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It'..."What exactly is the criticism?"<br /><br />It's the Clintons - it doesn't matter what they do. [Clinton Rule #67].Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-91740933785982741122015-04-30T18:50:54.451-04:002015-04-30T18:50:54.451-04:00What was wrong about visiting Kazakhstan, India an...What was wrong about visiting Kazakhstan, India and China to inspect the activities of the foundation there?<br /><br />The Times had the facts wrong because they don't care about getting details right. But what exactly is the criticism?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-84652006252707272232015-04-30T18:47:47.547-04:002015-04-30T18:47:47.547-04:00How can there be a conflict of interest BEFORE Hil...How can there be a conflict of interest BEFORE Hillary became Secretary of State, and before she started her presidential campaign (note that she was not elected)?<br /><br />What you have quoted is entirely consistent with what Somerby said -- that the Times was incorrect when it said Clinton flew to Kazakhstan with Giustra. He didn't. <br /><br />It seems odd that you think hanging around with billionaires is somehow a bad thing for someone with a charitable foundation to do. How else do you think they get big donations?<br /><br />You also seem to be implying that it is wrong for the Clintons to make money, to support themselves using the contacts and knowledge developed while in office. What else do you think any past president does?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-14802212102834744652015-04-30T18:01:45.079-04:002015-04-30T18:01:45.079-04:00Yes, and within hours, mm, they were dining with t...Yes, and within hours, mm, they were dining with the President of Khazakhstan, whose government Giustra was negotiating to go into partnership with, Clinton was praising that President, and they then hopped onto Giustras plane and headed to India where they did more good work for mankind. <br /><br />Oh, and lest we forget, Clinton's longtime advance man, Ahmed Khan was on Giustra's plane, making arrangements once on ground for a trip by the former President which was described this way by Becker in the Times:<br /><br />"Mr. Clinton’s Kazakhstan visit, the only one of his post-presidency, appears to have been arranged hastily. The United States Embassy got last-minute notice that the president would be making “a private visit,” said a State Department official, who said he was not authorized to speak on the record."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-63635470660066699882015-04-30T15:59:36.476-04:002015-04-30T15:59:36.476-04:00I look forward to Bob jetting back to 2008 and the...I look forward to Bob jetting back to 2008 and the Jo Becker article.<br /><br />While in flight I hope he pens a paragraph on Robert Lenzner, the author of the Forbes article which, in January 2009 "debunked" the article written in January 2008 in the NYTimes by Jo Becker.<br /><br />He will surely tell us the connection between Robert Lezner and Terry Lezner, super sleuth and former private investigator for, among many others, President Bill Clinton.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-81211304421580960412015-04-30T15:59:13.196-04:002015-04-30T15:59:13.196-04:00********************
Clinton arrived in Kazakhstan...********************<br />Clinton arrived in Kazakhstan late in the afternoon Sept. 6, 2005, on billionaire Ron Burkle’s plane, four days after Giustra. By then Giustra was well on the road to finalizing a memorandum of understanding to acquire a 30% interest in the Kharassan project for $75 million; the state owned the other 70%. <br />******************************<br />http://www.forbes.com/2009/01/12/giustra-clinton-kazakhstan-pf-ii-in_rl_0912croesus_inl.htmlmmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-83520382519505804192015-04-30T15:55:20.607-04:002015-04-30T15:55:20.607-04:00Da Plane...Da Plane
https://www.youtube.com/watch...Da Plane...Da Plane<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x_QbVDlLbI<br /><br />From the NYTimes January 2008 article immediately following description of Clinton and Giustra acknowledging in writing they were travelling together:<br /><br />"As Mrs. Clinton’s presidential campaign has intensified,<strong> Mr. Clinton has begun severing financial ties with Ronald W. Burkle</strong>, the supermarket magnate, and Vinod Gupta, the chairman of InfoUSA, to avoid any conflicts of interest. Those two men have harnessed the former president’s clout to expand their businesses while making the Clintons rich through partnership and consulting arrangements.