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I am a widow at the moment with three kids and i was stuck in a financial situation in June 2014 and i needed to refinance and pay my bills. I tried seeking loans from various loan firms both private and corporate but never with success, and most banks declined my credit. But as God would have it, I was introduced to a Man of God a private loan lender who gave me a loan of $85,000USD and today am a business owner and my kids are doing well at the moment, if you must contact any firm with reference to securing a loan without collateral , no credit check, no co signer with just 2% interest rate and better repayment plans and schedule, please contact Mr James Lewis. He doesn't know that am doing this but am so happy now and i decided to let people know more about him and also i want God to bless him more.You can contact him through his email: lewisloancompany@yahoo.comAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01514047395521178720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-47692560273326101012014-06-24T01:24:12.985-04:002014-06-24T01:24:12.985-04:00Greetings to every one that is reading this testim...<br />Greetings to every one that is reading this testimony...<br /><br />I am Malissa Delh by name, currently living in New jersey city, USA. I am a widow at the moment with three kids and i was stuck in a financial situation in June 2014 and i needed to refinance and pay my bills. I tried seeking loans from various loan firms both private and corporate but never with success, and most banks declined my credit. But as God would have it, I was introduced to a Man of God a private loan lender who gave me a loan of $85,000USD and today am a business owner and my kids are doing well at the moment, if you must contact any firm with reference to securing a loan without collateral , no credit check, no co signer with just 2% interest rate and better repayment plans and schedule, please contact Mr James Lewis. He doesn't know that am doing this but am so happy now and i decided to let people know more about him and also i want God to bless him more.You can contact him through his email: lewisloancompany@yahoo.comAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01514047395521178720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-82303219688746616752014-05-29T18:16:11.468-04:002014-05-29T18:16:11.468-04:00Since I'm fluent in both trollish and English,...Since I'm fluent in both trollish and English, let me translate what TDH is saying for you. Oh, I'm just kidding. There's no such thing as trollish. So I'm just gonna type slowly so you can follow.<br /><br />Resegregation today isn't the same as segregation yesterday. We should know this because we can see pictures on a school district web site today that would have caused riots yesterday. Given what we know about the racial composition of many school districts, segregation today isn't going away any time soon. Perhaps we should concentrate on educating students in those schools.<br /><br />As always, YMMV. But it shouldn't vary so much for you to be able to claim that TDH is denying that TCHS is almost all black.deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-13662464043887698792014-05-29T18:07:30.460-04:002014-05-29T18:07:30.460-04:00Anonymous @12:36P,
Apparently when TDH expresses ...Anonymous @12:36P,<br /><br />Apparently when TDH expresses the opinion that Hanna-Jones missed the real story (the lack of preparation of TCHS's students) by concentrating on resegregation, that's a bad thing. When you complain that TDH shouldn't have written those blog entries on lack of preparation and instead should have concentrated on school district boundary-fiddling, that's perfectly OK. I'm sending the irony fairy over to smack you with her wand, but she's busy so you may have to wait a while.<br /><br />Tuscaloosa school officials face a problem with no good solution. They know that once a school reaches a racial "tipping point," white parents pull their students out and send them to private schools (or in Tuscaloosa's case, move into Tuscaloosa County school districts outside the city). Is Tuscaloosa finagling the school district boundaries to prevent white flight or is that just an excuse to bring back Jim Crow in education? It's a good question, and TDH's reply is that increasing segregation is a long-term trend with no good solutions, and that we ignore the question of poor preparation at everyone's peril but especially students'. Also a good point.<br /><br />Likely one you missed while musing about TDH's claim that Hannah-Jones' wrote 10,000 words.<br /><br />Well, congratulations, troll. You're right. The article ran only 9774 words.deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-46354691864795102172014-05-29T17:28:55.416-04:002014-05-29T17:28:55.416-04:00Anonymous @10:33A
