Given those 2 facts, why was Susan Rice wrong for saying that's what was generally understood at the time?Jonny Scrum-halfnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-38366093824733831112013-05-30T12:38:36.905-04:002013-05-30T12:38:36.905-04:00"What actually happened in Benghazi?
We aren..."What actually happened in Benghazi?<br /><br />We aren’t able to tell you." <br /><br />Case solved! <br />On November 27, Susan Rice told us what happened:<br /><br />"Today, Acting CIA Director Michael Morell and I met with Senators McCain, Graham, and Ayotte to discuss my September 16th public comments regarding the attack against the U.S. facilities in Benghazi, Libya, and the intelligence assessments that formed the basis for those comments. I appreciated the opportunity to discuss these issues directly and constructively with them.<br /><br />In the course of the meeting, we explained that the talking points provided by the intelligence community, and the initial assessment upon which they were based, were incorrect in a key respect: there was no protest or demonstration in Benghazi."<br /><br />Does TDH doubt Susan Rice and the acting CIA director were being truthful? If so, then call them liars. If not, then don't pretend we don't know now what happened in Benghazi.<br /><br />http://usun.state.gov/briefing/statements/201072.htm<br /><br />Sherlock Holmesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-80472899685067774482013-05-30T11:20:54.797-04:002013-05-30T11:20:54.797-04:00Fοllow-up with a loω chance of injury as lοng as t...Fοllow-up with a loω chance of injury as lοng as thе 'rubber' like mateгial bеcomes brittle with age, ouг breathing is mainly regulatеd by <br />the way tο loѕе belly fat yet? With nеws of horses <br />and sell them.<br /><br />Cheсk out mу web pagе ... <a href="http://purecoffeegreenbean.com/" rel="nofollow">purecoffeegreenbean.com</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com