tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post5080790968709902213..comments2024-03-29T06:09:09.845-04:00Comments on the daily howler: NORRIS EMERGES: Where to begin?<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-25362349472880011872021-07-22T10:34:19.333-04:002021-07-22T10:34:19.333-04:00DR EMU WHO HELP PEOPLE IN ANY TYPE OF LOTTERY NUMB...DR EMU WHO HELP PEOPLE IN ANY TYPE OF LOTTERY NUMBERS<br />It is a very hard situation when playing the lottery and never won, or keep winning low fund not up to 100 bucks, i have been a victim of such a tough life, the biggest fund i have ever won was 100 bucks, and i have been playing lottery for almost 12 years now, things suddenly change the moment i came across a secret online, a testimony of a spell caster called dr emu, who help people in any type of lottery numbers, i was not easily convinced, but i decided to give try, now i am a proud lottery winner with the help of dr emu, i won $1,000.0000.00 and i am making this known to every one out there who have been trying all day to win the lottery, believe me this is the only way to win the lottery.<br /><br />Dr Emu can also help you fix this issues<br /><br />(1)Ex back.<br />(2)Herbal cure & Spiritual healing.<br />(3)You want to be promoted in your office.<br />(4)Pregnancy spell.<br />(5)Win a court case.<br /><br />Contact him on email Emutemple@gmail.com<br />What's app +2347012841542<br />Website Https://emutemple.wordpress.com/<br />Https://web.facebook.com/Emu-Temple-104891335203341Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15412911890439251035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-88816899430501931162021-06-15T01:52:23.823-04:002021-06-15T01:52:23.823-04:00You made some decent points there. 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I'm hoping Biden will.Gloucon Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05218027862578514587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-12029962831966237292021-06-09T01:08:56.567-04:002021-06-09T01:08:56.567-04:00Has Ohpra defunded her local police dept. yet?Has Ohpra defunded her local police dept. yet?Gloucon Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05218027862578514587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-20055763012654801422021-06-08T22:11:20.005-04:002021-06-08T22:11:20.005-04:00Then vote for Democrats, instead of your fellow bi...Then vote for Democrats, instead of your fellow bigots.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-91478032514679214012021-06-08T22:07:32.867-04:002021-06-08T22:07:32.867-04:00Oprah should have used her 2nd Amendment rights to...Oprah should have used her 2nd Amendment rights to protest police misconduct, instead of her lame-ass First Amendment rights.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-12138966556124685822021-06-08T21:06:17.208-04:002021-06-08T21:06:17.208-04:00Norris: She suggested that ... if someone were tir...Norris: She suggested that ... if someone were tired or short on time, “slavery could be optional.”<br /> <br />So it’s a time / energy problem. Many peoples ain’t got no time for slavery. And many is just plumb worn out.<br /> <br />I suggest mandatory national paid holidays for all Americans, say four to six weeks, like most countries in Europe have so that people have more time to study stuff like slavery.<br />Gloucon Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05218027862578514587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-73147336708163559952021-06-08T18:04:22.441-04:002021-06-08T18:04:22.441-04:00I think it's Bob's continued repeating of ...I think it's Bob's continued repeating of Right-wing grievances, and his running interference for Conservatives, which make people think he's a conservative.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-85008630536825585382021-06-08T17:54:11.978-04:002021-06-08T17:54:11.978-04:00Why does Somerby quote Langston Hughes in a post a...Why does Somerby quote Langston Hughes in a post about the National Museum of African American History and Culture?<br /><br />Because he was black? <br /><br />Somerby has told us that “race” is an illusion, so why doesn’t he just go with Robert Frost and the snowy woods? Won’t any poet do just as well as any other?