tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post5233231402823481117..comments2024-03-29T05:30:01.292-04:00Comments on the daily howler: THE YEAR OF THE LIBERAL: Palin and Weiner as seen by the Times! <b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79725799786286711632016-01-21T13:17:55.587-05:002016-01-21T13:17:55.587-05:00Ignorance is no excuse for the ultimate gatekeeper...Ignorance is no excuse for the ultimate gatekeeper putting Palin on the national stage. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-43906670997321996062016-01-21T12:02:19.254-05:002016-01-21T12:02:19.254-05:00I'm sure you were all worked about Colin Powel...I'm sure you were all worked about Colin Powell as well, right David?<br /><br /><br />*****************************<br />Colin Powell, George W. Bush’s first secretary of state, wrote in his memoir about how outdated technology infrastructure at the State Department led him to install a personal laptop in his office to use a personal email account to “shoo[t] emails to my principal assistants, to individual ambassadors, and increasingly to my foreign-minister colleagues.”<br /><br />Powell, who served from 2001-2005, apparently did not keep a record of personal emails, unlike Clinton.<br /><br />As best as I can tell, no one ever cared about the Republican secretary of state using a personal email account. It was, to borrow a phrase, a non-story.<br /><br />http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/when-the-shoe-was-the-other-foot<br />*****************************************mmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-5499040206164167312016-01-21T11:46:36.931-05:002016-01-21T11:46:36.931-05:00David, this has been gone over many times. You ju...David, this has been gone over many times. You just re-set your wingnut talking points and start all over, as though this hasn't been explained and discussed over and over already.<br /><br />Listen carefully and try to keep an open mind.<br /><br />If there really was classified material sent to her on her personal email, it wouldn't make any difference if it had been sent to her on the State Department email account. <strong>In both scenarios it would have been equally wrong.</strong><br /><br />So the fact that it was her personal email is irrelevant. The State Department has other secure means of sending and receiving classified information.<br /><br />Bottom line is you are full of shit when you claim she ignored security concerns. The security concerns are dealt with by the state department by using a different system, which there is no doubt she used when appropriate.mmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-52659635833000257792016-01-21T10:56:20.135-05:002016-01-21T10:56:20.135-05:00mm - To say the government official system didn...mm - To say the government official system didn't have perfect security isn't a good reason to use a system with no special security at all. Nobody has claimed that Hillary did an analysis and concluded that her e-mail system was more secure than the government's system. This excuse doesn't work.<br />David in Calhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10222355423128534221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-53353296041355896422016-01-21T06:41:58.975-05:002016-01-21T06:41:58.975-05:00"if she ignored security concerns, simply bec..."if she ignored security concerns, simply because using a different e-mail system was too much trouble..."<br /><br />David, this is complete bullshit. The State Department email server was not a secure system. In fact, it is established fact that the SD email server had been hacked. Secretary Clinton used the secure system for sending or receiving classified information. Just like Secretary Colin Powell. This has been discussed and brought to your attention I can only conclude you're a lying bastard or an ignorant son of a bitch.<br /><br />mmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-40606470189180637382016-01-21T04:37:20.802-05:002016-01-21T04:37:20.802-05:00Emptywheel (no big Clinton fan) describes "cl...Emptywheel (no big Clinton fan) describes "classified" in CIA terms can be a 15 year old document describing rotary phones, by which they sent someone to jail. They've classified info on drones that Obama talked about on TV. caveat emptor - if it smells like bullshit it might be bullshit.Deciderehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11342749794474097722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-77798316736041036082016-01-21T02:32:03.745-05:002016-01-21T02:32:03.745-05:00From what I've read, I was accurate. E-mails n...From what I've read, I was accurate. E-mails now released show State Dept. employees advising her not to use her own server. Official instructions from the White House told Cabinet Secretaries to use their government e-mail systems. The entire rest of the Cabinet followed these instructions.<br /><br />You may be right that Hillary's decison was based on convenience. Do you realize what a slam that is? Thousands of government employees go to great lengths to preserve our secrets. Spies and counter-spies risk imprisonment or even death to get secret information and to protect their own country's secret information. For that matter, lots of people in private industry go to a lot of trouble to maintain business secrets. It speaks badly for Hillary if she ignored security concerns, simply because using a different e-mail system was too much trouble or because she was too lazy or because she didn't understand the security implications of using a personal server.<br /><br />P.S. I actually don't buy the convenience theory. When I used my company's e-mail system, I could call on computer professionals to answer any question or fix any problem. That was more convenient that using my personal e-mail.David in Calhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10222355423128534221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-66066327439970094432016-01-20T21:52:15.116-05:002016-01-20T21:52:15.116-05:00The server already existed. She did not receive ad...The server already existed. She did not receive advice not to use it. Others, including previous cabinet members and Secs of State had done so. She stated there were problems with the State Dept system. That made it more convenient. Why are there so many factual errors in your questions?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-17309461414544982152016-01-20T20:53:41.524-05:002016-01-20T20:53:41.524-05:00BTW mm, what's your guess as to why Hillary us...BTW mm, what's your guess as to why Hillary used a private server, going against instructions from the White House, advice from other State Dept. employees, written procedures, and common sense? One conservative (instapundit) writes, "it seems clear to me, because she wanted to be sure that emails she sent as secretary of State wouldn’t be available under Freedom of Information Act requests that might hurt her politically." Do you agree? If not, why do you think she did it?David in Calhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10222355423128534221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-26625587476517574262016-01-20T19:06:52.054-05:002016-01-20T19:06:52.054-05:00evidence David? What the fuck do you know about &...evidence David? What the fuck do you know about "evidence"? how the fuck do you know what5 McCullough informed Congress? The Gowdy committee sending out more bullshit truths to their special media propagandists? mmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-47851303499204375782016-01-20T18:25:32.949-05:002016-01-20T18:25:32.949-05:00BTW, mm, some of the evidence against Hillary come...BTW, mm, some of the evidence against Hillary comes from her released e-mails or from public testimony. E.g., the information on SAP messages. Charles McCullough, the Inspector General of the US Intelligence Community, has informed Congress that Hillary Clinton had "several dozen emails containing classified information determined by the IC element to be at the confidential, secret, and top secret/sap levels" on her private server. "Sap" stands for "special access program" and is the level above "top secret".David in Calhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10222355423128534221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-38470451640947630102016-01-20T17:17:12.819-05:002016-01-20T17:17:12.819-05:00Joe and Trumpy sitting in a tree...
