tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post4494747175879784230..comments2024-03-28T15:25:59.996-04:00Comments on the daily howler: Ta-Nehisi Coates on “The Million Vets March!”<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-23179204401770504322013-12-06T19:25:39.033-05:002013-12-06T19:25:39.033-05:00Y'all want to know why I brought the Dixie fla...Y'all want to know why I brought the Dixie flag to the white house?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-41275984123823668252013-10-19T02:11:18.269-04:002013-10-19T02:11:18.269-04:00This is a seriously ill-advised post from Bob.
On...This is a seriously ill-advised post from Bob.<br /><br />On what planet is it wrong to say 100-200 people is a "crowd?" Yes, it is a vastly smaller crowd than sometimes gathers on the Mall. But to say it's an exaggeration to call 100 people a crowd is, well, ridiculous. There's simply no more direct way to say it: Bob is making s*** up here. Here's so sensitive to lazy exaggerations, generalizations, and convenient symbols -- a crowd, a sign, a tweet -- -- that he's convulsed himself into writing that you can't call a group of 100 people a crowd. Dispatches from Planet Somerby.<br /><br />And while it's bad form to call any veteran an "idiot," a guy who waves the Confederate flag around at a rally in front of the White House is behaving like an idiot. His sacrifice and service deserve respect, but it's belittling to treat him or any other veteran as if they can't ever act like an idiot or refrain from ever calling one an idiot. I don't think that helps with reintegration in the long run. And I don't see anything about his quoted feelings that offset the idiocy of bringing a Confederate flag to the White House.<br /><br />Capping things off with a little Dr. King is just a way to burnish two or three hollow paragraphs with two legendary paragraphs. <br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-53421984684260272512013-10-17T13:04:33.350-04:002013-10-17T13:04:33.350-04:00" First offenders don't go to prison and ..." First offenders don't go to prison and theres normally - maybe always - a plea bargain down to a lesser offense."<br /><br />So true for whitey.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00363187757246791754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-12106657462594960532013-10-17T12:08:44.572-04:002013-10-17T12:08:44.572-04:00Oh, come on 11:51. We can all hear King protestin...Oh, come on 11:51. We can all hear King protesting in his sonorous baritone, "Its a high tech lynching!"Lionelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06336249052780481883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-70914799247783764782013-10-17T11:51:03.501-04:002013-10-17T11:51:03.501-04:00"All his women would be on Maury Povich's..."All his women would be on Maury Povich's show."<br /><br />Yes, and if Al Gore hadn't taken the initiative to create the internet, Carlos Danger would be Mayor of the Big Apple and nobody would be the wiser.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-83696490243795887942013-10-17T08:11:17.382-04:002013-10-17T08:11:17.382-04:00It doesn't make sense in any world, mch. Firs...It doesn't make sense in any world, mch. First offenders don't go to prison and theres normally - maybe always - a plea bargain down to a lesser offense. <br /><br />But that's going off on a tangent. Black criminality is too much violent criminality. That's why integration with blacks is resisted by whites and by the immigrant groups as well. Its not heroic to pretend that's irrational or evil; its survival. <br /><br />The impact of the Zimmerman case will be more de facto segregation. The logical reason that blacks at all levels up to the president and attorney general of the United States felt that Zimmerman was obligated to let Martin kill him or turn him into a vegetable are either (1) they hate whites or (2) they all have a "Trayvon" in the family, a juvenile delinquent with a propensity for violence. Lionelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06336249052780481883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-61904700448819667042013-10-17T07:55:49.649-04:002013-10-17T07:55:49.649-04:00Anonymous 2:07
