tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post5724787314977681659..comments2024-03-18T23:02:16.395-04:00Comments on the daily howler: THE CALIBER OF OUR OWN PROFESSORS: Harvard professor flies to Finland!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79241897382964297632015-10-18T06:31:36.576-04:002015-10-18T06:31:36.576-04:00moncler sale moncler jackets mens moncler jackets ...<a href="http://www.monclerjacketsoutletsale2015.com/" title="moncler sale" rel="nofollow"><strong>moncler sale</strong></a> <a href="http://www.monclerjacketsoutletsale2015.com/" title="moncler jackets mens" rel="nofollow"><strong>moncler jackets mens</strong></a> <a href="http://www.monclerjacketsoutletsale2015.com/" title="moncler jackets sale" rel="nofollow"><strong>moncler jackets sale</strong></a> <a href="http://www.monclerjacketsoutletsale2015.com/" title="moncler jackets outlet" rel="nofollow"><strong>moncler jackets outlet</strong></a> <a href="http://www.monclerjacketsoutletsale2015.com/" title="moncler online" rel="nofollow"><strong>moncler online</strong></a> <a href="http://www.monclerjacketsoutletsale2015.com/" title="moncler jackets women" rel="nofollow"><strong>moncler jackets women</strong></a> <a href="http://www.monclerjacketsoutletsale2015.com/" title="moncler doudoune" rel="nofollow"><strong>moncler doudoune</strong></a> <a href="http://www.monclerjacketsoutletsale2015.com/" title="moncler femme" rel="nofollow"><strong>moncler femme</strong></a> <a href="http://www.monclerjacketsoutletsale2015.com/" title="moncler jackets cheap" rel="nofollow"><strong>moncler jackets cheap</strong></a> <a href="http://www.monclerjacketsoutletsale2015.com/" title="outlet moncler" rel="nofollow"><strong>outlet moncler</strong></a> <a href="http://www.monclerjacketsoutletsale2015.com/" title="moncler shop" rel="nofollow"><strong>moncler shop</strong></a> <a href="http://www.monclerjacketsoutletsale2015.com/" title="moncler down jackets" rel="nofollow"><strong>moncler down jackets</strong></a> <a href="http://www.monclerjacketsoutletsale2015.com/" title="men moncler jackets" rel="nofollow"><strong>men moncler jackets</strong></a> <a href="http://www.canadagoosejacketsoutletonlinesale.com/" title="canada goose sale" rel="nofollow"><strong>canada goose sale</strong></a> <a href="http://www.canadagoosejacketsoutletonlinesale.com/" title="canada goose jackets" rel="nofollow"><strong>canada goose jackets</strong></a> <a href="http://www.canadagoosejacketsoutletonlinesale.com/" title="canada goose outlet" rel="nofollow"><strong>canada goose outlet</strong></a> <a href="http://www.canadagoosejacketsoutletonlinesale.com/" title="canada goose coats" rel="nofollow"><strong>canada goose coats</strong></a> <a href="http://www.canadagoosejacketsoutletonlinesale.com/" title="canada goose online" rel="nofollow"><strong>canada goose online</strong></a> <a href="http://www.canadagoosejacketsoutletonlinesale.com/" title="goose down jackets" rel="nofollow"><strong>goose down jackets</strong></a> <a href="http://www.canadagoosejacketsoutletonlinesale.com/" title="canada goose outlet online" rel="nofollow"><strong>canada goose outlet online</strong></a> <a href="http://www.canadagoosejacketsoutletonlinesale.com/" title="canada goose toronto" rel="nofollow"><strong>canada goose toronto</strong></a> <a href="http://www.canadagoosejacketsoutletonlinesale.com/" title="doudoune canada goose" rel="nofollow"><strong>doudoune canada goose</strong></a> <a href="http://www.canadagoosejacketsoutletonlinesale.com/" title="parka canada goose" rel="nofollow"><strong>parka canada goose</strong></a> <a href="http://www.canadagoosejacketsoutletonlinesale.com/" title="canada goose jakke" rel="nofollow"><strong>canada goose jakke</strong></a> <a href="http://www.canadagoosejacketsoutletonlinesale.com/" title="winter jackets canada" rel="nofollow"><strong>winter jackets canada</strong></a> <a href="http://www.canadagoosejacketsoutletonlinesale.com/" title="canada goose outlet stores" rel="nofollow"><strong>canada goose outlet stores</strong></a> <a href="http://www.monclerjacketsoutletsale2015.com/" title="moncler men" rel="nofollow"><strong>moncler men</strong></a> <a href="http://www.monclerjacketsoutletsale2015.com/" title="moncler jackets" rel="nofollow"><strong>moncler jackets</strong></a> <a href="http://www.monclerjacketsoutletsale2015.com/" title="moncler women" rel="nofollow"><strong>moncler women</strong></a> Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00440261967887444918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-17239905773719126812015-04-01T22:58:03.459-04:002015-04-01T22:58:03.459-04:00Ever since my Husband Reggie Silva Wills left me, ...Ever since my Husband Reggie Silva Wills left me, my Love life have been a mess. 