tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post3488385965491670497..comments2024-03-28T16:14:18.717-04:00Comments on the daily howler: Celebrification, commodification!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-11962938017829465072014-02-12T00:54:00.039-05:002014-02-12T00:54:00.039-05:00"'Take a sad song and make it better'..."'Take a sad song and make it better' is about as close to the Meaning of Life as we're going to get."<br /><br />Excellent.Mike Lnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-83763237107130269582014-02-11T17:18:31.608-05:002014-02-11T17:18:31.608-05:00344: including you.344: including you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-53422743539068964112014-02-11T16:04:10.756-05:002014-02-11T16:04:10.756-05:00I actually liked the cover song better than the Pa...I actually liked the cover song better than the Paul and Ringo numbers at the tribute. Much like everything Dylan ever did...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-32075090380719692142014-02-11T15:53:21.997-05:002014-02-11T15:53:21.997-05:00"Has there ever been a musician more commodif..."Has there ever been a musician more commodified than Bob Dylan?" Um, yeah. Generally speaking, ripping on artists who have been successful for six decades leaves you on pretty shaky ground. Bob S is not a fan of the Beatles, but grants them their due. Taking pot-shots at Dylan is a loser's game. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-39978351100936132014-02-11T15:44:26.910-05:002014-02-11T15:44:26.910-05:00Almost everyone is surfing The Dumb at this point....Almost everyone is surfing The Dumb at this point. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-32411173587055690362014-02-11T15:42:43.579-05:002014-02-11T15:42:43.579-05:00Malala transfuses from the Great Souls. Malala transfuses from the Great Souls. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-27761568702577206992014-02-11T15:16:27.762-05:002014-02-11T15:16:27.762-05:00What's Malala's favorite band?What's Malala's favorite band?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-12678605257937484092014-02-11T15:05:09.906-05:002014-02-11T15:05:09.906-05:00Sure. And bedbugs, too.
http://www.tripadvisor.c...Sure. And bedbugs, too.<br /><br />http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g48067-d93805-r137171115-The_Maplewood_Inn-Liverpool_Finger_Lakes_New_York.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-35938772519481173352014-02-11T14:47:41.160-05:002014-02-11T14:47:41.160-05:00Has the Times expanded its series on the high cost...Has the Times expanded its series on the high cost of US health care to the penis pump pricing scam?<br />Thought I'd ask cause Somerby hasn't mentioned that MSNBC has not covered it. Don't read or watch either. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-8225091347066278082014-02-11T14:45:56.770-05:002014-02-11T14:45:56.770-05:00Plenty of Irish in Liverpool.Plenty of Irish in Liverpool.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-56545425053213111872014-02-11T14:40:51.476-05:002014-02-11T14:40:51.476-05:00Just do it -- no need to announce your intentions ...Just do it -- no need to announce your intentions to everyone else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-24223381282713955162014-02-11T14:21:01.362-05:002014-02-11T14:21:01.362-05:00why would you be terrified somerby would attack th...why would you be terrified somerby would attack the beatles. they aren't irish. they are'nt catholic. they aren't liberal leaders who failed to stand up against the war.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-34893068169429484642014-02-11T14:13:50.884-05:002014-02-11T14:13:50.884-05:00Did not enjoy the tribute for the same reason Bob ...Did not enjoy the tribute for the same reason Bob didn't. "Oh, look at Celebrity XYZ approving!" Almost as bad as the Oscars. Blech.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-71024211731719507792014-02-11T14:12:24.557-05:002014-02-11T14:12:24.557-05:00And with Let it Be as close to any worthwhile advi...And with Let it Be as close to any worthwhile advice on living life as we're going to get.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79765369109620411022014-02-11T13:00:30.548-05:002014-02-11T13:00:30.548-05:00Thank God. At the beginning of the post, I was te...Thank God. At the beginning of the post, I was terrified that Bob was going to trash the Beatles. Wisely, he didn't. As for all the cut-aways to the audience, it's pretty similiar to FOX showing a member of the crowd every ten seconds during the World Series. They don't think the audience has the attention span to just watch the game. My guess is that they have some research to back it up too.<br /><br />And Hey Jude is still my favorite song. "Take a sad song and make it better" is about as close to the Meaning of Life as we're going to get.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-38212071590262944802014-02-11T12:45:53.602-05:002014-02-11T12:45:53.602-05:00"When the mop tops arrived in the U.S., we we..."When the mop tops arrived in the U.S., we were high school juniors in the San Francisco suburbs. For us, Bob Dylan had already hit."<br /><br />Then there were those who could enjoy the music of both.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-77734976348555398432014-02-11T12:45:09.922-05:002014-02-11T12:45:09.922-05:00I think TDH should have a daily music thread.I think TDH should have a daily music thread.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-59714949783873102802014-02-11T12:35:30.415-05:002014-02-11T12:35:30.415-05:00Spanish boots + Real Corinthian Leather
Wowee man,...Spanish boots + Real Corinthian Leather<br />Wowee man, pretty scary<br />I'll let your ride in my Italian car,<br />If I can ride in yours.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-13170296589712039922014-02-11T12:27:33.073-05:002014-02-11T12:27:33.073-05:00All you have to do is read his memoir, and then yo...All you have to do is read his memoir, and then you'll know:<br /><br />http://www.amazon.com/Chronicles-Bob-Dylan/dp/0743244583hardindrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05275899305949454964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-73173676520764551132014-02-11T12:23:30.520-05:002014-02-11T12:23:30.520-05:00Time for some symbolism in Ft. Howler.
