tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post4447794585087559667..comments2024-03-29T06:44:19.414-04:00Comments on the daily howler: The bungling of Candidate Ryan!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-2611831476030774512012-08-14T15:04:26.821-04:002012-08-14T15:04:26.821-04:00Actually, the Ryan plan outlines bringing down hea...Actually, the Ryan plan outlines bringing down health spending costs through competitive bidding from private insurers where the govt picks up the tab for those citizens who chose the first or the second lowest bid. <br /><br />CeceliaMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16017255006204800193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-12585417217065982562012-08-14T14:54:51.385-04:002012-08-14T14:54:51.385-04:00If the rich are so dastardly, can't you at lea...If the rich are so dastardly, can't you at least credit them and regular joes with SOME sense? I mean granted they couldn't have your brilliance... but the joes did manage to install a new regime in '08, in the hope that things would get better economically. And the evil rich were smart enough to see that handwriting on the wall where they hedged their bets, as they generally do.<br /><br />I don't think you have to declare the whole country a version of The Manchurian Capitalist Candidate as yet...CeceliaMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16017255006204800193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-88191109498350497522012-08-14T09:44:55.366-04:002012-08-14T09:44:55.366-04:00Hard to tell what the Kemp wing actually 'beli...Hard to tell what the Kemp wing actually 'believes' versus what they say they believe. Personally, I do not believe that they believe their magic beans will work. Nor do they really care about growth or jobs. What they know and what they care about is providing tax windfalls for the rich. How do I know that? Because that is what their plan does, first and foremost and directly. There is no faith involved in that. You don't have to "believe" it, because you can KNOW it.<br /><br />That $1.7 trillion in tax cuts extended in 2010 went directly into their pockets. It also seems obvious to me, that having given $1.7 trillion to the upper classes, it is easy to get some of that back in campaign donations. It's an easy calculation. $1.7 billion "invested" now brings a 1000% return over ten years.<br /><br />With that $1.7 billion you can flood the airwaves to convince Jack that the magic beans really will work, and you can buy politicians who will say they believe in it.<br /><br />Ryan provides an example. If you promote the true belief, you can go far. Heretics, such as the moderate state senators in Kansas, will be defeated in primary challenges.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-30110167114674636882012-08-14T07:44:36.829-04:002012-08-14T07:44:36.829-04:00Ryan comes from the Jack Kemp growth wing of the R...Ryan comes from the Jack Kemp growth wing of the Republican Party. He believes cutting taxes will create growth, and the growth will pay down the deficit. He pays lip service to the cutting of entitlements, but he would cut taxes whether he can cut entitlements or not. This distinguishes him from the tea party which would cut spending now, although probably without the realization that cutting spending means cutting Social Security and Medicare, programs that are widely popular including with members of the tea party.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-51674703872248647842012-08-13T23:16:23.815-04:002012-08-13T23:16:23.815-04:00The working class of China or India?The working class of China or India?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-55805311780166512942012-08-13T23:16:09.255-04:002012-08-13T23:16:09.255-04:00Ryan submitted his budget plan to the CBO for anal...Ryan submitted his budget plan to the CBO for analysis. In some cases the CBO stated that for the budgets projections to work would require additional legislation or other changes that were not specified in the plan.<br /><br />The CBO also concluded that there would be a reduction in Medicare and Medicaid services and that Medicare recipients would pay a larger share of their incomes after Medicare coverage for medical expenses.<br /><br />The Ryan plan is partial in details leaving faith and imagination to fill in the supposed deficit reductions.<br />A projection of Ryan's plan does show a reduction in the deficit, but it does not detail where the money is supposed to come from.<br /><br />Ryan's plan does nothing less than sell out the poor and the middle class and uses the money taken from them and bumps it upward to the upper two percent.<br /><br />Why would anyone vote for Romney, who is an expert at screwing over taxpayers, (the government?)gcwallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07990785263482839943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-17299173273730912992012-08-13T20:34:56.723-04:002012-08-13T20:34:56.723-04:00What Romney/Ryan will give the working class is wo...What Romney/Ryan will give the working class is work.David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-83272760130097100372012-08-13T19:49:53.457-04:002012-08-13T19:49:53.457-04:00"Obama stated" vs the media reporting so..."Obama stated" vs the media reporting something as a fact. I suspect there's an important difference there, but it's only a faint suspicion.TILhttp://til.tknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-72447383925644849012012-08-13T19:47:20.505-04:002012-08-13T19:47:20.505-04:00And on February 23, 2009:
http://www.whitehouse.g...And on February 23, 2009:<br /><br />http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/remarks-president-and-vice-president-opening-fiscal-responsibility-summit-2-23-09<br /><br />This administration has inherited a $1.3 trillion deficit -- the largest in our nation's history -- and our investments to rescue our economy will add to that deficit in the short term. We also have long-term challenges -- health care, energy, education and others -- that we can no longer afford to ignore.<br />But I want to be very clear, if the message was not effectively delivered by the three previous speakers: We cannot, and will not, sustain deficits like these without end. Contrary to the prevailing wisdom in Washington these past few years, we cannot simply spend as we please and defer the consequences to the next budget, the next administration, or the next generation.<br /><br />. . . <br /><br />And that's why today I'm pledging to cut the deficit we inherited in half by the end of my first term in office. This will not be easy. It will require us to make difficult decisions and face challenges we've long neglected. But I refuse to leave our children with a debt that they cannot repay -- and that means taking responsibility right now, in this administration, for getting our spending under control.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-31549787979681114092012-08-13T19:42:40.812-04:002012-08-13T19:42:40.812-04:00I guess you missed it. Understandable since Mr Oba...I guess you missed it. Understandable since Mr Obama stated these words in an address to Congress on February 24, 2009.<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/24/us/politics/24obama-text.html?pagewanted=all<br /><br />I held a fiscal summit where I pledged to cut the deficit in half by the end of my first term in office. My administration has also begun to go line by line through the federal budget in order to eliminate wasteful and ineffective programs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-56831517997581968742012-08-13T18:03:32.021-04:002012-08-13T18:03:32.021-04:00I must have missed the reporting of OBAMA the &quo...I must have missed the reporting of OBAMA the "fiscal conservative" (NPR) "intent on erasing deficits" (New York Times) who has become "the intellectual heart of the Republican Party's movement to slash deficits" (The Post). Otherwise, you appear to have missed the point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-31192556232264324712012-08-13T17:00:32.630-04:002012-08-13T17:00:32.630-04:00
I wonder when Congressman Ryan decided to do a 1...<br /><br />I wonder when Congressman Ryan decided to do a 180-degree turn from being fiscally reckless enough to vote to expand Medicare in the 2005 law that forbid the federal government from exercising the same right to negotiate drug prices as private health providers. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-34680769779633125822012-08-13T16:51:10.839-04:002012-08-13T16:51:10.839-04:00What Paul Ryan will be putting on the backs of wor...What Paul Ryan will be putting on the backs of working class Americans are saddles.gravymeisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16075831177588700301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-75187022334514263092012-08-13T15:31:17.831-04:002012-08-13T15:31:17.831-04:00Miller is, of course, a joke. He won't tell yo...Miller is, of course, a joke. He won't tell you what year Obama's budget balances, because it never does.<br /><br />Miller did at least have the decency to state later in his article "[t]he truth Democrats won’t tell is that raising taxes on the rich alone won’t suffice."<br /><br /><br />that the lie Democrats tell isAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com