tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post4398242711324970035..comments2024-03-19T03:07:15.293-04:00Comments on the daily howler: THE AGE OF BELIEF: Truly believing at Rolling Stone!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-89602927897473110232014-12-29T02:27:49.817-05:002014-12-29T02:27:49.817-05:00yoga pants, yoga pants,lululemon,lululemon outlet,...<a href="http://www.yoga-pants.in.net/" rel="nofollow">yoga pants</a>, <a href="http://www.yoga-pants.in.net/" rel="nofollow">yoga pants,lululemon,lululemon outlet,lululemon athletica,lululemon addict,lulu lemon,lulu.com,lululemon.com</a>, <a href="http://www.beats-bydre.in.net/" rel="nofollow">beats by dre</a>, <a href="http://www.beats-bydre.in.net/" rel="nofollow">beats by dre,beats headphones,beats audio,beats by dr dre,beats by dre headphones,dr dre,dre beats,beats by dr,dr dre beats,dre headphones,beats by dr. dre,cheap beats</a>, <a href="http://www.ferragamosale.in.net/" rel="nofollow">ferragamo</a>, <a href="http://www.ferragamosale.in.net/" rel="nofollow">ferragamo,salvatore ferragamo,ferragamo shoes,ferragamo outlet,salvatore ferragamo outlet,ferragamo belts,ferragamo belt,ferragamo outlet</a>, <a href="http://www.nike--blazer.fr/" rel="nofollow">nike blazer</a>, <a href="http://www.nike--blazer.fr/" rel="nofollow">nike blazer,blazer nike,nike blazer pas cher,Chaussures Nike Blazer,Nike Blazer Femme</a>, <a href="http://www.nike-air-force.fr/" rel="nofollow">nike air force</a>, <a href="http://www.nike-air-force.fr/" rel="nofollow">nike air force,air force,nike air force 1,nike air force one,air force one nike,air force 1,air force one</a>, <a href="http://www.michaelkorsoutlet.me.uk/" rel="nofollow">michael kors outlet</a>, <a href="http://www.michaelkorsoutlet.me.uk/" rel="nofollow">michael kors outlet,michael kors handbags,michael kors uk,michael kors,michael kors,michael kors bags</a>, <a href="http://www.cheapjerseys.in.net/" rel="nofollow">cheap jerseys</a>, <a href="http://www.cheapjerseys.in.net/" rel="nofollow">cheap jerseys,nfl jerseys,cheap nfl jerseys,jerseys from china,cheap jerseys from china</a>, <a href="http://www.burberryuk.me.uk/" rel="nofollow">burberry uk</a>, <a href="http://www.burberryuk.me.uk/" rel="nofollow">burberry</a>, <a href="http://www.timberlandboots-uk.me.uk/" rel="nofollow">timberland boots uk</a>, <a href="http://www.timberlandboots-uk.me.uk/" rel="nofollow">timberland</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03046547847322060887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-45288922182609584882014-12-09T14:29:58.645-05:002014-12-09T14:29:58.645-05:00Speculation, but not wild speculation: the atmosph... Speculation, but not wild speculation: the atmosphere is so poisoned at this point Rolling Stone set out to prove the evil of white men is such that it's better to show you are willing to trust any young rape victim, because even if they were not raped, in the bigger picture of Evil White Maleness, it's essentially true anyway. As Mary Elizabeth Williams wrote on Salon, "it is so much worse to be a rape victim than to be falsely accused of rape." How long a jail sentence, one wonders, is Ms Williams willing to tolerate for latter? <br /> Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-63295792900157699742014-12-09T10:32:54.336-05:002014-12-09T10:32:54.336-05:00"In the political realm, some of these hoaxes..."In the political realm, some of these hoaxes have changed the history of the world—and we liberals still refuse to acknowledge the fact that these hoaxes even occurred!"<br /><br />I guess "liberals" are a lot like "whites" described by Dyson in the piece described in the other post Bob wrote Monday. Always seeing things the wrong way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79634998582832276172014-12-09T10:17:24.647-05:002014-12-09T10:17:24.647-05:00Sure. Why would anyone object to a flattering glam...Sure. Why would anyone object to a flattering glamour shot of a terrorist on the RS cover when RS could just as easily used a relevant photo of Djokhar like the one linked below. <br /><br />http://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-photos-of-dzhokhar-tsarnaevs-capture-released/cicerohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12472612909567425204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-51791208364007615942014-12-09T10:06:29.202-05:002014-12-09T10:06:29.202-05:00Do you? It is chock full of opinion pieces. Pleas...Do you? It is chock full of opinion pieces. Please link to a hard news story they ever broke or revealed new information? Are you actually defending Erdely's attempt at covering a story?<br /><br />New Yorker current issue:<br /><br />Out Loud: Famous on YouTube<br />The Real Crisis of Journalism<br />Should the Democrats Give Up on the South?<br />Postscript: Ralph Baer, a Video-Game Pioneer<br />Where the Streets Have a Name: Seven Addresses that Defined the News in 2014<br />cicerohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12472612909567425204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-11160973950620223562014-12-09T00:07:24.519-05:002014-12-09T00:07:24.519-05:00Look, everyone is ignorant about something at some...Look, everyone is ignorant about something at some time. I was wrong once. 1967. May, the third week if I recall.