tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post4157973103225961363..comments2024-03-28T08:51:18.908-04:00Comments on the daily howler: OUTSCORING FINLAND: Muddling ahead!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-30834564268921482092013-12-03T15:28:32.211-05:002013-12-03T15:28:32.211-05:00KZ, Bob was clearly referring to the confusion cre...KZ, Bob was clearly referring to the confusion created by the article, he was not trying to imply that the US was in fact above average on the 2012 PISA. In fact it would be rather easy to to assume that the US outperformed the average because of the unclear way in which the article presents the data (i.e. ordinal rankings). Does the article mention OECD averages anywhere? I don't believe it does, which is an oversight on the part of the article's author, not Bob's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-59267237931820393502013-12-03T13:52:43.042-05:002013-12-03T13:52:43.042-05:00There was a nice quote in the original article tha...There was a nice quote in the original article that said all these international test scores are pretty meaningless and unimportant to discussions about the state of US education.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-12788262655679584172013-12-03T13:48:02.545-05:002013-12-03T13:48:02.545-05:00One sign of weak reporting in Ms. Rich's artic...One sign of weak reporting in Ms. Rich's articles that you did not mention was the two magic words used by reporters when they don't actually have facts: the adverb is "increasingly" and the adjective is "growing", as in:<br /><br />In the midst of increasingly polarized discussions about...<br />An increasingly vocal group of parents, teachers, union leaders and others have also objected ...<br />In the midst of increasingly polarized discussions about...<br />A growing chorus of critics have said that...<br />Amid growing alarm over ...<br /><br />These phrases are a way of putting an opinion in a news article without citing the source of the opinion (usually the author, her/his self)Walthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16646713927903307628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-86574670729133714382013-12-03T13:45:22.156-05:002013-12-03T13:45:22.156-05:00OMB (Unlike the SEC, there are no patsies for the...OMB (Unlike the SEC, there are no patsies for the USofA to play)<br /><br />"Finland “outperformed the averages?” At a glance, a reader might reasonably assume that the U.S. outperformed the averages too! "<br /><br />Sadly, only the average BOB reader might reasonably assume that. To the actual reader of real PISA results the US was below the OECD average on two of the three tests. And this testing season we were skunked by Poland and Ireland. Zip outta six.<br /><br />I can't wait for BOB to invent a new stat to explain that over the last sumpty-sumpin years, U.S. average score gains combined show the Irish to be nothing more than a bunch of dumb Polacks. <br /><br />Geaux Tigers! (Asiatic variety, not the ones from the Cudzu Conference.)<br /><br />KZ Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-59147987841481303912013-12-03T13:25:02.478-05:002013-12-03T13:25:02.478-05:00Hatred? For what -- Irish or minors?Hatred? For what -- Irish or minors?deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-11612217413716015282013-12-03T11:16:19.210-05:002013-12-03T11:16:19.210-05:00tamo&#etc.
You would think old BOB, being tot...tamo&#etc.<br /><br />You would think old BOB, being totally obsessed with test scores, might figure that what was comparable about Poland, Ireland, and the U.S. was their test scores on the last round of the tests which are the subject of article.<br /><br />We are constantly puzzled by BOB's reporting, especially given his background. He graduated from some school in Boston back when Ho wasn't just a rap put down.<br /><br />KZ<br /><br /><br /><br />Perhaps reading the Salone article.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-48546230322213138482013-12-03T11:03:53.171-05:002013-12-03T11:03:53.171-05:00is it any wonder I regard KZ as sharing my genius ...is it any wonder I regard KZ as sharing my genius ... so, following his lead and keeping to whats important, I ask how can this stand: "the Irish question is minor" ... could Somerby make his hatred any plainer?tam o'douchebagnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-85609979551314387032013-12-03T09:58:05.860-05:002013-12-03T09:58:05.860-05:00OMB
When you disaggregate Coach BOB, will you ple...OMB<br /><br />When you disaggregate Coach BOB, will you please compare how the SEC states did versus the PAC-12?<br /><br />KZ Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com