Got It.
B...Time for some symbolism in Ft. Howler.<br /><br />Got It.<br /><br />Bob is dead.<br /><br />He shared a bowl of yellow mattered custard with Rachel Maddow<br />and put things right before he died.<br /><br />Now liberalworld is off his shoulder.<br /><br />Na, na, na, nahna, na na.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-74518397097951791822014-02-11T12:22:18.358-05:002014-02-11T12:22:18.358-05:00Those are two very excellent questions, hardindr, ...Those are two very excellent questions, hardindr, as we now read various comparisions and contrasts of the music of the Beatles and Chrysler's newest salesman.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-64265653731570537402014-02-11T12:21:11.260-05:002014-02-11T12:21:11.260-05:00Dylan/Beatles. Apples/oranges Broccoli/Pie. You co...Dylan/Beatles. Apples/oranges Broccoli/Pie. You could like The Beatles at 9. To appreciate Dylan, you had to grow up a little, so I wasn't into him until after he was pretty much a relic (although I had absorbed his biggies from the top 40).<br /><br />The Beatles' message Sunday night was overwhelmingly positive because John Lennon was once again shafted. It was basically a night for Paul, the positive one, punctuated with ALL of George's substantial songs. If anything, Ringo performed better than Paul (his modest vocal talents being about as good as they ever were), but his Beatle numbers were all Paul-penned.<br /><br />For John there was "In My LIfe," which Paul claims to have melodized, and I believe him. There was "Don't Let Me Down," to give Yoko a chance to tear up in public one more time. There was a hootnanny version of "Revolution" which sounded like a compromise between the two Beatles' versions that dulled the edges of both.<br /><br />You want dark, brooding and negative? You needed more of Lennon's stuff. But I guess Grammy wanted to keep things bright and positive. So once again McCartney was the focus.<br /><br />The lyrics of Hey Jude were working lyrics waiting for a final draft. Lennon, a nonsense practitioner, said keep the first draft. I think it was subconscious sabotage. Now people see as holy writ. <br /><br />The Beatles were always laughing at people taking messages from their work (worst example ever, Charles Manson). The music came first. Usually the lyrics read like a necessary bother, evolving from the usual teenage love angst to stories about British eccentrics or John's internal states or George's spiritual progress. No oracles here.<br /><br />Ultimately, The Beatles were about having fun with great tunes. But then, didn't Dylan often follow the Beats' example in writing pure nonsense, too? Isn't most of "Rolling Stone" gibberish? He wasn't much into being an oracle either.Jeeves Stumphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17716700263908484003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-72094556387655436372014-02-11T11:52:03.436-05:002014-02-11T11:52:03.436-05:00Has there ever been a musician more commodified th...Has there ever been a musician more commodified than Bob Dylan? Did Bob Dylan ever believe in any of the music he ever wrote and performed?hardindrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05275899305949454964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-49259273357018119012014-02-11T11:50:04.745-05:002014-02-11T11:50:04.745-05:00If this is 'full service" I think I'l...If this is 'full service" I think I'll pump me own!Mike's Garden Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05970617814292401994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-78120534146199234972014-02-11T11:48:22.460-05:002014-02-11T11:48:22.460-05:00My take on the Beatles is that they had several op...My take on the Beatles is that they had several opposing influences in their songwriting. The positive from Paul and the negative from John, a spiritual influence from George, and good-natured pragmatism from Ringo. In their interactions, Paul and John fought, George withdrew and Ringo acted as peacemaker.<br /><br />The interesting part of the show for me was not the modern covers of the old songs, but the excellent musicians Ringo and Paul surrounded themselves with when they did their own performances at the end. With the cutaways to attractive audience members, I found myself wondering if these were the children of Beatles and their friends. If they were simply filling the seats with eye-candy to attract younger audiences unfamiliar with the Beatles, shame on them.<br /><br />The documentary Missrepresentation (now on Netflix) explains why this use of young women is bad for men and women both. It perhaps isn't about celebrification but about being unable to appreciate music without sexual images. Is that where we are now? Are they afraid to present music as an auditory experience in a visual medium and can they only provide visual interest via sex?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com