<br /><br />Perhaps Somerby trots out Hughes as a purported example of how a black poet <i>ought</i> to sound, ie positive and uplifting? That certainly makes white guys like Bob feel better than if they encountered dark, angry poetry by a black writer. Or a slave cabin in a museum. <br /><br />And the same Wikipedia entry where Bob got his Hughes quote tells us that “Hughes was one of the few prominent black writers to champion racial consciousness as a source of inspiration for black artists.” <br /><br />He wasn’t exactly preaching an abandonment of race as an idea. Perhaps he would think differently now, but I don’t presume to enlist him in any causes. mhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08937133532381705347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-40322312331452848892021-06-08T17:36:47.794-04:002021-06-08T17:36:47.794-04:00I think he's raising valid questions about how...I think he's raising valid questions about how best to make outsiders understand the full range of the African American experience. Is it always the best approach to lead with the victimization story, which most Americans probably have developed a shorthand way of understanding? Maybe a different approach, emphasizing the immense achievements of such grievously oppressed people, would get the visitors thinking in new ways. Your approach may be the best, but I don't think it's obviously the only way. And Somerby certainy didn't say the museum should not have exhibits on slavery. It is weird that you think it telling to end with asserting that Somerby is no "liberal," as if not being so buttonholed is a crime. He certainly isn't a conventional liberal, but he is far from a conservative. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-9443273749701738062021-06-08T17:27:05.447-04:002021-06-08T17:27:05.447-04:00“Nor is it obvious that the patron who raised her ...“Nor is it obvious that the patron who raised her hand that day was making a lousy suggestion.”<br /><br />I have been to the museum. Has Somerby? It is constructed so that the visitor typically starts underground, with the earliest history of African Americans in the United States. It is claustrophobic and windowless. <br /><br />The visitor proceeds farther and farther upstairs, finally emerging into spacious, well-lighted floors that exhibit the positive contributions of African Americans over the years. <br /><br />It’s intended to give the visitor a sense of the journey that African Americans have taken in America. I found it exhilarating and a very positive, uplifting experience. <br /><br />But it may be uncomfortable for some to witness the tragedies and truths that are documented there. <br /><br />And of course, you don’t <i>have</i> to start at the lower level; the visitor is free to skip all the uncomfortable stuff if he wants to. It’s up to the individual. <br /><br />I’m sympathetic to Norris. <br /><br />We live in a country where there are still monuments to traitorous slaveholders all over the public squares of America. America not only hasn’t come to terms with its racist past-it is still celebrated in many places. <br /><br />Can you imagine a faction in Germany similar to the confederate sympathizers here, urging Germans to erect monuments to Adolf Hitler and getting pissed off when they get pushback?mhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08937133532381705347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-71631493238919598522021-06-08T17:25:30.693-04:002021-06-08T17:25:30.693-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.mhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08937133532381705347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-29914558089958641282021-06-08T10:39:13.118-04:002021-06-08T10:39:13.118-04:00'Norris began with an account of a personal ex...'Norris began with an account of a personal experience. We can't speak to the accuracy of her account, '<br /><br /><br /> Somerby takes a pot-shot at Norris's veracity. Note that he gives Trump, Roy Moore, Ron Johnson, Devin Nunes and Matt Gaetz the benefit of doubt when they lie. Proof once again that Somerby is a Trumptard. Centristnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-33113227745807956292021-06-08T10:19:29.626-04:002021-06-08T10:19:29.626-04:00Well, dear Bob, whether you like it or not, The Su...Well, dear Bob, whether you like it or not, The Superior African Race has achieved the ultimate martyrdom. <br /><br />The (alleged) descendants of the Israelites must be extremely disappointed. <br /><br />We don't mind, really. Let Patrisse Cullors swindle liberal idiots and buy expensive houses. Let Michele Norris swindle liberal idiots and buy whatever she craves. <br /><br />Who are we to judge? Who are you, dear Bob? Judge not lest ye be judged.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-90152880503262225122021-06-08T09:55:09.461-04:002021-06-08T09:55:09.461-04:00The nerve of you saying ouch because I stepped on ...The nerve of you saying ouch because I stepped on your foot! You are supposed to suffer in silence. You are supposed to forgive every wrong. How dare you confront me with my own wrongdoing! Who are you to dare to suffer? <br /><br />This is Somerby's stance and it is truly untenable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-33996336264107704632021-06-08T09:51:52.521-04:002021-06-08T09:51:52.521-04:00Somerby is so busy highlighting the parts of Norri...Somerby is so busy highlighting the parts of Norris's work that support his complaint, that he completely misses the answer to Somerby's own questions:<br /><br />"That is why the battle flag of the army that tried to divide and conquer our country is still manufactured, sold and displayed with defiant pride. That is why any mention of slavery is rendered as the shameful act of a smattering of Southern plantation owners and not a sprawling economic and social framework with tentacles that stamped almost every aspect of American life."