And for all I know, you are a Rolex...Anonymous 2:07<br />And for all I know, you are a Rolex-wearing, womanizing Elmer Gantry charlatan type, just as King was. Imagine the people who knew King for what he was and how they felt like vomiting. It was a little dirty fantasy for King to talk about his "love." <br /><br />We'll never have a saintly figure like King again, for sure, because all his women would be on Maury Povich's show. Lionelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06336249052780481883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-33988655353393759162013-10-17T02:34:51.404-04:002013-10-17T02:34:51.404-04:00Lionel, whether or not it makes sense in your worl...Lionel, whether or not it makes sense in your world, that is the world out there. Learn about it before you pronounce. mchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-42074163406652022412013-10-17T02:13:41.808-04:002013-10-17T02:13:41.808-04:00I thought yesterday the Howler told us the confede...I thought yesterday the Howler told us the confederate flag guy was 23.<br />Today he is 24. And he spent 4 years in Afghanistan in the Marine Corps? Given the way tours of duty are rotated that seems highly unlikely. It depends, as a wise blogger once said "if the Washington Post can be trusted."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-53708822745232442842013-10-17T02:07:10.211-04:002013-10-17T02:07:10.211-04:00Lionel, like the white racists who bombed Dr. King...Lionel, like the white racists who bombed Dr. King's house, I have learned from writings of the great one<br />to take pity on the ignorance caused by the way you were brought up. <br /><br />We should all love you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-19783996772272869092013-10-17T01:28:20.283-04:002013-10-17T01:28:20.283-04:00Why would a friend sell another some pot on the st...Why would a friend sell another some pot on the street? That makes no sense. If they are friends, they don't transact drugs on the street. <br /><br /><br /><br />Lionelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06336249052780481883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-44791275315235375592013-10-17T01:07:21.242-04:002013-10-17T01:07:21.242-04:00Imagine a white president sticking his nose into a...Imagine a white president sticking his nose into a self defense claim by a black defendant. All holy hell would break lose.<br /><br />Of course it was racism on Obama's part. What did he mean picturing Martin as his own child? The correct thing for him to do was to refuse to comment at all. It was wrong for him to draw attention to that particular case or any case. <br /><br />Can you think of any white presidents talking about any white people killed by black people? Has Obama talked about any white people killed by black people? <br /><br />Lionelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06336249052780481883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-13304023807326668852013-10-17T00:26:54.908-04:002013-10-17T00:26:54.908-04:00D in C, most of the drug arrests that pump up the ...D in C, most of the drug arrests that pump up the Jim Crow statistics are for things like one friend selling another some pot on the street. It does the black community no good when a man is convicted on such a charge, his girlfriend or wife and children lose his presence and financial support, and, once he's out of prison, his record makes it hard for him to get a decent job, not to mention the ill effects of his prison time on his psyche. mchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-61674851666589501002013-10-17T00:04:44.760-04:002013-10-17T00:04:44.760-04:00It's remarkable how enraged some people became...It's remarkable how enraged some people became when the president expressed sympathy towards a family whose son was chased down and shot because he was "walking around, looking about". But remember, it's not the guy waving the flag of white supremacist violence who is the racist! Nor is it the man who insists that black people are "satisfied with food stamps". No, it's the black president, who notices that a black kid who is gunned down while walking home from the store was black.<br /><br />That's the *real* problem of racism today, black people noting their own skin color.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-55761278233104656692013-10-16T23:52:43.810-04:002013-10-16T23:52:43.810-04:00Here's a real world example. When my daughter...Here's a real world example. When my daughters were in high school, a janitor there was arrested for dealing drugs. From my POV, his removal from the job and being sent to jail was good for the high school community. He was a threat to all the students, including my daughters.