<br /><br />Interested parties making self-serving charges don't impress me much. As an expert on bad behavior on video, you think differently. deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-59740915712262528002014-12-08T23:00:33.931-05:002014-12-08T23:00:33.931-05:00Do you read the New Yorker? They do investigative...Do you read the New Yorker? They do investigative journalism and news reporting in every issue pretty much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-78224247969175371542014-12-08T22:16:49.567-05:002014-12-08T22:16:49.567-05:00Yes, everyone is an ignoramus but you. Yes, everyone is an ignoramus but you. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-86538332538986927812014-12-08T21:39:25.089-05:002014-12-08T21:39:25.089-05:00Sorry, but I can't tell one anonymous ignoramu...Sorry, but I can't tell one anonymous ignoramus from another.deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-39418948946764990382014-12-08T21:13:27.206-05:002014-12-08T21:13:27.206-05:00I wasn't there and I'm not making any clai...I wasn't there and I'm not making any claim. You said the police made that claim. I said the absence of video didn't falsify their claim. I have seen enough bad behavior on video that I wouldn't dispute them. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-42902930756923317912014-12-08T20:24:03.679-05:002014-12-08T20:24:03.679-05:00I'm not claiming there weren't any such ch...I'm not claiming there weren't any such chants. You're the one claiming there were. That puts the burdens of production and proof on you. I'm pointing out that you haven't shouldered them.<br /><br />The police are no more likely to hear such chants than anyone else present and much more likely to exaggerate their number. What you find odd isn't evidence.<br /><br />I don't know whether there were zero, one, or more people chanting "Kill the police." And were there no video, I would have weighed the number and credibility of witnesses to Brown's father's statement. Including Brown's father himself.<br />deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-44294611885042369412014-12-08T18:30:04.795-05:002014-12-08T18:30:04.795-05:00The offense taken by the Djokhar picture was idiot...The offense taken by the Djokhar picture was idiotic.AC/MAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-16680076574267634962014-12-08T16:10:57.601-05:002014-12-08T16:10:57.601-05:00That video would have to be very comprehensive to ...That video would have to be very comprehensive to rule out any such chants. Police would be more likely to hear such chants, if any occurred, since they are aimed at them and are threatening them. I would find it odd if there were not threatening chants, given the out-of-control behavior that occurred in Ferguson and other places on other occasions. I suppose you would have denied that Brown's father said anything about burning anything down, if there were not video of him doing it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-63178953817732196692014-12-08T15:37:30.161-05:002014-12-08T15:37:30.161-05:00Blow says in the excerpt above:
"If we are a...Blow says in the excerpt above:<br /><br />"If we are all created equal, shouldn’t we all be treated equally? Anything less is an affront to our ideals."<br /><br />While we are all considered equal under the law and are endowed with certain inalienable rights on that basis, we are clearly not all equal in fact. People are all different.<br /><br />Treated different people equally when they require different treatment to meet their needs, has been shown to be unequal treatment under the law. For example, failing to give a child with special needs an appropriate education is considered unequal treatment.<br /><br />So, the goal is not to treat everyone equally but to treat everyone justly, fairly, with respect for differences and recognition of the life circumstances and contexts in which we find ourselves. <br /><br />Democracy has always been plagued by the problem that inequalities of birth and circumstance make a mockery of the assumption that simply providing equal treatment will result in equal opportunity for all. Our education system is designed to help remedy that so that children from all walks of life will have an equal chance at success in a competitive capitalist society. So far, we are finding that education alone cannot make up for inequalities existing at birth. If we are not willing to invest in further efforts to level the playing field, then we must abandon the fiction that we are all equal (in any sense) and accept that we live in the same kind of tiered society based on privileges of wealth and birth that other people around the world inhabit.<br /><br />In any case, Blow sounds very simple-minded to me when he says stuff like that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-44079724801189027332014-12-08T15:14:20.959-05:002014-12-08T15:14:20.959-05:00By your rubric, RS scores with every issue. RS is ...By your rubric, RS scores with every issue. RS is to news what MUFON is to the disciplines of history and science. cicerohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12472612909567425204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-23658420350236201192014-12-08T15:04:24.580-05:002014-12-08T15:04:24.580-05:00Rolling Stone is like Mother Jones, agenda trumps...Rolling Stone is like Mother Jones, agenda trumps journalism and ethics. The bio of Sabrina Rubin Erdely indicates she has written for SELF, GQ, The New Yorker, Mother Jones, Glamour and Men’s Health. None of these publications is known for investigative journalism or even basic news reporting. <br /><br />Sabrina's bio also says:<br /><br />"For the sake of her articles, Erdely has trekked through Tibet, watched an autopsy, joined a religious cult, visited maximum-security prisons, and once tried out to be a Philadelphia Eagles cheerleader."