By the TDH definition, a howler...Anonymous @10:33A<br /><br />By the TDH definition, a howler is a <i>logical</i> blunder. A misstatement of fact isn't a logical blunder unless it's used a premise to reach a false conclusion. TCHS likely left Dent unprepared for college, whether she couldn't get into any four-year school or whether she could, but only to one that requires only a high-school diploma. That's the point I take from his blog entries on the H-J article. Is this the point that you say is "in error"? If so, would you care to defend that claim?<br />deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-83819115549864429292014-05-29T17:17:31.774-04:002014-05-29T17:17:31.774-04:00Anonymous @9:22A,
I'm not "forced" ...Anonymous @9:22A,<br /><br />I'm not "forced" to do anything. TDH made a statement contrary to fact. I don't find this difficult to accept. I myself, have made errors. The last time was 1968, May. Third week of that month, I think, and I'll confess here that I didn't own up to it either.<br /><br />I'm not "reduced" to anything. TDH should correct his error. But that error makes no difference to his point. As I've said, I can understand these things together because I can keep two thoughts in my head at the same time. It takes effort to do this, but it's an important skill. I recommend it to you.<br /><br />Perhaps TDH is the Lt Kaffee of political blogs, but you're not so hot at handling the truth you seem so fond of:<br /><br />TDH wrote that Gov Ultrasound hadn't been indicted before the announcement of Gov Ultrasound's indictment.<br /><br />TDH has consistently written that whatever was going on with the Ft Lee lane closings seems crazy, but that we don't know what the principals thought they were doing because they haven't said. He even warns that any claim of legitimacy could be "a ruse or a hoax."<br /><br />TDH never wrote that WMD's would be found; one month after the start of the war, he wrote that in his opinion, that those against the war should wait longer than a month to declare the absence of WMDs<br /><br />And Good God! The Monty Hall Problem! TDH got fooled by a problem in probability that has a somewhat counter-intuitive answer. Over 8 years ago! How embarrassing. I mean for you. I looked up the blog entry. After making this famous faux pas, TDH talks about Baltimore outsourcing the solutions to its failing schools without addressing the problem of unprepared students. Of course, <i>that</i> you don't remember.deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-22156361805100570862014-05-29T15:43:47.381-04:002014-05-29T15:43:47.381-04:00Anonymous @7:07A,
I did "google up" Mil...Anonymous @7:07A,<br /><br />I did "google up" Miles, and I did learn something about the college. I even commented here on May 20 about Miles' notable alumna, Autherine Lucy (although I'm embarrassed to admit I misspelled her name). In fact, I learned enough about Miles College to make informed if unremarkable comments here.<br /><br />The response you should have made was "Well, deadrat, I'm sorry I accused you of commenting without performing the due diligence of inquiry. I shouldn't have jumped to that conclusion." Of course, this discussion shouldn't be about me in the first place, but as long as you've made it such, then perhaps you should correct your own error about me with the same alacrity that you demand of TDH about Dent.<br /><br />TDH isn't "my hero." I read him because I learn things from the blog. Why are you here? To keep me in line? Sometimes I agree with TDH; sometimes I don't. I've said repeatedly that he should have corrected his error about Dent's admission to college. I've also said that this error doesn't detract from his point.deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-22373771330676001842014-05-29T14:24:36.166-04:002014-05-29T14:24:36.166-04:00Oh, I see. Now we're going to define "nib...Oh, I see. Now we're going to define "nibble" so that it fits Bob's narrative.<br /><br />And of course, it's not a "nibble" by this new definition unless D'Leisha sits on her behind and waits for colleges to come calling.<br /><br />Well, unless you are one of the few elite male high school basketball or football starts in America, that's not what happens in the real world.<br /><br />But then again, in the real world Bob says D'Leisha can't get into a four-year college. A month after she's been accepted. On scholarship.<br /><br />Oh, I forgot. That doesn't count because Miles takes everybody.<br /><br />Well, evidently Harvard-educated Somerby continues to be unaware that there are many, many "open admissions" colleges in this nation, and has convinced his sheep that there are none. Except Miles. The Target of higher education.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-73592720566157252102014-05-29T13:32:34.427-04:002014-05-29T13:32:34.427-04:00FROM THE MAY 20 COMMENT BOX