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I'm so happy now, and i'm gonna live like tomorrow doesn't exist. because i have finally found the happiness and love that i've ever needed.. His Telephone number: +1 661 380 7946 Website: (http://lordshinnokspellte.wix.com/lordshinnoktemple) and also his Email address: lordshinnokspelltemple@outlook.com. Jeanne Wills.<br /><br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15614648092515224655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-45481464870955638812015-03-11T10:16:10.028-04:002015-03-11T10:16:10.028-04:00KZ is wrong and trivial. And you notice he didn&#...KZ is wrong and trivial. And you notice he didn't comment once during the important posts, like Brian Williams crazy stories about Vienna sausages. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-56261657903629305042015-03-11T09:45:11.394-04:002015-03-11T09:45:11.394-04:00Excellent points indeed DinC. and 7:05. And let&#...Excellent points indeed DinC. and 7:05. And let's be clear. While there are many liberals promoting victimology among blacks and Hispanics, leading some of them to think they can steal and punch cops, clearly the former are better off than they would be in Africa which is why the latter are climbing fences to get here.<br /><br />Right? Which is why I hope Somerby covers the foolish attention being paid to this fraternity business in Oklahoma instead of important issues like Guinier and other race baiters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-47490348515447210002015-03-10T23:00:37.713-04:002015-03-10T23:00:37.713-04:00Let's repeat what I asked @ 8:21 back when he/...Let's repeat what I asked @ 8:21 back when he/she was saying things @ 2:11/2:55:<br />------------------------------------------------------<br />@ 3:33<br /><br />You just wrote two things that arouse my curiosity:<br /><br />1) "When someone is a professor, they have an extra responsibility not to spread misinformation... . She shouldn't just make stuff up."<br /><br />2) "I think we all bear responsibility for not spreading misinformation"<br /><br />What misinformation did Guinier spread? What stuff did she just make up?<br />----------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />Five hours, and at least one comment in between later, the best @ 8:21 can come up with is:<br /><br />"Somerby documents her misinformation." Sorry, no. <strong>You</strong> said she spreads misinformation.<br /><br /><strong>You</strong> said we all bear responsibility. You are responsible for your accusations. You made them.<br /><br />Somerby documents it? Pray tell us what misinformation does <strong>he</strong> document, since in five hours you could come up with nothing to justify the statement you made on your own.<br /><br />Still stumped?<br /><br />Academicians are trained, you say? Somerby's grandpa's monkey's were trained too, we are told.<br /><br />You have committed the fallacy of showing you are an empty headed follower spreading misinformation your trainer planted in your head.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-61692327824186200582015-03-10T22:33:21.729-04:002015-03-10T22:33:21.729-04:00Name one thing he said which was wrong @ 8:27. Name one thing he said which was wrong @ 8:27. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-9188501718873050312015-03-10T22:08:15.201-04:002015-03-10T22:08:15.201-04:00DiC,
Rising prosperity has been the luck of the 1...DiC,<br /><br />Rising prosperity has been the luck of the 10%. For the rest of us, it's been stagnant incomes for the last 30 years. Thank Regan, he ushered in the dissolution of the middle class.<br /><br />SAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-91663869053943899902015-03-10T21:47:14.941-04:002015-03-10T21:47:14.941-04:00Excellent points D in C.Excellent points D in C.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-71440871049631342862015-03-10T20:27:35.700-04:002015-03-10T20:27:35.700-04:00KZ is wrong. He isn't deep, he is fixated on t...KZ is wrong. He isn't deep, he is fixated on trivialities that neglect the point being made while portraying Somerby as venal. This is a reflection of his disordered thinking. He routinely mistakes a feature for a bug -- perhaps because he cannot follow a train of thought to a conclusion. KZ is too pathetic to be on either tribe's side.