tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post3895368774916614923..comments2024-03-28T04:12:17.506-04:00Comments on the daily howler: THE FALL: Manifestations of the fall!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger93125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-2007817819534349952022-10-25T12:07:14.590-04:002022-10-25T12:07:14.590-04:00...rump has never sounded presidential.
...came w......rump has never sounded presidential.<br /><br />...came with the package.<br /><br />....baked in the cake<br /><br />Voters who voted for him knew this and appreciated it in a way that would certainly be obscure to you.<br /><br /> I reckon it, rather than condemn it.<br /><br />********************<br />Did you ever hear such absolute bullshit in your life? We know why you supported Trump, Cecelia. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-2010157281759437122022-10-25T10:41:06.675-04:002022-10-25T10:41:06.675-04:00"...your synonym for "der Fuehrer"....<br />"...your synonym for "der Fuehrer"."<br /><br />Why, yes it is, we suppose. It doesn't surprise us in the least that you hitlerian liberals prefer this sort of lingo.<br /><br />...as for the word-salad in question, the very first line of it:<br />"<i>CLAIM: Former President Donald Trump signed an order to deploy 20,000...</i>"<br />leaves no doubt whatsoever. Because, dear dembot, no one has made such a claim. Because everyone with a brain knows that US presidents (unlike your fuehrers) are not allowed to deploy troops inside the US. <br /><br />'nuff said...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-80026050371705852232022-10-25T09:20:35.591-04:002022-10-25T09:20:35.591-04:00God is a figment of dim-witted imaginations.God is a figment of dim-witted imaginations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-48263687227533590812022-10-25T09:16:43.256-04:002022-10-25T09:16:43.256-04:007:17,
Why anyone would listen to those know-nothin...7:17,<br />Why anyone would listen to those know-nothing Right-wingers is beyond me. These morons, who didn't realize the GOP--their party--was a an amoral dumpster fire of bigots and imbeciles until 2016, are now telling the Democratic Party to follow their know-nothing advice.<br />One correction I would make is that Democrats don't call anyone who disagrees with them "racists", which would be wrong. They call Republicans "racists", which I don't understand how anyone could argue with a straight face.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-78238712071139745292022-10-25T09:07:37.750-04:002022-10-25T09:07:37.750-04:00Ac/ MA,
Republicans don't vote for Trump becau...Ac/ MA,<br />Republicans don't vote for Trump because he induces nausea. Republicans vote for Trump because he validates their bigotry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-82482232546864915952022-10-25T08:58:07.021-04:002022-10-25T08:58:07.021-04:00Self-interest is one of the primary traits of soci...Self-interest is one of the primary traits of sociopaths.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-59300338149155966212022-10-25T08:53:32.657-04:002022-10-25T08:53:32.657-04:00Mao, if I may be allowed to translate your words h...Mao, if I may be allowed to translate your words here: 'word salad" - is how you respond to what someone says that you can't refute; "the Commander" [referring to former orange faced POTUS] - your synonym for "der Fuehrer".AC/MAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79772363806777035952022-10-25T07:18:19.148-04:002022-10-25T07:18:19.148-04:00The premise is, however, that Trump and his suppor...The premise is, however, that Trump and his supporters are to be morally excused for their actions by mental instability, and those who don’t join him in excusing Trump are ethically suspect. It’s also now Somerby’s excuse for complete disinterest in Trump’s appalling <br />behavior and it’s criminality. Trump’s <br />behavior, however unhinged, shows <br />a marked pattern of self interest <br />which calls into question if this is<br />mental instability that can be <br />treated sympathetically. You have <br />to question if Bob’s excuse making <br />is even about Trump, it’s just <br />a rationalization for Bob to <br />disparaged the people he <br />hates, MSNBC, etc. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-70576396750267008932022-10-25T07:17:55.214-04:002022-10-25T07:17:55.214-04:00Democrats are represented by and love to quote Max...Democrats are represented by and love to quote Max Boot, Liz Cheney and Rick Wilson, the lowest right wing grifters of them all. It's incredible to see that Democrats are now Republicans - mocking voters who care about the economy and crime and encouraging them to focus more on our war machine. These Democrats who support our war-mongering and who call anyone who doesn't a racist, simply have no values at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-64318901663770987502022-10-25T06:24:57.712-04:002022-10-25T06:24:57.712-04:00Democrats are Republicans now.Democrats are Republicans now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-62569537047257477472022-10-25T06:13:01.226-04:002022-10-25T06:13:01.226-04:00"Helping Ukraine is not warmongering."