<br /><br />From the Forbes article in January, 2009 which Somerby says "debunks" the NY Times:<br /><br />"Clinton arrived in Kazakhstan late in the afternoon Sept. 6, 2005, <strong>on billionaire Ron Burkle’s plane</strong> four days after Giustra.,,,,Clinton and Giustra took off for India on Giustra’s plane."<br /><br />I am sure Bill wanted to tell the Times they had the wrong billionaire's plane but it slipped his mind until Giustra stepped up to the plate and did the denying a year later while conflict stories were brewing following Hillary's selection for State. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-91300823618603989042015-04-30T15:31:17.452-04:002015-04-30T15:31:17.452-04:00"The NY Times can look up the Forbes article ..."The NY Times can look up the Forbes article as easily as Somerby and they didn't bother to fact check the story."<br /><br />New York Times article January 2008. Giustra and Clinton travelling together confirmed in writing. By Giustra and Clinton.<br /><br />Forbes article January 2009. Giustra supplies copy of passenger manifest from his private plane for denial one year later.<br /><br />Are you really that stupid? <br /><br />"your soul is a dark piece of crap"<br /><br />Do I have a soul? Being a philosopher I know certainty means I will never see, hear, smell, or feel my soul as long as I am living.<br /><br />In your tribe they may believe in such things. According to your Somerby, you tribe is dumb. lazy, and disliked.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-12156467392894153102015-04-30T15:19:34.093-04:002015-04-30T15:19:34.093-04:00Appropriate you use a blow job reference in an pos...Appropriate you use a blow job reference in an post about Clinton rules.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-33120249733700115552015-04-30T15:18:08.899-04:002015-04-30T15:18:08.899-04:00From your link (Chomskyzinn):
"The researche...From your link (Chomskyzinn):<br /><br />"The researches note that this is not a new development caused by, say, recent Supreme Court decisions allowing more money in politics, such as Citizens United or this month's ruling on McCutcheon v. FEC. As the data stretching back to the 1980s suggests, this has been a long term trend, and is therefore harder for most people to perceive, let alone reverse."<br /><br />Raising the concern about rule by the elite now, when we have our first female candidate for president, when the trend has been going on for decades, suggests the motive has little to do with democracy and much more to do with defeating the current Democratic Party candidate.<br /><br />Conservatives are not going to be concerned about whether the decisions of government are better for the elite than for the average person. They think it should be that way. This issue is being raised here with the hope of peeling away Clinton votes by portraying her as a greedy money-grubber who doesn't really care about the middle class, despite having devoted her entire public life to helping others, especially women and children (who tend to be more affected by poverty). Even the current scandal involves a CHARITY that she and her husband and daughter have devoted their lives to, when they could be relaxing and learning to paint like the Republican elite do after leaving office.<br /><br />Our country was founded on the principle that only property owners should run the country because they have a vested interest in how things turn out. We have slowly evolved into more of a democracy, largely influenced by immigration and unionization. Clinton has always supported that evolution. Blaming her for trying to use her personal wealth and waking hours to help other people strikes me as majorly napping in whatever woods you inhabit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-28820567800703417582015-04-30T15:14:34.768-04:002015-04-30T15:14:34.768-04:00That is all very interesting and exciting. Let...That is all very interesting and exciting. Let's have a seminar some day on whether the US is an actual democracy. Get your soap box, I'll meet you on 42nd street.<br /><br />In the meanwhile, we're heading to a presidential election in which the Democratic leading candidate is being smeared by innuendo and hammered unfairly by the Rupert Murdoch media Empire, and if it's all the same to you, I would much rather have a Democrat win the presidency than any of the monkeys sucking off Sheldon Adelson in Las Vegas, and the Koch Brothers.mmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-15407841151547946472015-04-30T15:05:43.226-04:002015-04-30T15:05:43.226-04:00Warning to casual readers of this blog: These comm...Warning to casual readers of this blog: These comments are unmoderated. They are infested by one or more trolls who routinely attack the blog author in a variety of ways, rarely substantive. Such attacks are not an indicator of the level of interest of other readers, the validity of the content posted nor of the esteem in which the blog author is held by others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-26656518677175361742015-04-30T14:53:29.578-04:002015-04-30T14:53:29.578-04:00What exactly is wrong with them going to those pla...What exactly is wrong with them going to those places to see first-hand the results of their philanthropic work?