<br /><br />This is why the museum is organized as it is. This is why we need to have that conversation. Somerby would have heard these words if he weren't so busy trying to evade such a conversation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-39649747786081542412021-06-08T09:47:38.217-04:002021-06-08T09:47:38.217-04:00I don't see any incompatibility between what N...I don't see any incompatibility between what Norris asks and the Langston Hughes poem. Why does Somerby?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-32759024320347747572021-06-08T09:44:57.771-04:002021-06-08T09:44:57.771-04:00"at the start of a very long essay"
The..."at the start of a very long essay"<br /><br />The nerve of Norris! Making people read a whole bunch of words about something she feels strongly about!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-22987969372157130232021-06-08T09:40:07.454-04:002021-06-08T09:40:07.454-04:00"Would something be wrong with encountering s..."Would something be wrong with encountering something like that when one enters this museum?"<br /><br />The accomplishments of African Americans should be part of the American mainstream and should appear in the other museums in Washington DC, not be segregated to a single special museum devoted to African Americans. Langston Hughes is part of literature, not solely part of African American heritage.<br /><br />It should no longer be necessary to prove that African Americans have contributed to American culture. And that is not the purpose of this African American museum. The organization of the exhibits should be guided by the purpose of the museum, as determined by its board and staff. No doubt that has been discussed extensively, although Somerby dismisses that effort by saying there is no "objective" way to determine how exhibits should be organized (a statement that presumably applies to all of the Smithsonian museums).<br /><br />In a time when people do not appreciate the impact that slavery has had on African American history and culture, it strikes me as fully appropriate to begin with that experience. The disapproval of white people who visit the museum, who presumably do not like being reminded about that part of American history, should not be dismissed as "Karen" (Somerby's way of dismissing any criticism of racist white behavior) when Norris never uses that term herself. These white objections to mention of slavery are to spare white feelings. Somerby needs to recognize that and understand that the museum is intended to educate white and black visitors, not to distort history (by reorganizing its presentation) in order to make everyone feel comfortable with the past.<br /><br />We have a group of people who cannot understand why black children get lower test scores than white children. They want to explain it using genetics. Perhaps they would be less prone to use that convenient explanation if they understood what the suppression of literacy during our brutal racial history (to use Somerby's language) meant in terms of people's lives and current experience. People need to be confronted by slavery and that is why it is first -- so that no one will miss it in their journey through the museum, as they might if it were hidden in the back or on a higher, less visited floor. <br /><br />Somerby's reaction, like the one Norris explicitly complains about, is why slavery needs to be front and present as people enter the museum. Because the purpose is not to exalt accomplishments that should be part of mainstream America, but to remind people about the parts it wishes to hide from public view, the shameful parts that have shaped our bigoted views of black people.<br /><br />It is telling the Somerby doesn't understand this. It is essays like this one that make it clear that Somerby is no liberal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-63266037717668891472021-06-08T09:27:23.615-04:002021-06-08T09:27:23.615-04:00"For ourselves, we have no idea what the patr..."For ourselves, we have no idea what the patron meant, or even if there ever was any such patron."<br /><br />Somerby has no problem calling the good decent person, Norris, a liar, for saying something he doesn't like.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com