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-78348981014641781232015-03-10T20:21:14.772-04:002015-03-10T20:21:14.772-04:00She isn't an expert on any of education in the...She isn't an expert on any of education in the US. Including the word "all" implies she knows something, but apparently not much. She should have redirected the question to something she was more familiar with. <br /><br />Somerby documents her misinformation. If you disagree with him, explain your beef instead of posting obscure remarks about other commenters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-20816380976698988242015-03-10T18:31:40.374-04:002015-03-10T18:31:40.374-04:00Well I was typing when @ 2:15/2:55 reappeared to d...Well I was typing when @ 2:15/2:55 reappeared to defend<br />fuzzy comment. Nothing on the trained academic Guinier's misinformation though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-27425622576706297392015-03-10T18:29:29.965-04:002015-03-10T18:29:29.965-04:00Well, since 2:15/2:55 is still pondering, allow us...Well, since 2:15/2:55 is still pondering, allow us to quote from Ms. Guinier's interview with Salon, as linked by Somerby:<br /><br />Answer to second question:<br /><br />"I don’t claim to be an expert on all of education in the United States."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-66806515302271590812015-03-10T18:26:56.299-04:002015-03-10T18:26:56.299-04:00@3:59 You have repeated exactly what I said @2:55....@3:59 You have repeated exactly what I said @2:55. Then you say my logic is flawed. I'm not sure what your point is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-81434238656041438722015-03-10T16:38:02.427-04:002015-03-10T16:38:02.427-04:00Bob mentions child poverty as a factor that makes ...Bob mentions child poverty as a factor that makes our educational results worse than Finland's. But, does poverty cause children to perform worse in school? If so, by what mechanism?<br /><br />That might be the case if poverty meant that the child was starving or had no place to live or lacked other necessities. But, we don't define "poverty" in terms of lacking essentials. Instead, it's defined as a percentage of how wealthy other people are. <br /><br />Thanks to various government programs and thanks to decades of rising prosperity, most American children "living in poverty" have adequate food, shelter, clothing, transportation, etc. They have access to medical care. They "typically have cell phones (as well as landline phones), computers, televisions, video recorders, air conditioning, refrigerators, gas or electric stoves, and washers and dryers and microwaves", <a href="http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/census-americans-poverty-typically-have-cell-phones-computers-tvs" rel="nofollow"> according to a report from the Census Bureau. </a> In absolute terms, today's typical impoverished American child is considerably wealthier than I was when I attended elementary school.<br /><br />Of course, poor children are indeed worse students on average. However, correlation isn't necessarily causation. I think the reasons for this correlation are not simply that poverty makes children into worse students.David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-1907407511026407752015-03-10T16:20:50.298-04:002015-03-10T16:20:50.298-04:002:15/ 2:55
Pregnant with pausing. Fallow with a...2:15/ 2:55 <br /><br />Pregnant with pausing. Fallow with answers. Perhaps lacking self-expertise wishes to avoid further responsibility.Wonder Olandnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-6579976976081999922015-03-10T15:59:29.330-04:002015-03-10T15:59:29.330-04:002:55 stated:
"If P then Q
Not P
Conclude Not ...2:55 stated:<br />"If P then Q<br />Not P<br />Conclude Not Q"<br /><br />Your logic is flawed. <br /><br />"If P then Q", does not always mean "Not P then Not Q"<br /><br />Example. If Pregnant then Sexually Active. Does not always mean If not Pregnant then not Sexually Active.<br /><br />Carry on. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-3987683456575342772015-03-10T15:39:53.116-04:002015-03-10T15:39:53.116-04:00Trollcalling (aka stuff we dismiss because its ove...Trollcalling (aka stuff we dismiss because its over our head but tribal reaction is expected).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-30770106912547462112015-03-10T15:33:07.901-04:002015-03-10T15:33:07.901-04:00Excuse me @ 2:11/2:55.