<br /><br />Sounds like Somerby is right and the NY Times was wrong and Forbes got it right. Facts can be confirmed. Somerby is willing to say he doesn't know mostly because, being a philosopher, he knows that certainty depends on his having been on that plane with them. The rest of us don't need that level of confirmation to say what happened. The NY Times can look up the Forbes article as easily as Somerby and they didn't bother to fact check the story. They are selling a book excerpt and they don't feel responsible for the content of any story based on that book -- the author is responsible and he has been proven before to be a partisan hack who doesn't care about truth or facts as long as he hits an opponent. <br /><br />You take the same attitude toward Somerby. You don't care about any issue here except hurting Somerby. It is very tiresome. It must suck to hate someone so much that you have to write comment after comment attacking him -- your soul is a dark piece of crap that shrivels every time you write one of these idiocies. No one wants you here and you should do yourself and all others a favor by going away.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-70296618915896981892015-04-30T14:46:40.345-04:002015-04-30T14:46:40.345-04:00TDH talks today about a faction of the 1% that is ...TDH talks today about a faction of the 1% that is committed to helping the unfortunate of the world, aided by another faction of the 1% trying to do the same, and getting flak for it. One wonders why very wealthy people would continue to help the less fortunate given the criticism they get for doing so. TDH wrote a good column today and you just carp. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-11726639178662382952015-04-30T14:31:34.289-04:002015-04-30T14:31:34.289-04:00Somerby writes:
"Except uh-oh! It seems that...Somerby writes:<br /><br />"Except uh-oh! It seems that Frank and Bill didn’t fly to Kazakhstan on that jet plane! Or so Giustra <strong>has now declared</strong> two separate times, including in last week’s statement.<br /><br />In 2009, Forbes magazine reported that Giustra was right. For ourselves, we still have no idea, as is routinely the case when one reads the Times.<br /><br />Does the New York Times <strong>check any facts</strong>?<br /><br />Well Bob, apparently not only do they check their facts, they got it in writing. From Both Clinton and Giustra:<br /><br />From the January 2008 article:<br /><br />"Mr. Giustra was invited to accompany the former president to Almaty just as the financier was trying to seal a deal he had been negotiating for months.<br /><br /><strong>In separate written responses</strong>, both men said Mr. Giustra traveled with Mr. Clinton to Kazakhstan, India and China to see first-hand the philanthropic work done by his foundation."<br /><br />Of course we learn from Forbes in January 2009, during the run up to Hillary's confirmation, that Clinton may have actually arrived on another billionaire's plane. Giustra just had Clinton's advance man on board. They only left Kazakhstan together aboard Giustra's plane.<br /><br />If Forbes is right. Like Bob Somerby, I don't have any idea either. D'Leisha D. Factcheckernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-43807525381514539862015-04-30T14:07:42.110-04:002015-04-30T14:07:42.110-04:00Talk about running off an napping in the woods.......Talk about running off an napping in the woods....<br /><br />http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/princeton-experts-say-us-no-longer-democracyChomskyzinnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-62842527946756923802015-04-30T13:59:04.940-04:002015-04-30T13:59:04.940-04:00jackass, please define these two separate but equa...jackass, please define these two separate but equal "factions of the 1%" who are at war with each other.mmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-68043126232976634722015-04-30T13:47:01.106-04:002015-04-30T13:47:01.106-04:00TDH continues its stirring defense of one faction ...TDH continues its stirring defense of one faction of the 1% vs another faction of the 1%. And one wonders why most people don't vote or think the political system works for them.chomskyzinnnoreply@blogger.com