tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post369192184461916377..comments2024-03-28T15:16:24.659-04:00Comments on the daily howler: What is time? While we’re at it, what is justice?<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-86922429769848253052013-07-04T21:25:33.731-04:002013-07-04T21:25:33.731-04:00Second bottom line -- if you want to avoid being c...Second bottom line -- if you want to avoid being charged with 2nd degree murder for successfully defending yourself against an attack by a black male, make sure your last name is not, and I cannot stress this enough, NOT something like "Zimmerman."majnebnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-90483767686751482862013-07-04T21:16:01.990-04:002013-07-04T21:16:01.990-04:00Bottom line -- no matter how "dissed" yo...Bottom line -- no matter how "dissed" you feel, don't decide to beat the living shit out of a man who has no means of escape while he's screaming for help, and your chances of being shot will dramatically decrease.majnebnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-91914051568291408812013-07-04T19:23:41.942-04:002013-07-04T19:23:41.942-04:00Zimmerman came up with his cover story about "...Zimmerman came up with his cover story about "looking for an address" at lightning speed. He's just that brilliant. <br /><br />Zimmerman isn't required to earn his right to self defense by being courageous enough not to whisper his address. <br /><br />Whether Zimmerman is a hero or not depends on what Martin was up to that night. We don't know the significance of the piece of awning or burglary tool found near the site of Martin's attack on Zimmerman.<br /><br />Martin had more than enough time to make it home in the rain before Zimmerman ever stepped out of his car but he wanted a closer look. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-91398230599039353632013-07-04T18:34:42.793-04:002013-07-04T18:34:42.793-04:00And so the BS from Z hero worshippers continues. ...And so the BS from Z hero worshippers continues. You tell us that Martin was mandated to lead a stalker to his lodging and the lone 12 year old there, but that somehow your heroic armed vigilante Z was astute in his cowardice that someone might overhear him give his own address. <br /><br />And you tell us the fact that Z said "OK" about not following Martin was to his credit and supersedes the fact that he actually did continue after Martin, then concocted a lie to cover it up. <br /><br />And you (or an exact facsimile) tells us we should sympathize with Z for being forced by the person he needlessly killed to kill a person.<br /><br />Grow up. Learn to think. You are at pre-school level.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-26286264450584431052013-07-04T17:04:15.901-04:002013-07-04T17:04:15.901-04:00But you have to admit that that scene in Vertigo w...But you have to admit that that scene in Vertigo where the guy says "you got me" is pretty unforgettable!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-77717910194816732062013-07-04T15:28:51.496-04:002013-07-04T15:28:51.496-04:00How much time did Martin have to avoid Zimmerman?
...How much time did Martin have to avoid Zimmerman?<br /><br />2:09 minutes into the call GZ leaves his car after telling dispatcher "he's running."<br /><br />18 seconds later, at 2:27 minutes, GZ whispers his frustration about punks like Martin, and says "OK" when told he isn't needed to follow Martin after saying TM is headed toward back entrance.<br /><br />2:40 GZ states "he ran"<br /><br />GZ chats on the phone with the dispatcher from that point on (never catching sight of Martin before the end of the call at 4:05 minutes)<br /><br />3:41 GZ says "1150...crap I don't want to give it out I don't know where this kid is" after dispatcher asked for his home address<br /><br />4:00 after discussion of addresses and where to meet GZ, phone call ends<br /><br />TM's father's condo was 80 yards from GZ's car, where he "ran" from.<br /><br />The average speed for a 12 year old to run the 100 yard dash is 12 seconds.<br /><br />TM had 1:56 seconds to reach his father's place but obviously made no attempt to do so because he was filled with ill will, malice, spite, and hatred for the "cracker" he wanted to teach a lesson to.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-52866204546295383132013-07-04T13:56:50.500-04:002013-07-04T13:56:50.500-04:00Hopefully the combination of stupidity + racism on...Hopefully the combination of stupidity + racism on the part of Trayvon's champions doesn't lead to a conviction. That would be yet another travesty of justice for Mr. Zimmerman, in addition to the two he has suffered, being forced by Martin to kill a person, and then facing charges for defending himself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-11048629301172641372013-07-04T11:42:58.400-04:002013-07-04T11:42:58.400-04:00The one man on the program says "It's a p...The one man on the program says "It's a perfect storm of all that is bad." which could be said of the program itself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-37367353618291409302013-07-04T01:05:55.321-04:002013-07-04T01:05:55.321-04:00The late, great Undercover Black Man on Michael Er...The late, great Undercover Black Man on Michael Eric Dyson's chicanery.