tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post4440159823770729674..comments2024-03-29T00:25:24.008-04:00Comments on the daily howler: THE WARNINGS FROM JOURNALIST COUNTY: Times passes!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-13954451564328414872014-09-13T08:37:47.538-04:002014-09-13T08:37:47.538-04:00She also bragged about her tendency to over prepar...She also bragged about her tendency to over prepare. Too bad she didn't bring that tendency to bear on her disastrous meet the press performance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-27905916787594352692014-09-13T08:30:54.124-04:002014-09-13T08:30:54.124-04:00If that repetition bothers you, I would try to fin...If that repetition bothers you, I would try to find a way to make peace with it because Bob will not stop repeating that and those facts and all the other ones he repeats until the media changes or he dies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-43290687425877780342014-09-13T08:11:47.461-04:002014-09-13T08:11:47.461-04:00"Bears no resemblance" lol."Bears no resemblance" lol. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-13189074291232537442014-09-13T07:53:45.441-04:002014-09-13T07:53:45.441-04:00In the interview, he accuses her of "bending ...In the interview, he accuses her of "bending the rules of journalism". "improperly elevating partisan distinctions between us". "Amplifying the divisions" between us", reporting news that are "conversation stoppers", "delegitimizing" her "political adversaries", "fighting fire with fire", he says on cable news, "left versus right is or seems to be only what matters and that that is a fun house mirror into what actually matters."<br /><br />A few of the times he is speaking directly about her and other times he is speaking about cable news in general but make no mistake, those criticisms are aimed at her show, her writers, her performance. He is not excluding her show from any of his criticisms. He saying a lot of the same things Bob says. She disagrees which is fair. And I know you do too which is also fair. But if you look at that as simply a nice conversation and can't see his criticism, you need to research it further and really think about it a little harder.<br /><br />Have a good one, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-91115061507014576342014-09-13T00:54:55.551-04:002014-09-13T00:54:55.551-04:00please stop here and read up my story,thanks to Dr...<br /> please stop here and read up my story,thanks to Dr Brave for bringing back my wife,and brought great joy to my family once again"<br /><br />Hello to every one out here, am here to share the unexpected miracle that happened to me three days ago, My name is Jeffrey Dowling,i live in TEXAS,USA.and I`m happily married to a lovely and caring wife,with two kids A very big problem occurred in my family seven months ago,between me and my wife so terrible that she took the case to court for a divorce she said that she never wanted to stay with me again,and that she did not love me anymore So she packed out of my house and made me and my children passed through severe pain. 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So thanks to Dr Brave for bringing back my wife,and brought great joy to my family once again.{bravespellcaster@gmail.com} , Thanks.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08265022066167151946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-64859295925414967132014-09-12T23:05:32.879-04:002014-09-12T23:05:32.879-04:00Someone who thinks we haven't been fighting un...Someone who thinks we haven't been fighting undeclared and declared military actions since we were a colony knows nothing about history. You haven't supplied a reason why anyone should read this book.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-75020053105812096392014-09-12T21:11:42.591-04:002014-09-12T21:11:42.591-04:00That is the one I am referring to. Where they disa...That is the one I am referring to. Where they disagree about the role she plays in presenting the news. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-59057120960068419682014-09-12T14:03:19.691-04:002014-09-12T14:03:19.691-04:00Conversely, I love it when Bob gets riled and jump...Conversely, I love it when Bob gets riled and jumps on his soap box to proclaim the end of civilization as we know it because of the existence of one show on a lightly watched network.<br /><br />Kinda like its sorta fun watching the old coot down the street scream about those damned kids who keep walking across his lawn.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-4990672861323498002014-09-12T13:59:53.538-04:002014-09-12T13:59:53.538-04:00I would say that a "major introvert" wou...I would say that a "major introvert" would have trouble getting elected dog catcher, let alone president. But I would also not call Al Gore a "major introvert."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-55247171812088184062014-09-12T13:47:36.262-04:002014-09-12T13:47:36.262-04:00Why get hung up about "since WW2"? And h...Why get hung up about "since WW2"? And how does that undermine the argument of a book you obviously haven't read?<br /><br />My use of the phrase "since WW2" was because we haven't fought a declared war since, but we sure seem to have fought a lot of wars.<br /><br />You would understand that if you read the book. But why would any Bobfan do such a thing? After all isn't see a piddly, perspiring, creaming, money-grubbing clown who lies about her skills on the shooting range and how she bought her first TV? <br /><br />You know. The critical issues that Bob has devoted the autumn of his years to exposing.