tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post5769769263413591743..comments2024-03-28T14:33:44.704-04:00Comments on the daily howler: PROVOST/PROFESSORS/TEENAGERS/DOGMA: Ambiguity versus dogma!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-22098518182681757032016-06-29T01:59:39.981-04:002016-06-29T01:59:39.981-04:00"I only hope you will find the time and way t..."I only hope you will find the time and way to get beyond these mere hints at the futility and danger of a certain brand of discourse."<br /><br />Dream on.Skates Mulrooneynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-86225275294717517792016-06-28T17:08:30.650-04:002016-06-28T17:08:30.650-04:00Why would you be outraged at someone for raising t...Why would you be outraged at someone for raising the prison furlough issue? <br /><br />Al Gore did not make prison furlough an issue, he only barely mentioned it in one of the 45 debates that primary campaign. He correctly pointed out that it was a bad policy. <br /><br />It was Bush's campaign that made it a dog whistle for racists with their Willie Horton ads. It was the press that incorrectly conflated Gore with Willie Horton, thus suckering the masses.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-43009448406151770812016-06-28T12:29:43.052-04:002016-06-28T12:29:43.052-04:00You lay it out for all to see.You lay it out for all to see.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-58037601586159166052016-06-28T10:28:01.461-04:002016-06-28T10:28:01.461-04:00The bartender is Bob's dumpster. Except the d...The bartender is Bob's dumpster. Except the dumpster was real, not hypothetical. Like the Skittles.Kid in a Hoodienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-73003344339343658272016-06-28T10:22:29.710-04:002016-06-28T10:22:29.710-04:00"you think...you make fun...you actually thin..."you think...you make fun...you actually think...you don't even care...you're just squirming to rationalize...laps you've taken...you know"<br /><br />You certainly know somebody's state of mind better than the Justice Department thought they new Governor McDonnell's. At least they had some evidence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-88147698005456756202016-06-28T09:59:36.247-04:002016-06-28T09:59:36.247-04:00So you think that someone should go to jail based ...So you think that someone should go to jail based upon what you think the quid pro quo laws should be changed to?<br /><br />You make fun of Somerby's use of the royal We, but you actually think your views should override the actual law.<br /><br />Come on, you don't even care about bribery laws. You're just squirming to rationalize your many, many victory laps you've taken over this (hardly big money) scandal.<br /><br />You know the Blackwater bs is still going on, but Maddow doesn't want to pee on the present administration. I think you'll find the money slushing around there dwarfs $175K.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-72041360668508300212016-06-27T23:06:41.825-04:002016-06-27T23:06:41.825-04:00Let's be clear. We know of no reason to think ...Let's be clear. We know of no reason to think that test scores always reflect cheating, whether in whole or in part.<br /><br />That said, we also can't say that cheating isn't a factor....We only note that reporters completely skip this possibility. Within the past few years, the problem of outright cheating on standardized tests finally achieved recognition as a potential and actual major problem— That said, most researchers work with data from statewide testing programs, and outright cheating on these tests has been a problem for decades.<br /><br />You seem to think it is a joke to mention this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-90523517601349852662016-06-27T22:54:09.108-04:002016-06-27T22:54:09.108-04:00"Good work! Readers weren't told that the..."Good work! Readers weren't told that the probation officer had recommended a sentence of 4-6 months. Nor were they told that the heroic professor only seemed to recommend 2-3 years, with less time actually served."<br /><br />Bob Somerby<br /><br />Actually Mr. Somerby, they were told about the "heroic" professor.<br /><br />From the LA Times Article:<br /><br />"<strong>8) A Stanford law professor urged the judge to sentence Turner to at least two to three years.</strong><br />In a letter to Persky, Stanford law professor Michele Dauber detailed her personal relationship with the victim, who has been a close friend of the professor’s daughter since middle school. Dauber, who has since launched a campaign to remove Persky from the bench, described the victim as a “lovely, warm, talented, funny girl” who came from a “close, loving, involved family.”<br /><br />Dauber had urged Persky to sentence Turner in accordance with the statutory guidelines, “with minimum sentences of two to three years of incarceration for the crimes for which Turner was convicted.”<br /><br />And readers were also told about the probation office's recommendation, in an article by Rocha and another reporter written three days earlier.<br /><br />http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-judge-stanford-rape-20160607-snap-story.html<br /><br />What is it called when a blogger lies like Trump in one part of a post, then disappears something while falsely accusing journalists of that very act?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-8637658418506396322016-06-27T22:12:09.253-04:002016-06-27T22:12:09.253-04:00This is clearly all a big joke to you. Sad.This is clearly all a big joke to you. Sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-87465890813464687272016-06-27T19:41:44.411-04:002016-06-27T19:41:44.411-04:00No, simply enforce laws that exist to prevent this...No, simply enforce laws that exist to prevent this stupidity before it produces tragic consequences. Where the hell are the grown-ups? Institutions of higher learning are not the place for a culture of binge drinking. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-76503178346247782962016-06-27T17:44:52.157-04:002016-06-27T17:44:52.157-04:00Anonymous @ 4:43 has it right. If the police had ...Anonymous @ 4:43 has it right. If the police had simply arrested the younbg lady when she woke up in the hospital and charged her with PI, she might have gotten help for her drinking problem and would probably never know the pain caused by finding out about something that happened while she was unconcious.<br /><br />Meanwhile the police could probably have scared young Brock Turner straight by locking him up a couple of nights with the likes of Speaker Hastert and Jerry Sandusky.