<br /><br />http://undercoverblackman.blogspot.com/2008/08/michael-eric-dysons-fantasy-interview.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-63320671475003602482013-07-03T22:11:21.900-04:002013-07-03T22:11:21.900-04:00Tried to tell you Anonymous, the dummies can't...Tried to tell you Anonymous, the dummies can't see those invisible [sarcasm] tags...Guynonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-10239957983816476422013-07-03T21:42:33.981-04:002013-07-03T21:42:33.981-04:00AnonymousJuly 3, 2013 at 9:16 PM seems to say that...AnonymousJuly 3, 2013 at 9:16 PM seems to say that it was reasonable for Travon Martin to feel threatened, because Zimmerman was walking. I don't agree. If Travon Martin had shot Z to death, would he have had a valid claim of self-defense, simply because Z was <i>walking</i>. I don't think so.<br /><br />Furthermore, Rachel Jeantel's testimony of how Martin reacted to being followed by Z doesn't indicate that Martin felt threatened. And, Martin's action of verbally accosting Z is inconsistent with feeling threatened. If he felt threatened, he could have returned to his residence after Z lost sight of him.David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-17556094446004191652013-07-03T21:40:48.524-04:002013-07-03T21:40:48.524-04:00If Zimmerman took the stand and said "I thoug...If Zimmerman took the stand and said <b>"I thought he was suspicious because he was black, I followed him, and then I walked up to him and said you are an asshole punk,"</b> and the jury believed Martin then slugged him, threw him to the ground, and beat him causing him to reasonably fear bodily injury or death, they would be required to acquit.<br /><br />You might not like the fact that you aren't legally permitted to punch someone in response to offensive words but whoever taught Trayvon Martin he was is most responsible for his death.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-9786856481320126792013-07-03T21:16:29.578-04:002013-07-03T21:16:29.578-04:00George Zimmerman gave up any claim of self defense...George Zimmerman gave up any claim of self defense the second he got out of his truck and started walking because that could have caused Trayvon Martin to feel threatened.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-65595260357221663712013-07-03T20:53:26.098-04:002013-07-03T20:53:26.098-04:00Would the Zimmerman haters' minds be changed i...Would the Zimmerman haters' minds be changed if Martin were found with items stolen from one of the homes in the area and it was determined he had just left that home minutes before, when Zimmy first spotted him?<br /><br />One wonders, given how frequently they emphasize "unarmed" and "doing nothing wrong" as if those are relevant factors.<br /><br />It doesn't make a lick of difference legally or ethically that there is no evidence Martin committed or was about to commit a crime that night. Zimmerman did nothing wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-80467624400924495452013-07-03T18:09:26.989-04:002013-07-03T18:09:26.989-04:00The propaganda machine has been pumping crap at yo...The propaganda machine has been pumping crap at you for a long time.<br />Glad to see someone with enough intellectual honesty on the Left to stop swallowing it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-45190858803941469492013-07-03T18:09:25.747-04:002013-07-03T18:09:25.747-04:00When, and only when, his attacker is white.When, and only when, his attacker is white.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-55052028933832852482013-07-03T17:35:17.373-04:002013-07-03T17:35:17.373-04:00That was extremely disturbing, particularly the pa...That was extremely disturbing, particularly the part where Chris Hayes states that even if George Zimmerman's story about what happened is true, that he may not have been justified morally in defending himself. If not under those circumstances, then when?hardindrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05275899305949454964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-21686232663532703202013-07-03T16:56:45.481-04:002013-07-03T16:56:45.481-04:00Well, at least he got the Director of the Movie ri...Well, at least he got the Director of the Movie right.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.com