<br /><br /> Had she shown the same interest in signing up for a journalism course she might have discovered the basic tenets of journalism. Perhaps if the Eagles were desperate enough to fill their cheerleading ranks, college campus rape prevention wouldn't now be suffering the sins of one wannabe Bob Woodward. cicerohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12472612909567425204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-23929402657539986802014-12-08T13:57:49.706-05:002014-12-08T13:57:49.706-05:00The source for the claim of chants "Kill the ...The source for the claim of chants "Kill the Police!" came from ... the police. Video of the crowds don't support the claim. The medical examiner's folks spent two hours on the scene. The police chief eventually called out his militarized force before the governor stepped in. deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79032132028128886652014-12-08T13:52:56.502-05:002014-12-08T13:52:56.502-05:00@1:43 It is truly amazing what you have to do to g...@1:43 It is truly amazing what you have to do to get the media to pay attention when an unarmed man is shot by the police. If everyone had just stayed home, then having police shoot unarmed men can be safely ignored. Nothing to see here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-48751181268544612432014-12-08T13:48:31.953-05:002014-12-08T13:48:31.953-05:00At a college reunion, my wife had a conversation w...At a college reunion, my wife had a conversation with a classmate that went something like this:<br />"Oh, were you depressed, too? You always seemed so happy."<br /><br />"Oh, I didn't know <i>you</i> were depressed. <i>I</i> was depressed."<br /><br />The point is, lots of college students get depressed for a zillion reasons. It's one thing to observe that there was a change in Jackie's demeanor. It's quite a leap to then decide that the change was due to being sexually assaulted.David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-30251367529837752662014-12-08T13:43:22.984-05:002014-12-08T13:43:22.984-05:00Amazing how everyone forgets why Ferguson became a...Amazing how everyone forgets why Ferguson became a national story. The story broke in real time while a crowd of people gathered to chant "Kill the Police!" while gunshots rang out in the air preventing the coroner from safely gathering the body. And story perpetuated because the lame Police Chief did nothing but capitulate to the mob.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-78010396346441064672014-12-08T13:39:40.052-05:002014-12-08T13:39:40.052-05:00They should have been humiliated after putting Djo...They should have been humiliated after putting Djokhar on the cover. Now they are remembered for TWO things! They know what they are doing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-10937308340619873072014-12-08T13:31:03.288-05:002014-12-08T13:31:03.288-05:00In the letter you linked to, the "friend"...In the letter you linked to, the "friend" does not offer any details about the night in question. In fact, at one point she admits she does not know what happened that night. Did you read it?A. Pereznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-58904223194006034492014-12-08T13:24:18.096-05:002014-12-08T13:24:18.096-05:00When you examine how well something functions, suc...When you examine how well something functions, such as our brains, you have to do that in reference to some purpose. The purpose of our brain is to allow us to respond to our environment flexibly in order to survive as a species. Period. Exaltation of mind and human beings, especially the kind of language Somerby points out here, arises from religion and the belief that whatever we consider good about humanity comes from association with God (either creation in his image or striving to be admirable in His eyes). I think we are finding such language kind of ludicrous these days because scientists are increasingly non-religious and society itself is becoming more secular. Human exceptionalism is falling by the wayside.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-49775125894653995882014-12-08T13:02:24.061-05:002014-12-08T13:02:24.061-05:00Yes. That would give you three (3) "high-pro...Yes. That would give you three (3) "high-profile incidents which “make easy focal points for rallying cries.” <br /><br />Oh the folly of the human brain for focusing on three<br />high-profile "individual cases, like the recent ones,(which) hit us as discrete and concrete, about particular unarmed black men killed by particular policemen." Well, make that two black men and on child.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-88142152180242354582014-12-08T12:36:37.307-05:002014-12-08T12:36:37.307-05:00As a UVa alumnus, along with my sainted wife, I wa...As a UVa alumnus, along with my sainted wife, I was happy to see that most students commenting about the Cavalier Daily letter correctly pointed out that "Jackie's" seeming depression and her ever-evolving tales of sexual trauma don't prove that anything actually happened to her at all. There's simply no telling. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com