As a further public s...FROM THE MAY 20 COMMENT BOX<br /><br />As a further public service we repeat the following:<br /><br />"Everybody makes mistakes; that mistake was a beaut. And uh-oh! Flipping around the web yesterday, we saw Auletta’s original, erroneous copy still on display at several prominent sites. <br /><br />(Example: As of this morning's posting, the erroneous copy is still on display at Ezra Klein’s brainy new site.)<br /><br />Everybody makes mistakes. In this instance, Auletta committed a genuine groaner.<br /><br />That said, the way these plights have been discussed takes us beyond the realm of “mistake.” It takes us the realm of “novel,” the place where our national discourse will routinely be found."<br /><br />The quote is from Bob Somerby, attacking not just an error, but the fact the error is uncorrected elsewhere. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-44539857738194714642014-05-29T12:48:37.789-04:002014-05-29T12:48:37.789-04:00What is stupid is Somerby continuing to make the s...What is stupid is Somerby continuing to make the same error over and over about Dent's admission to a four year college. What is idiotic is are efforts by further commenters to deny he did that or justify it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-41567617944988285302014-05-29T12:36:47.084-04:002014-05-29T12:36:47.084-04:0010:36 and 11:25 are emblematic of the intellect of...10:36 and 11:25 are emblematic of the intellect of the average Howler reader regardless of their opinion of Somerby.<br /><br />10:36 I never said Bob is to be forgiven for his errors. I said his fans defend him by citing his source but that he invents and embellishes things from that source. Read before you write!<br /><br />11:25 Bob thinks the author should have written about the gaps instead of segregation because housing problems make it difficult to address integration. Fine. That takes one sentence not a dozen posts. Apparently you skipped the part of the article which shows how boundaries in Tuscaloosa were adopted to create segregation of low income black kids at Central. Bob skimmed it, glossed it over, and ignores it to repeatedly state Hannah-Jones wrote 10,000 words about the plight of a girl he repeatedly states was in the top 10% of her class, got a 16 ACT and no college admission. Even the 10,000 word claim is subject to challenge.<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-77735706791114822192014-05-29T12:20:47.244-04:002014-05-29T12:20:47.244-04:00Yeah, No problem. After all, some schools in Tusca...Yeah, No problem. After all, some schools in Tuscaloosa are integrated. Why Bob even found pictures to prove it.<br /><br />So who should really care about D'Leisha? After all, her high school is only 99 percent black. That's not segregated at all.<br /><br />And Bob has pictures of cute kids to prove it.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-80938541349405096452014-05-29T11:44:37.181-04:002014-05-29T11:44:37.181-04:00No, she took the test 5 times and got 16 four time...No, she took the test 5 times and got 16 four times and 17 once. ACT reports all the scores to a school. Most schools average the scores, not pick the highest one.<br /><br />All schools look beyond the test scores. So what? Dent is at the top of her high school class, in an AP class, and still cannot score the minimum required at second rate schools. Why is anyone arguing about this? Clearly she is not being well-educated and that what these stats and remarks were trying to illustrate. No one is maligning Dent or Miles. They are pointing out that she did not receive as good an education as she should have. Seems to me everyone should be on the same page about that but instead a bunch of trolls are playing gotcha with Somerby's use of language (and Dent's ACT score is the football). This is stupid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-73562749261905641222014-05-29T11:36:21.456-04:002014-05-29T11:36:21.456-04:00They themselves state on their own webpage that th...They themselves state on their own webpage that they take anyone with a high school diploma or GED. No one said Miles was not a good school -- except you.<br /><br />Hannah-Jones states in her article that Dent was not being recruited like other students with higher ACT scores. The term nibble refers to those letters of recruitment, not Dent's own actions seeking admission to Miles (or anyplace else). Those would be nibbles received by Miles or U of Kentucky, not by Dent.<br /><br />But this is willful misreading. Dent is going to Miles, an open admission school. Because it is open admission, her acceptance there says nothing about whether her ACT scores made her competitive or whether her quality of education would have permitted admittance to a selective school. It doesn't change anything about the quality of education she received at Central High -- which is the point of both Somerby and Hannah-Jones's remarks.<br /><br />YOU have made this about whether Dent went to college. That is so entirely beside the point that it seems like a ginned up complaint intended to attack Somerby. You cannot seriously be arguing that a 16 on the ACT is a good score or that Dent received a first-rate education at Central High, so what is your point? Only that you dislike Somerby. There has never been any doubt that certain trolls here, like you, hate Somerby. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-43291067940258330062014-05-29T11:25:01.856-04:002014-05-29T11:25:01.856-04:00He hasn't been ripping the article because of ...He hasn't been ripping the article because of errors. He has been ripping it because it ignores the racial gap in performance in favor of an exclusive focus on resegregation. He plainly stated that instead of focusing on school segregation that will be difficult to address due to residential housing patterns, the author should have focused on addressing the performance gap between black and white children, something that can be improved no what the housing patterns.<br /><br />YOU and other trolls here think errors are the point of Somerby's criticisms. He does point them out, but his criticism is about broader issues than that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-37369546754508489742014-05-29T11:20:32.320-04:002014-05-29T11:20:32.320-04:00""Segregation" isn't some techn...""Segregation" isn't some technical legal term. It exists today de facto as much as it existed in the Jim Crow days de jure, and its effects are no less harmful."<br /><br />Whatever de facto segregation exists in Tuscaloosa, it is not "as much as it existed in Jim Crow days" because in those days it was 100% segregated by law. One school in Tuscaloosa is close to 100% segregated de facto, but all of the others have some percentage of white students, some close to 50/50. That is integration, especially since you will not say what % other than 50/50 you would consider to be integrated instead of segregated.<br /><br />No one has said it is OK to have an entirely black high school. Somerby didn't say it and neither did I. Pretending either of us did is just plain lying.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-18314177167188780582014-05-29T10:36:08.996-04:002014-05-29T10:36:08.996-04:00So, 9:48. Bob is to be forgiven for relying upon e...So, 9:48. Bob is to be forgiven for relying upon evidence presented in an article he has been ripping for weeks because of numerous errors.<br /><br />Interesting. Hope all that bending and twisting doesn't give you cramps.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-90307521384482995452014-05-29T10:33:48.649-04:002014-05-29T10:33:48.649-04:00Right. Miles is just like Target. After all, it is...Right. Miles is just like Target. After all, it is "historically black." How tough can it be? They'll take anybody.<br /><br />But let's take your analogy a bit further. Suppose that Somerby wrote that you can't get into any big discount store. You say, "Not true, I got into Target just yesterday." Then a Bob defender says, "Target takes everybody. So Bob is still right."<br /><br />That's the game you are reduced to playing.<br /><br />FYI, lots of colleges, including some of the finest in the nation, are also "open admissions" institutions. Stop pretending that Miles is unique in that regard, and Dent's only option.<br /><br />And you know what? It's one thing for Bob to ignore his own combox, but I would be extremely surprised if no one e-mailed him with the link to the story about Dent's acceptance, on scholarship, to Miles.<br /><br />That strongly leads me to suspect that his insistence upon writing about how she can't get into any college at all, not so much as a "nibble" is the product of willful ignorance.<br /><br />And KZ, in his own inimitable style, wrote some days ago about how Bob's narrative has grown, quoting the Howler himself. <br /><br />It began, as Hannah-Jones described, as "difficulty" getting into college with her low ACT, then slowly morphed to "can't even get a nibble" -- long after she's been accepted.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-38902309894944003632014-05-29T10:13:09.247-04:002014-05-29T10:13:09.247-04:00deadrat, your inquiry about premise was directed t...deadrat, your inquiry about premise was directed to me since I raised the point. Allow me to draw directly from the founder's documents:<br /><br />"Concern about press corps patterns and practices had grown throughout the 1990s. <strong>Lazy thinking and careless habits</strong> were producing increasingly vacuous work. A herd of rude and worthless reporters reminded onlookers of Penelope's suitors. Several critiques of their work were presented, but their habits lingered on as before.<br /><br />-----he created what surely will stand throughout time as the greatest single press corps critique ever crafted.....<br /><br />howl·er /haü'-ler/ n 1: a stupid<br />and ridiculous logical<br />blunder 2: one that<br />howls<br /><br />deadrat, you state repeatedly that Bob's error, which you acknowledge as such and state should be corrected, does not distract from his point. I agree. It amplifies the degree to which his point is in error and his willingness to seize upon erroneous or invented facts and repeat them in the face or refutation.