tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post5342670807022403005..comments2024-03-28T18:50:46.174-04:00Comments on the daily howler: Have we liberals been propagandized?<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-37360000096059855012019-04-04T02:07:50.910-04:002019-04-04T02:07:50.910-04:00To no-one’s surprise (except perhaps Bob Somerby’s...To no-one’s surprise (except perhaps Bob Somerby’s):<br /><br /><i>New York Times</i> 4/3/19: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/03/us/politics/william-barr-mueller-report.html" title="NYTimes article" rel="nofollow"><b>Some on Mueller’s Team Say Report Was More Damaging Than Barr Revealed</b></a> —<br />“Some of Robert S. Mueller III’s investigators have told associates that Attorney General William P. Barr failed to adequately portray the findings of their inquiry and that they were more troubling for President Trump than Mr. Barr indicated....”<br /><br />Or as one Rachel M. put it, “Who could have guessed?”Ravenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974090948640572660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-88808327762028514652019-03-26T11:16:30.672-04:002019-03-26T11:16:30.672-04:00Russia was never the reason Trump won the election...Russia was never the reason Trump won the election. It was always his bigotry. The corporate-owned media wasn't trying to make Trump look bad. They were trying to make the American public look good.<br />You are correct about their failure, though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-39350338504439133682019-03-26T11:14:11.715-04:002019-03-26T11:14:11.715-04:00Thank you Mao. You are obviously hitting the righ...Thank you Mao. You are obviously hitting the right buttons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-62262318619835296842019-03-26T08:03:48.443-04:002019-03-26T08:03:48.443-04:00What's interesting, dembot, is that obviously ...What's interesting, dembot, is that obviously the deep state spooks can fabricate and present 'undeniable proof' of anything. <br /><br />Of a 'collusion' with space aliens, if the want to.<br /><br />But this time they decided it wasn't in their best interests. And, quite likely, they made a deal with the other side. <br /><br />In any case, they fucked you, dembot. Hung you out to dry. Oh well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-49372344625411965512019-03-26T06:42:58.123-04:002019-03-26T06:42:58.123-04:00Faggot Jap pencil dixk Mao sucks his mother's ...Faggot Jap pencil dixk Mao sucks his mother's cock. Friendless idiot loner bitch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-76628530241371733892019-03-26T06:18:14.522-04:002019-03-26T06:18:14.522-04:00You are an idiot, David, you treasonous bastard. ...You are an idiot, David, you treasonous bastard. You act like what we just witnessed is normal. Who the fuck gave Barr the authority to make the decision? A man who auditioned for the job by writing an unsolicited memo arguing a president cannot be found to have committed obstruction. In point of fact, Barr is now obstructing the obstruction of justice investigation. <br /><br />Past precedent in Nixon and Clinton was that the evidence was given to Congress. Neither one of the special prosecutors in those instances made the call either.<br /><br />Firing Comey was just one small piece of the obstruction of justice committed by this miserable bastard. He didn't want the report to go to Rosenstein and was supremely pissed that Sessions had recused so he had to fire Sessions and install his handpicked flunky to clean up the dirty work. If you don't see how outrageous that was you really are an idiot.<br /><br />And by the way, you miserable jackass, the seized assets from Manafort alone more than paid for the costs of the SC office.<br /><br />******<br />David in CalMarch 23, 2019 at 10:07 PM<br /><br />This is the new Democratic talking point, but it won't last long. First of all, just about nobody opposes releasing the Mueller Report - not even Trump.<br />*****<br /><br /><b>McConnell blocks resolution calling for Mueller report to be released publicly</b><br /><br />mmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-71941898958310262912019-03-26T01:49:41.565-04:002019-03-26T01:49:41.565-04:00mm - Mueller was supposed to resolve this question...mm - Mueller was supposed to resolve this question, not punt. Would you have been satisfied with Mueller's work if he had two main conclusions<br />-- We don't know if Trump committed obstruction of Jusice<br />-- We don't know if Trump colluded with Russia.<br /><br />If that's what Mueller came up with, would you feel the country got its $30 million worth? Of course not. These are the questions Mueller was supposed to answer.David in Calhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09068188536758619565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-66545525215409731822019-03-25T22:37:07.032-04:002019-03-25T22:37:07.032-04:00******
