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C...Yeah Bob, stop criticizing "liberals." Criticising liberals is wrong. Believe me, I know from wrong...<br /><br />I hope you don't misinterpret "all the best to you" as my saying goodbye, though. <br /><br />I'll be back with more of my patented "quaker" idiocy -- count on it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-10243734670486238092012-05-19T05:45:54.065-04:002012-05-19T05:45:54.065-04:00See, I didn't understand you were asking me to...See, I didn't understand you were asking me to show you pro-Somerby comments that were "arrant nonsense."<br /><br />SO, instead I show you that Bob shouldn't have wasted his time being the lone voice detailing the crimes of the press against Gore. Why? Because I am an idiot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-49996048143987144862012-05-19T02:03:06.084-04:002012-05-19T02:03:06.084-04:00@ Greg
re: and it was well known by election time ...@ Greg<br />re: and it was well known by election time that Al Gore internet bragging was hokum (though yes, shamefully repeated one more time by Alex Cockburn), AND isn't it possible that the editors and TV Producers KNOW this? <br />==============<br />re: <br />Internet invented by Gore understood as hokum? <br /><br />It is *not* well known that this is 'hokum' based on the news coverage I've seen here in Canada.<br /><br />Canadian journalists and columnists still bash Gore with the 'invented' story. <br /><br />And tribal use...They use this Gore story to aid in mocking: the left, citizens concerned with global warming, liberals, NGO's, anyone who raises questions about conservative, or corporate points of view. <br /><br />Gore and inventing the internet is a foundational reference for the right to engage in discrediting of various arguments via ridicule.Sam Gunschnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-50179220080893816152012-05-18T22:06:59.028-04:002012-05-18T22:06:59.028-04:00Bob, All the best to you. May you be blessed with ...Bob, All the best to you. May you be blessed with Mitt & republicans from here forward. These lousy liberals.king quakernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-61419121303569569872012-05-18T19:57:05.229-04:002012-05-18T19:57:05.229-04:00"Could it be that this lady doesn’t care when..."Could it be that this lady doesn’t care when tea-baggers might be involved?"<br /><br />I think it's more that a story about a shitting dog is something that she can make endlessly snarky and comical. She doesn't have to learn complicated details about pensions, pension funding, the PBGC, Bain, private equity - things that might challenge her brain. The snark is primary; she and Dowd will glom onto any issue that can be snarked.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-2179475564063659152012-05-18T18:20:03.515-04:002012-05-18T18:20:03.515-04:00As useless as Ed Schultz's "Question of t...As useless as Ed Schultz's "Question of the Day."<br /><br />But the difference is, Schultz doesn't present that as some sweeping survey and evidence of "liberal" thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-41843839968693677442012-05-18T18:16:52.877-04:002012-05-18T18:16:52.877-04:00Give you a good one off the top of my head.
Bob s...Give you a good one off the top of my head.<br /><br />Bob says Collins obsessively writes about the dog.<br /><br />Put "Love Canal" into his search engine and see how many years and words he's got invested in that.<br /><br />You will even read him explain how that single incident changed the course of human history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-91773994104584459632012-05-18T16:48:09.230-04:002012-05-18T16:48:09.230-04:00The Howler has no clue what the word "tribal&...The Howler has no clue what the word "tribal" means.urban legendnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-74997650227358477252012-05-18T16:42:54.348-04:002012-05-18T16:42:54.348-04:00Useless as even the basis for sweeping statement.....Useless as even the basis for sweeping statement..Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-10681601742417955472012-05-18T16:41:34.305-04:002012-05-18T16:41:34.305-04:00The point is we don't know WHO they are, so th...The point is we don't know WHO they are, so they areGreghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-28693011346644243652012-05-18T16:29:38.867-04:002012-05-18T16:29:38.867-04:00Really? Could you provide a few examples of these ...Really? Could you provide a few examples of these pro-Somerby "nuts"? I read the Daily Howler regularly, but I must have missed them.cacambonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-20589747807066318202012-05-18T15:29:46.873-04:002012-05-18T15:29:46.873-04:00Shorter comments:
People don't read Collins.