..."Helping Ukraine is not warmongering."<br /><br />Eh, may we suggest a better, more precise way to put it? This, for example:<br /><i>Liberal-neocon war-mongering is not helping Ukraine.</i> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-66566543648325788122022-10-25T05:44:59.094-04:002022-10-25T05:44:59.094-04:00Helping Ukraine is warmongering and most certainly...Helping Ukraine is warmongering and most certainly not more important than the economy and crime for voters. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-18597007413040575052022-10-25T00:02:14.587-04:002022-10-25T00:02:14.587-04:00Places where Somerby calls Trump disordered, socio...Places where Somerby calls Trump disordered, sociopathic or psychopathic:<br /><br />6/29/22: "We assume that people who are fundamentally disordered didn't choose to be fundamentally disordered. We assume, for example, that sociopaths didn't choose to be disordered in that unfortunate way.<br /><br />We've always recommended pity for disordered people like Trump. For that reason, we'd be reluctant to mix moral and psychiatric assessments together, as Dodes does in this last statement. " Key phrase "disordered people like Trump", said by Somerby about Trump.<br /><br />6/29/2017 -- "Regarding this latest incident, Donald J. Trump is and will always be deeply disordered." Key phrase "deeply disordered" said by Somerby about Trump.<br /><br />8/27/2019 -- "What might this disordered president imaginably do next year? Start a war? Hack the vote? Do you feel sure where he'd stop?" Key phrase "disordered president" said by Somerby about Trump, after discussing the diagnostic psychiatric analyses and complaining that the press has ignored them.<br /><br />4/8/2020 Under a headline that read Sociopath in Chief, Somerby reproduced the Mayo Clinic checklist of Sociopathic diagnostic criteria, then said:<br /><br />"When we watched the president's performance at last Saturday's televised marathon, we came away thinking that we had watched a rolling check-list of those symptoms and signs.<br /><br />We thought we'd watched a rolling self-diagnosis. We googled the Mayo Clinic's site once again. Check, check, check, we said.<br /><br />("Recurring problems with the law?" Despite the financial power he has long wielded, our president has routinely been in legal trouble on the civil side. His business life has been an extended series of cons and scams. So it goes with the many diagnosable "sociopaths" who aren't Son of Sam.)<br /><br />When he introduced Dr. Dodes, O'Donnell said this: "Some mental health professionals, like our next guest, believe that the president's mental health...will continue to be in decline."<br /><br />The president's absurd behavior at yesterday's "briefing" suggested that this prediction may have been correct. For ourselves, we've been telling you since last year that we may not even have a presidential election this fall."<br /><br />4/9/2020 -- Again under the headline Sociopath in Chief, Somerby first describes the etiology of socipathy and narcissistic personality disorder, then says:<br /><br />"Was he subjected to child abuse? We have no way of knowing. He was sent to military school at the age of 13. This may be a suggestion that something was already wrong.<br /><br />We've suggested before that we should pity the child who was Donald Trump while opposing the actions of the man. We think our resistance would be more effective were it paired with a dollop of pity—with a tragic view of the world.<br /><br />At the president's nightly gong show, our press corps sits supine before him. As we expect to discuss next week, they're rarely willing to challenge his ludicrous claims and his appalling behaviors." The discussion of causes of a disorder clearly implies that the person being discussed has that disorder, since Somerby is seeking causes of it, not arguing whether he has it or not.<br /><br />There are more, if I use a search term such as mental illness instead of sociopathy. Somerby uses such terms interchangeably to refer to Trump. And he has been doing this for a long time, citing Dodes and Bandy Lee as authorities and complaining because the press doesn't label Trump mentally ill. Somerby is not expressing uncertainty or evading giving his opinion -- he is repeatedly asking why the press won't raise the question of Trump's sanity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-90678768213603293482022-10-24T23:39:06.847-04:002022-10-24T23:39:06.847-04:00Fetterman is like Ventura. Trump is a soft man-bab...Fetterman is like Ventura. Trump is a soft man-baby, like Gerald Ford except much dumber and with bad hair. Trump attracts the focus to himself because he is a narcissist. You don't blame people for paying attention to someone who is constantly seeking it. If you cannot figure out who to support these days, that is your bad judgment. You can't even figure out who the trolls are here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-73795430084015215792022-10-24T23:34:10.382-04:002022-10-24T23:34:10.382-04:00I find it odd that Somerby so frequently uses Bibl...I find it odd that Somerby so frequently uses Biblical call outs, such as talking about Babel and the fall. Are these code for Christian Nationalists, some sort of Q-Anon reference? Somerby selected these phrases, so he must have some purpose or intend some meaning, despite their lack of relevance to anything else he says today. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-8376217281074346422022-10-24T23:30:56.315-04:002022-10-24T23:30:56.315-04:00Cecilia - I kind of get it, I think. Politicians ...Cecilia - I kind of get it, I think. Politicians are mealy mouthed, it's so much BS (they kind of have to be, given that they are trying to attract votes from conflicting blocs), Trump isn't presidential, kind of in the mold of Jesse Ventura (who Trump studied). Is he a guy exposing the king is wearing no clothes are a clever con artist? Is it some type of bizarre mass hysteria that's got us to this state where its Trump, trump, Trump all the time. I've always found him nauseating, I admit. Is it a matter of taste, or some people have keener judgment? Maybe you can't explain the phenomenon because there is no plausible way for it to be done. I see mass hysteria all over the place, on both sides, it's not a pleasant sight. AC/MAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-41194406346452660672022-10-24T23:10:04.132-04:002022-10-24T23:10:04.132-04:00Agree, voters should hear more about about steppin...Agree, voters should hear more about about stepping-up anti-trust regulations and enforcement to combat inflation. You can't have runaway inflation in competitive markets.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-252312131113501632022-10-24T23:01:45.172-04:002022-10-24T23:01:45.172-04:00Helping Ukraine is not warmongering.Helping Ukraine is not warmongering.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-15384319258490353792022-10-24T22:29:59.365-04:002022-10-24T22:29:59.365-04:00Fn Max Boot, the lowest, lying scumbag warmonger o...Fn Max Boot, the lowest, lying scumbag warmonger of them all tells voters they're wrong to worry about the economy and they should worry about wars we are funding in foreign countries instead. And this stupid idiot believes him. <br /><br />That's the Democratic party now? Posting quotes from Max Boot claiming our warmongering abroad is more important to voters than the economy?<br /><br />It took 20 years but Democrats have completely turned into Republicans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-39826944848003814612022-10-24T22:16:13.508-04:002022-10-24T22:16:13.508-04:00Cecelia’s comments here do not merit response. It ...Cecelia’s comments here do not merit response. It certainly has nothing to do with the comments at the top, She’s just babbling. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-48218299009636347842022-10-24T21:36:47.599-04:002022-10-24T21:36:47.599-04:00Anonymouse 7:25pm, you can’t quit me. That’s excus...Anonymouse 7:25pm, you can’t quit me. That’s excuse enough. Ceceliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162272807640653299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-36861834991849016022022-10-24T21:09:32.236-04:002022-10-24T21:09:32.236-04:00Mao, do you mean Bob pulls the line behind him?Mao, do you mean Bob pulls the line behind him?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-8986100666463552442022-10-24T20:59:44.012-04:002022-10-24T20:59:44.012-04:00No, bloodlust is their only gear.No, bloodlust is their only gear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-61311189476065029322022-10-24T20:18:30.630-04:002022-10-24T20:18:30.630-04:00Meh. Dear Bob does tow the party line on every iss...<br />Meh. Dear Bob does tow the party line on every issue. <br /><br />It's just that he's concerned about low quality of dembottery. <br /><br />He naively believes that higher quality dembottery is possible, and that it might fool some normal people. <br /><br />Which is, of course, absurd. No matter how you present wimmin trapped inside men's bodies, or russiagate, or late-term abortion on demand, or any other commandment from the dembot bible, no amount of lipstick will make this pig pretty...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-56664642625144934252022-10-24T19:48:30.455-04:002022-10-24T19:48:30.455-04:00Somerby has repeatedly suggested that the possibil...Somerby has repeatedly suggested that the possibility that Trump is a sociopath should be a prominent topic of discussion. That is not opining that Trump is a psychopath.<br /><br />It's no wonder you get so frustrated. You compulsively misunderstand what he says. You want him to tow the party line on every issue like all the other blogs you read.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com