David in CalMarch 23, 2019 at 10:07 PM
Thi...******<br />David in CalMarch 23, 2019 at 10:07 PM<br /><br />This is the new Democratic talking point, but it won't last long. First of all, just about nobody opposes releasing the Mueller Report - <b>not even Trump.</b><br />*****<br /><br /><em>"Well, that would not be a position that I would want, to just make a statement where we would release confidential communications that took place between the President of the United States and the Department of Justice or the special counsel's office," Sekulow told CNN's Alisyn Camerota on "New Day."</em><br /><br /><br />Stick your lists and your talking points up your lying treasonous ass, Comrade. <br />mmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-23400577719935261172019-03-25T21:13:32.820-04:002019-03-25T21:13:32.820-04:00Bob wrote, "Why didn't Mueller state a vi...Bob wrote, "Why didn't Mueller state a view regarding obstruction? Is it because of Justice Department policy against indicting a sitting president?"<br /><br />Sorry, Bob. That's just wishful thinking. There's nothing secret about this charge. We know what Trump did: he fired Comey. As many have pointed out, this act did not constitute o of j, because<br />1. Firing Comey was within the President's normal powers<br />2. Comey deserved to be fired<br />3. Firing Comey did not obstruct the investigation Trump/Russia collusion<br />4. Since there was no such collusion, there was no crime to cover up.<br /><br />I don't know why the Mueller report said this was an open question. After all, it was his job to answer this question. My guess FWIW is that it was just a bit of gratuitous nastiness, possibly designed to punish Trump for refusing to testify.David in Calhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09068188536758619565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-35330720288536290552019-03-25T21:07:39.130-04:002019-03-25T21:07:39.130-04:00mm - two problems with your talking point
1. One a...mm - two problems with your talking point<br />1. One a few partisans think that Barr's summary was unfair to Mueller's report.<br /><br />2. Barr said he would be releasing more of the report as they are able to separate which parts are legal to release. Subsequent releases are not going to change Barr's original summary.David in Calhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09068188536758619565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-26715466395976120092019-03-25T18:55:15.442-04:002019-03-25T18:55:15.442-04:00No reason to question authority. That Deep State s...No reason to question authority. That Deep State stuff was either all true or a lie, just like Mueller. And we can be certain that Barr is just as trustworthy as Lynch. Also, the press is all fake news, except when it isn’t, and can’t be trusted, except when it can. Good motto. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-4615859763419688812019-03-25T18:48:56.432-04:002019-03-25T18:48:56.432-04:00Eh, dear dead-enders demots, all juicy 'bombsh...Eh, dear dead-enders demots, all juicy 'bombshells' and 'beginnings of the ends' have already been leaked. <br /><br />Of course it won't stop you from regurgitating them over and over, but you're right for not sounding too enthusiastic. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-77121858028684484382019-03-25T18:42:40.726-04:002019-03-25T18:42:40.726-04:00“Mister Trump gains a new shouting-point:”
Well, ...“Mister Trump gains a new shouting-point:”<br /><br />Well, he is certainly shouting. <br /><br />But the mainstream press is helping him do just that by screaming “no collusion”, etc, without having read a word of Mueller’s report or hearing from our AG. <br /><br />You too, Bob. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-31252046136050440002019-03-25T18:26:42.008-04:002019-03-25T18:26:42.008-04:00Exactly, mm. And in his zeal to blame parts of the...Exactly, mm. And in his zeal to blame parts of the media for their previous coverage of Mueller, Somerby simply accepts the version of events being promulgated by other parts of the media at face value now, when it confirms his own narrative. And in so doing, he is missing an important bit of misconduct by the press. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-44357253387234395932019-03-25T18:11:12.657-04:002019-03-25T18:11:12.657-04:00At least you’ll be happy, with one hand down your ...At least you’ll be happy, with one hand down your pants. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-91157461783444927482019-03-25T17:52:54.975-04:002019-03-25T17:52:54.975-04:00The joke's on liberal Ministry of Truth.The joke's on liberal Ministry of Truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-71897412391800214412019-03-25T17:43:01.143-04:002019-03-25T17:43:01.143-04:00You are right. That’s why Bob Somerby is a joke. You are right. That’s why Bob Somerby is a joke. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-66148343095389495312019-03-25T17:29:25.115-04:002019-03-25T17:29:25.115-04:00Error? Why, Bob only follows liberal propaganda, a...Error? Why, Bob only follows liberal propaganda, and obviously in his world Carter Page is disappeared and forgotten. Expunged from the news, memories, and history books... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-81689621970114943672019-03-25T17:12:38.007-04:002019-03-25T17:12:38.007-04:00Off topic. Somerby’s error is the topic. Try to ke...Off topic. Somerby’s error is the topic. Try to keep up. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-15519393485329523322019-03-25T17:09:56.815-04:002019-03-25T17:09:56.815-04:00"Apparently, the GOP want to make sure Carter..."Apparently, the GOP want to make sure Carter Page stays in the news. "<br /><br />Outrageous. Don't they know that everything that could embarrass liberals MUST be expunged from history? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-82345451708967416082019-03-25T16:50:03.669-04:002019-03-25T16:50:03.669-04:00“Carter Page still walking the streets! Perfidy by...“Carter Page still walking the streets! Perfidy by Cohen in Prague? Long gone, disappeared and forgotten!”<br /><br />Yeah, about that...<br />https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/graham-wants-a-new-special-counsel-to-probe-doj-handling-of-dossier-clinton-emails<br /><br />Apparently, the GOP want to make sure Carter Page stays in the news. <br /><br />Nice try, Bob. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-25513740515586899282019-03-25T16:13:05.609-04:002019-03-25T16:13:05.609-04:00Journalists, including the "liberal" NYT...Journalists, including the "liberal" NYTimes keep referring to the Mueller report, yet not a single fucking one of these journalists have actually seen a report written by Mueller.<br /><br />Quick: how many pages are in it?<br /><br />What they of course are referring to is a 3 1/2" summary by a right wing political hack who had a large role in covering up Iran Contra and issuing pardons to the criminals involved. Of course that was because they happened to be "republican" criminals.<br /><br />mmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-39571565572910674902019-03-25T15:55:45.894-04:002019-03-25T15:55:45.894-04:00Interesting view you have: there are no Republican...Interesting view you have: there are no Republican journalists. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-75672299140136443112019-03-25T15:54:02.939-04:002019-03-25T15:54:02.939-04:00So Somerby agrees with Drum, that Barr’s account i...So Somerby agrees with Drum, that Barr’s account is “extremely sketchy.” That should be cause for concern, that our AG might be engaged in some sort of whitewashing of facts. It is a matter of truthfulness, but it is also a political matter, and not an insignificant one. (One might recall Barr’s history here of protecting his own). <br /><br />Could this be related to the lack of new indictments? We don’t know. And we may never know, if Barr succeeds in hiding the report. In which case, his decision will have been “right.” <br /><br />And yet, given all this, Somerby reverts to his usual takeaway, that this is a bad look for journalists/liberals. If he actually agrees with Drum, then he should think about the implications of Drum’s views. <br /><br />Barr may have moved the goal posts, but Somerby’s complaint stays the same. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-16485851675905345722019-03-25T15:36:20.832-04:002019-03-25T15:36:20.832-04:00"It's been Manafort's sentence and li..."It's been Manafort's sentence and little else, night after night after night."<br /><br />I hope Mr Manafort is pardoned, asap. <br /><br />Justice would be served AND it'll allow liberals to masturbate some more. A win-win for everyone. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com