<br /><br />Similarly, when a black drug dealer, is arrested, that's <i>good</i>. for the black community. His arrest prevents him from selling drugs to other black youths. And, the arrest discourages other blacks from becoming drug dealers.David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-78798085390427488892013-10-16T23:17:20.726-04:002013-10-16T23:17:20.726-04:00Lionel, you clearly, like so many others who just ...Lionel, you clearly, like so many others who just read or hear words without giving much thought to the task, have misunderstood what Obama meant when he made that statement. Think hard, remove your blinders, and try to find some deeper meaning in "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon."Horace Pleighnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-10125873117929262812013-10-16T23:06:26.034-04:002013-10-16T23:06:26.034-04:00"Read the crime statistics. Not hard to find ..."Read the crime statistics. Not hard to find them."<br /><br />Read them. I see blacks are arrested at a higher rate than non-blacks, get more prison time than non-blacks, etc.<br />That's why I (and others who pay attention) call the drug war the new Jim Crow.<br /><br />Check it out. Michelle Alexander spells it out for you.<br />http://www.amazon.com/The-New-Crow-Incarceration-Colorblindness/dp/1595586431Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-968121954687591322013-10-16T23:01:38.522-04:002013-10-16T23:01:38.522-04:00Not at all, DinC. I know, you're incorrect. S...Not at all, DinC. I know, you're incorrect. Shocking (not really). I don't think blacks use drugs more than non-blacks. I KNOW they do more prison time than non-blacks. That's a fact. and all the white-washing of this fact will not make it disappear.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-55304168425483854592013-10-16T22:45:44.851-04:002013-10-16T22:45:44.851-04:00To state the obvious, Lionel's interpretation ...To state the obvious, Lionel's interpretation and mind-reading of Obama's comment is the REAL racism here. Obama was merely expressing solidarity with parents who'd just lost a son. There wasn't a shred of racism involved. But Lionel will keep telling himself that it's OBAMA who's the racist, and will keep twisting simple reality to make it conform to this narrative. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-32497026580332845372013-10-16T22:00:52.848-04:002013-10-16T22:00:52.848-04:00What an unregenrate wretch !
"We disagree wi...What an unregenrate wretch !<br /><br />"We disagree with the bathos and the melodrama of Coates’ reaction to this non-event from a dwindling minority of people who keep getting played by folk who are much more powerful."<br /><br />If this blogger ever,ever,ever says anything against the Confederate flag, that would be the day. He won't because it gives him the warm and fuzzies.<br /><br />Take your sheep's clothing off already and reveal your Tea party membership and land a high paying right-wing-commentator position and get on with your life.<br /><br />Hey idiot - SENIOR Texas office holders talk openly about secession - the confederate flag is the symbol of a clear and present danger to the country.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-38153637732553093882013-10-16T21:24:22.426-04:002013-10-16T21:24:22.426-04:00Anonymous, I see things differently. You apparent...Anonymous, I see things differently. You apparently think that blacks use drugs more than non-blacks, so a war on drugs is disproportionately a war on backs. <br /><br />The way I see it is that drug usage is bad for individuals and bad for their communities. If blacks use drugs more than non-blacks, then a policy that reduces drug usage will benefit blacks disproportionately.David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-48687787516340228722013-10-16T21:04:32.151-04:002013-10-16T21:04:32.151-04:00Superb post, Bob, I am grateful to have read this....Superb post, Bob, I am grateful to have read this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-81074201239071000962013-10-16T20:28:00.695-04:002013-10-16T20:28:00.695-04:00Anon 8:08
Read the crime statistics. Not hard to ...Anon 8:08<br />Read the crime statistics. Not hard to find them. Lionelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06336249052780481883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-78772163807210330362013-10-16T20:25:01.427-04:002013-10-16T20:25:01.427-04:00Yes, Berto, Obama harmed Zimmerman's Constitut...Yes, Berto, Obama harmed Zimmerman's Constitutional rights. Nixon was criticized for commenting on Charles Manson. How far we've sunk in respect for Constitutional rights and this president feels free to exercise his racism.Lionelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06336249052780481883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-82247056904238570922013-10-16T20:08:12.228-04:002013-10-16T20:08:12.228-04:00Lionel,
Read about the drug war and then try to te...Lionel,<br />Read about the drug war and then try to tell us Jim Crow is dead.<br />Good luck!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com