<br /><br />Hannah-Jones does indeed paint a picture through Dent of the senior class at Tuscaloosa Central, one which the city of Tuscaloosa and the rest of the country don't care much about. And the school is, for all intents and purposes, segregated by race. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-49442163015674828092014-05-29T09:48:06.218-04:002014-05-29T09:48:06.218-04:008:27 that quote provides exactly the same kind of ...8:27 that quote provides exactly the same kind of evidence from the same family of sources for the information Hannah-Jones presented about the Dents. And it was Hannah-Jones evidence upon which everyone around here who defends Somerby says he relied upon, and that any deficiencies are hers.<br /><br />Except Hannah-Jones never said she was in the top 10% of her class. Somerby "seemed" her to be. And she never said she could not get into a four year college. Somerby did. Repeatedly. Even after it was noted here that fact was in error before he ever wrote it.<br /><br />Somerby embellishes with the rest of the press corps. He is an opinion peddling pundit. As such he is subject to the same scrutiny and rules applied to those to whom he applies them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-8271299895582893142014-05-29T09:22:51.755-04:002014-05-29T09:22:51.755-04:00Yes, I do. Especially when she says that Miles &qu...Yes, I do. Especially when she says that Miles "offered more." That tells me that the school in Kentucky (not necessarily the University of Kentucky) or the school in Mobile offered her something, not the least of which was admission.<br /><br />And remember. The point that Bob fans are bending themselves into pretzels trying to defend is that she can't even get, and I quote, a "nibble" from ANY four-year college.<br /><br />That is utterly false. She got "nibbles" from at least three colleges.<br /><br />Even deadrat is forced to admit Somerby's error, even though he is now reduced to arguing that it really isn't all that important. Despite the fact that Somerby continues to pound it daily.<br /><br />This is very un-Somerby. Ordinarily, when he is caught saying something blatantly wrong, he merely "disappears" it and never mentions it again. Like he did with Gov. Ultrasound, the "legitimate bridge study" and going back to the "Weapons of Mass Destruction" that will be found any day now, and the "Monty Hall Problem."<br /><br />Never admits or correct his mistake. Just merely disappears it and pretends it never happened.<br /><br />This tells me his mind is made up, and he is too damned lazy to even read his own combox, let alone google Dent's name to see if she did get accepted into a four-year college.<br /><br />Good grief. The so-called "trolls" around here did that and discovered the truth in short order.<br /><br />Bob? He can't handle the truth.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-30085122849482087602014-05-29T09:13:01.829-04:002014-05-29T09:13:01.829-04:00"He also says you cannot achieve 50/50 integr..."He also says you cannot achieve 50/50 integration when there are many more black kids in a district than white. Hard to argue with that math."<br /><br />Nice straw man, but who ever argued that the goal is 50/50 integration?<br /><br />It's also hard to argue with the math that tells you that one high school is nearly entirely white, and another is nearly entirely black in the same school district.<br /><br />So instead of confronting that reality, we'll pretend that all is okey-dokey and that's simply the breaks, because segregation isn't mandated by law any more.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-59640976750401738972014-05-29T09:08:44.138-04:002014-05-29T09:08:44.138-04:00Well, this is where Somerby will stick to his pref...Well, this is where Somerby will stick to his preferred narrative rather than the truth.<br /><br />"Segregation" isn't some technical legal term. It exists today de facto as much as it existed in the Jim Crow days de jure, and its effects are no less harmful.<br /><br />Hannah-Jones demonstrates how quickly Tuscaloosa began building new high schools in the white suburbs, which resulted in the re-segregation of Central High just as surely as if it were done by law.<br /><br />This is a point that Somerby, speaking from his position as a white person who grew up privileged and attended Harvard, can't quite get himself to see. After all, everything changed 50 years ago when we ended Jim Crow. And there are even pictures of black and white kids playing together in Tuscaloosa.<br /><br />His attitude, shared by so many whites who can't see how racism persists to this day, is why the issue of racism is so difficult to discuss let alone solve.<br /><br />After all, I'm not racist, as I live in my lilly-white suburb, attend a lilly-white church, and shop in lilly-white shopping centers. Why, once upon a time, right after the Ravens won the Super Bowl, he actually saw a black guy wearing a Joe Flacco jersey! How much more proof do we need that racism is no longer an issue?<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com