You just wrote two things ...Excuse me @ 2:11/2:55.<br /><br />You just wrote two things that arouse my curiosity:<br /><br />1) "When someone is a professor, they have an extra responsibility not to spread misinformation... . She shouldn't just make stuff up."<br /><br />2) "I think we all bear responsibility for not spreading misinformation"<br /><br />What misinformation did Guinier spread? What stuff did she<br />just make up?<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-77543402074984509322015-03-10T15:20:26.451-04:002015-03-10T15:20:26.451-04:00Warning to casual readers of this blog: These comm...Warning to casual readers of this blog: These comments are infested by one or more trolls who routinely attack the blog author. While these comments are unmoderated, they are monitored by writhing, screaming imaginary friends of the author who can see Finland coming before you can say "Lake Woebegon." Combine equal parts gorilla dust and Powdermilk biscuit mix, bake in cracked pot, and wait until test scores rise. Disclaimer and Directionsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-63832778183815530732015-03-10T15:03:10.630-04:002015-03-10T15:03:10.630-04:00"Finland is... the Lake Wobegon of the wester..."Finland is... the Lake Wobegon of the western world."<br /><br />Deep thought emerging from a mind populated with constantly crying, screaming, and writhing companions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-33504303852472401912015-03-10T14:55:01.757-04:002015-03-10T14:55:01.757-04:00It isn't clear whether you are suggesting Some...It isn't clear whether you are suggesting Somerby has no responsibility or claiming that I did -- I didn't. Either way, it is faulty logic: <br /><br />If P then Q<br />Not P<br />Conclude Not Q<br /><br />You have committed the fallacy called denying the antecedent or inverse fallacy. It is mistaken reasoning because it leads to a possibly untrue conclusion. <br /><br />I think we all bear responsibility for not spreading misinformation but academics are trained not to. The same is not true for Somerby. If you think he is wrong about something feel free to point out what it is, instead of just carping in odd ways.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-55780132557406491232015-03-10T14:45:14.597-04:002015-03-10T14:45:14.597-04:00"Somerby's complaint is that too many of ..."Somerby's complaint is that too many of our professors do this kind of thing." Since Somerby has absolutely no academic expertise in anything he bears no responsibility to avoid misinformation.<br /><br />Are you really as stupid as you write?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-46297810471580787702015-03-10T14:11:50.833-04:002015-03-10T14:11:50.833-04:00Academics are taught not to offer authoritative co...Academics are taught not to offer authoritative comments on topics outside their field of expertise. She made herself a target by speaking without knowing what she was talking about. Somerby's complaint is that too many of our professors do this kind of thing. I agree. When someone is a professor, they have an extra responsibility not to spread misinformation because it is their job to be an expert. If she didn't know she should have talked about the political aspects of education or said that she wasn't current in her knowledge about public schools. She shouldn't just make stuff up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-35023015803491624862015-03-10T14:01:45.971-04:002015-03-10T14:01:45.971-04:00Trollsplaining (aka garbage not worth reading)Trollsplaining (aka garbage not worth reading)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-51260454163325303892015-03-10T14:00:38.426-04:002015-03-10T14:00:38.426-04:00That KZ. Spreading vitriol. By copying Somerby...That KZ. Spreading vitriol. By copying Somerby's own words.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com