Three hours of...Joe and Trumpy sitting in a tree...<br />Three hours of Scarborough with a hard-on for Trump.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-49197720540700830102016-01-20T16:54:26.489-05:002016-01-20T16:54:26.489-05:00McCain didn't know who Palin was when she was ...McCain didn't know who Palin was when she was first suggested to him as a running mate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-6801871025363597382016-01-20T15:21:37.901-05:002016-01-20T15:21:37.901-05:00Gee. I coulda sworn it was John McCain. Gee. I coulda sworn it was John McCain. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-75075467296943906132016-01-20T15:18:03.318-05:002016-01-20T15:18:03.318-05:00I think it was Bloody Bill (Always Wrong) Kristol....I think it was Bloody Bill (Always Wrong) Kristol.mmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-49589492743061406682016-01-20T15:16:51.727-05:002016-01-20T15:16:51.727-05:00sure.sure.mmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-3638397267265968242016-01-20T15:15:53.893-05:002016-01-20T15:15:53.893-05:00"At one time, party gatekeepers kept players ..."At one time, party gatekeepers kept players like Palin and Trump off the national stage."<br /><br />Let's see. Who was it who put Palin on the national stage? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-45628138969775234702016-01-20T15:12:30.066-05:002016-01-20T15:12:30.066-05:00You did not read one of Bob Somerby's all time...You did not read one of Bob Somerby's all time great guesses?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-41605073912949459782016-01-20T15:11:23.751-05:002016-01-20T15:11:23.751-05:00You seem to have (again) demonstrated with gusto y...You seem to have (again) demonstrated with gusto your political naivete. How much money could Karl Rove pocket from his PAC if he didn't spend money attacking a GOP bogeyperson?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-68335450781058829282016-01-20T14:59:25.071-05:002016-01-20T14:59:25.071-05:00I know that there are some mind-bogglingly idiotic...I know that there are some mind-bogglingly idiotic Clinton partisans out there, but this seems like trollery to me. Too obvious.stuart_zechmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14817215761981204304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-88253508416290435322016-01-20T14:57:17.533-05:002016-01-20T14:57:17.533-05:00How I Got Back My Lover (eboehispellcaster@yahoo.c...How I Got Back My Lover (eboehispellcaster@yahoo.com) <br /><br />Hello, i am Kathie Sherine from Ohio, USA. I am so happy to get my Ex back through the help of Dr Eboehi the spell caster. My greatest surprise was that 48 hours after the Doctor prepared the spell for me, my husband who has abandoned me for 4 years suddenly called me unexpectedly and am so happy that we have come to become one again through the help of Dr Eboehi and am so happy to be with my husband once again. 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Dr Eboehi is a very wonderful spell caster, you can contact him if you need his assistant because i know he can also help you. contact him through his email: eboehispellcaster@yahoo.com or immediately reach him by text through his mobile number +1 (785) 815-6319Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-38042874598079076052016-01-20T14:51:54.362-05:002016-01-20T14:51:54.362-05:00I think you may need to read a biography of Hillar...I think you may need to read a biography of Hillary Clinton. you seem to have swallowed with gusto the media narrative. Ask yourself a question, why is Karl Rove's superpac spending over $5 million dollars on negative attack ads against Hillary Clinton.mmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-11842174529506762942016-01-20T14:41:18.855-05:002016-01-20T14:41:18.855-05:009 comments over a story Bob did not find fits his ...9 comments over a story Bob did not find fits his cultural disintegration meme.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-64908996276249282812016-01-20T14:39:40.097-05:002016-01-20T14:39:40.097-05:00FBI agents breaking the law doesn't equate to ...FBI agents breaking the law doesn't equate to democracy for me, being a "repository for the ideals" of voters -instead of sponsors- does.CMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481861530761114492noreply@blogger.com