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-78328625168359352452014-09-12T12:45:08.416-04:002014-09-12T12:45:08.416-04:00I think Somerby nailed it when he referred to Madd...I think Somerby nailed it when he referred to Maddow as "a wasted draft pick". Sports fans will understand. The description of her program as "a progressive sponge bath" was also classic. I love it when he gets the Maddow fans all riled up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-68205359624346783542014-09-12T12:39:44.454-04:002014-09-12T12:39:44.454-04:00Should presidents be elected based on their person...Should presidents be elected based on their personality or their skill set and knowledge? You seem to be suggesting that if someone is a major introvert they have no business in politics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-18495768387317552752014-09-12T12:04:19.370-04:002014-09-12T12:04:19.370-04:00Glenn Greenwald does not like MS NBC or Rachel Mad...Glenn Greenwald does not like MS NBC or Rachel Maddow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-25814862201898248752014-09-12T11:53:49.946-04:002014-09-12T11:53:49.946-04:00It's like some of the posters here feel like l...It's like some of the posters here feel like logic doesn't apply to them. It's okay to disagree, to feel pain about what is said here, to suffer, that's cool I understand but logic still applies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-53432163644564553092014-09-12T11:51:57.291-04:002014-09-12T11:51:57.291-04:00No. I knew the first time I saw him speak to a mo...No. I knew the first time I saw him speak to a modest sized dinner of Democrats when he ran for President in 1988 what happened to him and would continue to happen to him. <br /><br />He was raised by overachieving parents to be Oliver Barrett IV, but he had too much woodeness in his delivery to be likeable to a mass electorate and avoid dislike and parody by close observers. He therefore lacked what it took to be a sympatheric lead character for a novel or film, so he had to be supplemented by a more down home type, like Tommy Lee Jones.<br /><br />I was able to imagine in the future whoever was chosen to supplement would supplant. Unfortunately it was the wrong prep school educated boy from Texas. Tommy Lee would never have invaded Iraq.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-43675524438692795142014-09-12T11:13:29.679-04:002014-09-12T11:13:29.679-04:009:17 your response employs the tu Quoque Fallacy o...9:17 your response employs the tu Quoque Fallacy of logic. Have a good weekend.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-67376120626836303232014-09-12T11:10:38.802-04:002014-09-12T11:10:38.802-04:009:13. If you watch Maddow's hour-long intervie...9:13. If you watch Maddow's hour-long interview with Stuart he is trying to tell her something. He does not seem to like her performance. Have you watched it? I will stop posting that though just for you my friend. He's trying to tell her something though. He dislikes her performance, it's very, very clear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-51354855359981885212014-09-12T11:06:44.078-04:002014-09-12T11:06:44.078-04:00Urban , your point about all your liberal friends ...Urban , your point about all your liberal friends liking Maddow speaks to Bob's point he talks about her being pleasing to liberals. Giving liberals what they'd like to hear. Do they like her, not dislike her, because what she says feels good, panders to their lower instincts? Isn't this what Bob's point is? Are these pleasing feelings that you and your friends have good for progresses in the long run, or are they just pleasing in the short run? In the same way that a big Mac is pleasing and gives pleasure and is easy to like when you eat it but in the long run really messes you up? Just a thought, not a value judgment or an attempt on my part to put you down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-33330966023334875322014-09-12T10:20:29.049-04:002014-09-12T10:20:29.049-04:00Why start with "since WWII"? There is co...Why start with "since WWII"? There is convincing evidence that FDR began conducting WWII long before Pearl Harbor. But that would undermine the "drift" argument. Lots of undeclared wars before WWII too. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-63122264253845840482014-09-12T10:18:23.042-04:002014-09-12T10:18:23.042-04:00If he had completed his book, what would you be sa...If he had completed his book, what would you be saying about it now? Do you need the rest of the book to know what happened to Gore?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-30506147407656703322014-09-12T10:15:22.821-04:002014-09-12T10:15:22.821-04:00Huffpo has not published "many articles and c...Huffpo has not published "many articles and columns in praise of Hillary Clinton." They also never show an attractive picture of her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-33833398463801643872014-09-12T10:10:35.582-04:002014-09-12T10:10:35.582-04:00Founding fathers. Great phrase. Sounds like Free...Founding fathers. Great phrase. Sounds like Freedom.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-14659644558761647022014-09-12T10:08:58.530-04:002014-09-12T10:08:58.530-04:00Please, 8:15. You seem like you might be a nice p...Please, 8:15. You seem like you might be a nice person.<br /><br />May we converse? In order to avoid being asked to "go away" or be called a troll or, even worse, a douchebag troll, please do not remind the faithful Bob Somerby never completed has timely book on the 2000 election which he began posting in 2010.<br /><br />Allow us to rewrite for you:<br /><br />"Well, check that. Both books are Shakespeare compared to <strong>ever-incomparable</strong> "How He Got There."<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-77632803440048608182014-09-12T09:17:21.203-04:002014-09-12T09:17:21.203-04:00Strawman fallacy?
It's the Somerby way.
That...Strawman fallacy?<br /><br />It's the Somerby way.<br /><br />That's how Maureen Dowd became the most influential journalist of the last 30 years, Fawn Brodie wrote the most influential book of the last 30 years, Meredith Vieira's house shows the corruption of the entire news media, Walter and David were such brilliant, no-nonsense "gatekeepers" and world history changed when reporters wrote mean things about Al, who was certain to win in a landslide otherwise.<br /><br />Strawmen are easier to build up and tear down than facing the truth.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-24562237206838225512014-09-12T09:13:22.160-04:002014-09-12T09:13:22.160-04:009:02, will you ever come up with another line besi...9:02, will you ever come up with another line besides "Jon Stewart doesn't like her either." Which is blatantly false.<br /><br />Or does Stewart also do your thinking for you in addition to Somerby?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com