...Shorter comments:<br /><br />People don't read Collins.<br /><br />Or if they do, they aren't "real" liberals, anyway, like the people *I* know.<br /><br />Anyway, Bob is a clear hater of Irish Americans.<br /><br />Bob should address what *I* say, that he spends too much time looking at MSNBC and NYT, and WaPo, and CNN.<br /><br />And he should talk about the 4 commenters here rather than the hundreds at Collin's pages.<br /><br />And, yeah, I am a complete tosser.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-6562127539841926512012-05-18T13:41:49.585-04:002012-05-18T13:41:49.585-04:00Comments HERE are packed with arrant nonsense -- a...Comments HERE are packed with arrant nonsense -- and, other times, with challenges to the original post. But Bob doesn't read them, and, as such, he doesn't realize that his nutpicking gambit could be sprung on him, or that he is at least as blinkered and locked into idiosyncratic perspectives as any of his targets.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-78733258074338837332012-05-18T13:10:02.851-04:002012-05-18T13:10:02.851-04:00Yes, I would be embarrassed by fellow liberals who...Yes, I would be embarrassed by fellow liberals who agreed with Gail Collins, if I knew any. Most don't know who She is. <br /><br /> The use of comment boxes as evidence is, pure and simple, The Daily Howler scrapping bottom. It's a fair assumption many of the cited posters are not liberals at all but resentment sponges who only read the stupidest insult columnists. <br /><br /> Two questions are begged: Isn't it likely that the intended victims of this <br />sort of nonsense actually benefit from the "attacks" (I have only heard the dog on the roof stuff brought up with derision for the STORY, and it was well known by election time that Al Gore internet bragging was hokum (though yes, shamefully repeated one more time by Alex Cockburn), AND isn't it possible that the editors and TV Producers KNOW this? It would be hard not to notice at certain times and certain instances The Clintons benefited from such backlashes.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-70380466873680522712012-05-18T12:36:36.250-04:002012-05-18T12:36:36.250-04:00David? I'm not nearly as worried about what pe...David? I'm not nearly as worried about what people write in comboxes as Somerby is.<br /><br />And if I were of a conservative stripe, I wouldn't be embarrased by what other conservatives "say" in whatever forum.<br /><br />I would, however, be deeply embarrassed when they take over a state board of education and ban the teaching of evolution unless creationism is taught alongside it.<br /><br />As many conservatives in Kansas were.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-55242884929977230092012-05-18T12:20:45.616-04:002012-05-18T12:20:45.616-04:00Holy Moly! A new low for The Howler, and that'...Holy Moly! A new low for The Howler, and that's saying something.<br /><br />Instead of contending with liberals at this very site, who view both Mr. Somerby and Ms. Collins as blinkered, obsessed and preoccupied with nonsense, Our Hero goes to the NYT comments pages, where Gail Collins' silly upper-income fans, all 373 of them, can be used to dismiss "liberals" (in whatever sense Bob is employing that day) as tribal idiots. Now that's initiative!<br /><br />Per David in Cal's question: no, I'm not embarrassed by these people because, unlike your associates, they're not aggressively supporting destructive policies, or any policies at all, for that matter. For them, politics is simply "being" and having correct attitudes. <br /><br />Whereas your associates are destroying, and will destroy, the world as we know it. Sorry if that's being awfully tribal, but it's not as if the so-called "conservative" world-view has never been tested (it's implementation can be seen all over the globe, most notably in the Third World).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-20759743290813036262012-05-18T12:14:17.382-04:002012-05-18T12:14:17.382-04:00part three:
g. collins said:
“This was more tha...part three:<br /><br />g. collins said:<br /><br /> “This was more than four years ago. What would have happened if Romney had just said: “Boy, in retrospect that really does sound like a bad idea. But you have to remember that we had five boys under the age of 14. It was like living in a vortex; we did all kinds of stupid stuff.” <br />Do you think the nation — particularly the part that has ever tried to drive long distances with a car full of children — would have been understanding? I personally would never have mentioned the incident at all. <br />But since we haven’t gotten that sort of input, I kind of feel free to bring it up now and then.”<br /><br />>>> very well said.<br /><br /> <br /><br />“A teacher who students enjoyed making fun of for his poor eyesight was walking with Romney and some of his classmates when they came to two sets of glass doors. Mitt opened the first for his professor, swept his hand forward to indicate the second set was open as well, and then laughed hysterically when the teacher smacked into the closed door.” g. collins<br /><br />>>> mean spirited, but even more interesting to me is that he must have been very confident he could get away with it because of his fathers status i presume.<br /><br /> finproud jackassnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-11039714367678947632012-05-18T12:11:04.412-04:002012-05-18T12:11:04.412-04:00part two:
“Speaking of faulty moral performance,...part two:<br /><br /><br />“Speaking of faulty moral performance, Blow had just spent a month spreading disinformation about a possible murder case.” - b. somerby <br /><br />>>> whatever else he did, right or wrong, he was trying to *make it* a case by using media pressure to get the matter adjudicated in a courtroom.<br /><br /><br /> <br />“As Chekhov wrote about Gurov, the semi-crazy columnist “wanted to enjoy life so badly and it all seemed so simple and amusing!” - b. somerby, refering to g. collins<br /><br />>>> classic projection.<br /><br /> <br /><br />“Blow and Collins were happy this day, helping readers understand that Romney is a bad person. (Which he may be, of course!)” - b. somerby<br /><br />>>> he is an economic traitor and economic terrorist. he *is* a bad person. case closed. next case...<br /><br /><br /><br />“Can it be that this is happening because of The Way We Are—because of our vast limitations?” -b. somerby<br /><br />>>> well excuuuuuse me for not being of germanic or of pseudo germanic ancestry (wasp) and not being a protestant.<br /><br /><br /><br />“Could it be that voters don't care about our tribe's twaddle?” b. somerby <br /><br />>>> could it be that only a micro fraction of the populace read the ny times?proud jackassnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-32410646365082062822012-05-18T12:06:51.632-04:002012-05-18T12:06:51.632-04:00part one of three (probably:
“For decades, pseu...part one of three (probably:<br /><br /><br /><br />“For decades, pseudo-conservatives called talk radio programs, announcing themselves as ditto-heads. On the air, for all to hear, these callers would affirm every damn fool thing in the world. <br />We liberals would laugh at the foolishness of these highly scripted callers. And then we invented comment threads—and we got to see the way we are!” b. somerby<br /><br />>>> you cant properly compare call-ins to a radio station to comments on the internet. and theres no need to, as in the last ten years there has developed a liberal radio counterpoint to the limbaughs and his clones...only about 10% of what the right has as I understand it, but still significant.<br /><br /><br />“But how weird! Lady Collins didn’t say boo about this bit of bad conduct.” - b. somerby<br /><br />>>>”lady” collins. “lady” dowd. how weird to associate with royalty, of all people, those with an irish catholic heritage. this is a rovian style mind trick ala attacking kerrys courage.<br /><br /><br />“Could it be that she cares about Irish setters but not about working-class folk?” - b. somerby<br /><br />>>> could it be that she sees a republican winning as a disaster for working-class folk and that her choice of subject matter is the best way to avoid that, in her opinion at least? <br /><br /><br />“In the New York Times poll, Romney moved past Obama last week as we liberals pleasured ourselves with our tribe’s favorite stories. For years, we got to laugh at the other tribe’s ditto-heads—but they at least had highly effective political leadership.” - b. somerby<br /><br />>>> i agree the republicans r by far the smarter pols --- they have to be, as besides money and the fake liberal media (actually corporatist pr agencies), they got nothing.proud jackassnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-224314262159095332012-05-18T11:30:31.695-04:002012-05-18T11:30:31.695-04:00Although I think the conservative position is bett...Although I think the conservative position is better for the country on the majority of issues, I'm embarrassed by conservatives who want to teach Creation Science instead of evolution. It makes me uncomfortable to be in the same camp as these people. <br /><br />A question, which perhaps Bob has been hinting at, is whether knowledgeable liberals are embarrassed by other liberals who believe Gail Collins. Does it make any of you uncomfortable to be in the same camp as Collins' most ignorant followers?David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-2732252614107474912012-05-18T11:02:38.774-04:002012-05-18T11:02:38.774-04:00"According to Jason Horowitz’s reporting, som..."According to Jason Horowitz’s reporting, some of which is thoroughly documented . . ."<br /><br />Wow! Finally! A grudging admission that maybe, just maybe, the guy did do a heck of a lot of investigating before he reported.<br /><br />But let's ignore the "some". Let's find something that fits the narrative we want to tell about sloppy reporting.<br /><br />Oh yeah! Horowitz never quoted anybody directly would could say that Romney thought the kid was gay!<br /><br />Horror upon horrors! Let's spend a week writing about that -- long after the rest of the planet has turned the page.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-32709256179947593532012-05-18T10:33:55.110-04:002012-05-18T10:33:55.110-04:00So we're now calling the combox in a Gail Coll...So we're now calling the combox in a Gail Collins column a representative sample of how "liberals" think?<br /><br />Oh, good grief!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com