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-82897825008574962032016-06-27T17:34:26.511-04:002016-06-27T17:34:26.511-04:00The Provost/Professor series is another in the exc...The Provost/Professor series is another in the excellent work Bob Somerby has done to expose the frauds that teach our children. <br /><br />We pseudos should have learned from the cheating on standardized tests, but no. We waited until children get hurt.<br /><br />http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-high-school-teacher-catfishing-20160627-snap-story.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-85453556336623855432016-06-27T17:13:34.168-04:002016-06-27T17:13:34.168-04:00"A few ancillary questions: What did you thin..."A few ancillary questions: What did you think about the 19-year sentence the teenager got in this recent case? What did you think about last week's long-delayed resolution of this police homicide case?"<br /><br />I think I am as outraged as I was at Al Gore, during his run for President, for taking the initiative the issue of creating prison fuloughs as an issue in the 1988 Democratic race for President.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-67828151759995943882016-06-27T17:00:35.446-04:002016-06-27T17:00:35.446-04:00It is truly a shame Jane Doe was not charged for f...It is truly a shame Jane Doe was not charged for forcing that Judge to have to deal with things that make Bob Somerby sorry for him.<br />Not to mention making that poor group of jurors have to get so far out over their skis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-65934013846470290952016-06-27T16:57:27.230-04:002016-06-27T16:57:27.230-04:00"We can't answer your questions....More s..."We can't answer your questions....More specifically, we don't know much about sentencing decisions in cases of this general type. Check that! In fact, we don't know anything about sentencing decisions in cases of this general type."<br /><br />However, Bob Somerby, through extensive academic and personal study as well as decades of personal and professional experience knows how such matters should be covered by the press. In fact, he knows how all matters should both be covered and, when he determines it has not been so covered, why it was not. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-21800610587724655542016-06-27T16:43:14.754-04:002016-06-27T16:43:14.754-04:00Underage drinking is against the law, as is public...Underage drinking is against the law, as is public drunkeness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-14256522973152491072016-06-27T15:36:29.051-04:002016-06-27T15:36:29.051-04:00At least when the female victim is drunk!!!!At least when the female victim is drunk!!!!Heddupp S. Ascottnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-23475926609092693242016-06-27T15:32:46.238-04:002016-06-27T15:32:46.238-04:00"Last month's sudden death of Justice Ant..."Last month's sudden death of Justice Antonin Scalia at a Texas hunting lodge, where he was staying for free as a guest of a Texas businessman, put a spotlight on a long-simmering ethical issue.<br /><br />Should Supreme Court justices be taking trips paid for by business people, political activists, ideological organizations, or anyone with vested interests in the broad legal issues that come before the court?<br /><br />The short answer is no, they shouldn't.<br /><br />But they are. From 2004 to 2014, the nine justices took more than 1,000 reported trips paid for by outside sources. Scalia was by far the most traveled, with more than 23 trips on average a year, followed by Justice Stephen Breyer, with 17. Chief Justice John Roberts took the least, fewer than five per year.<br /><br />We’re not suggesting that the justices are for sale. Or that they improperly discuss pending court cases. We are saying it looks bad for any judge, let alone the nine men and women who decide the most far-reaching issues of the day, to accept free trips, some of which are never publicly disclosed and many of which are paid for by private groups with clear agendas."<br /><br />http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/03/07/supreme-court-travel-disclosure-ethics-editorials-debates/81453754/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-13984901931621033542016-06-27T14:59:38.638-04:002016-06-27T14:59:38.638-04:00Of course that's the only reason we would allo...Of course that's the only reason we would allow it. Not because it isn't illegal.<br /><br />Scandal politics are for those that have no philosophy. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-25804176675858925822016-06-27T14:58:24.005-04:002016-06-27T14:58:24.005-04:00Somerby's a Dry!!!!Somerby's a Dry!!!!Peak Trollnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-23978484370719116252016-06-27T14:46:40.378-04:002016-06-27T14:46:40.378-04:00"A bar tender faces legal trouble if he behav..."A bar tender faces legal trouble if he behaves as that Stanford fraternity did. That said, the frats just keep on pouring, with the same results again and again and again."<br /><br />Perhaps Bob will crusade for another prohibition of manufacture, sale, and consumption of alcoholic beverages. That prohibition certainly put a dent in the incidence of rape during the brief time this noble experiment was in effect last century.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-48463666701594871982016-06-27T13:53:46.296-04:002016-06-27T13:53:46.296-04:00Clearly we have to allow an elected official to ac...Clearly we have to allow an elected official to accept over $175,000 in gifts from someone seeking actions by institutions he oversees in his official capacity because to call that criminal might mean it might- possibly-could become criminal for a politician to go to a ballgame with a neighborhood association after the official inquired why it was taking so long to get electric service restored to the neighborhood. <br /><br />Horseshit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-80230382562301613362016-06-27T13:45:47.991-04:002016-06-27T13:45:47.991-04:00Maddow is such a hack and a fake. Maddow is such a hack and a fake. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-11073980045443276252016-06-27T13:40:46.833-04:002016-06-27T13:40:46.833-04:00Only if it makes her advertisers happy.Only if it makes her advertisers happy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-21126497902678008992016-06-27T12:30:19.504-04:002016-06-27T12:30:19.504-04:00"The intersection between"
"dogma i..."The intersection between"<br />"dogma intersects"<br />"keep us from discussing the intersection"<br /><br />I see what you are doing there. <br /><br />I only hope you will find the time and way to get beyond these mere hints at the futility and danger of a certain brand of discourse...Livernoreply@blogger.com