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LeroyThis might be a better riposte.<br /><br /><a href="https://youtu.be/ybuCmgyQE6o" rel="nofollow">LINK</a><br /><br />LeroyLeroyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02021120389394278239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-58462800223190598692021-01-29T20:39:17.204-05:002021-01-29T20:39:17.204-05:00Judging from your post, I imagine you would enjoy ...Judging from your post, I imagine you would enjoy this.<br /><br /><a href="javascript:void(0);" rel="nofollow">LINK</a><br /><br />LeroyLeroyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02021120389394278239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-30996921372221650282021-01-29T18:40:59.591-05:002021-01-29T18:40:59.591-05:00Bob demonstrated ably the horrible behavior of the...Bob demonstrated ably the horrible behavior of the press against Gore. Gore read the tea leaves, in many more ways than one on climate, but was openly scorned by some like Matthews, who said Gore would “lick the bathroom floor” to become President. Jesus. I like Gore, still do, and voted for him of course back in the time. Shit, the MSM said Chimpy McDumbfuck won a debate against Gore back then. Jesus.<br /><br />Quite aside from that, the ICE will never go away, nor will petroleum. They’re too valuable to our societies, such as they are, until we’ve all reached a point in civilization that it’s simply not possible to build or maintain them (and that time is coming soon).<br /><br />So how does the ICE get ‘phased out?’ Why, you have to mine for the materials you need to build an electric car, stamp the steel, produce the rubber (from petroleum), use all kinds of plastics (from petroleum), build micro-chips (somehow) etc. just as we do now, except the focus has shifted to battery power plants. So, we power all of current society with fuckin batteries?<br /><br />What do you do with all of the jobs that will be lost? Battery powered cars don’t need maintenance. ICE-powered cars need an endless array products for the power plant itself, iron, aluminum or magnesium ore, steel, spark plugs, spark plug wires, all which must be sourced, the sourcing of which creates an almost endless array of jobs in the supply chain, and for the finished product afterwards, car dealers and shops.<br /><br />Batteries can’t stop with cars. We will need to power our homes with batteries. Because last I checked, tail-pipe emissions only account for about 25% of industrial totals, with energy-producing plants producing a far greater volume of CO2.<br /><br />Hm. All in order to keep us maintaining the same lifestyle we now enjoy. With windmills and solar? No… I don’t think it’s possible.<br /><br /> In order to really get the climate back to “normal” – over a massive time-span – we would almost have to revert to a much simpler, non-industrial agrarian culture.<br /><br />Ain’t gonna happen. I think. But you never know. We humans can be quite resourceful.<br /><br />Leroy<br />Leroyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02021120389394278239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-73592658716207174392021-01-29T18:23:00.843-05:002021-01-29T18:23:00.843-05:00GM is stating a goal, not an accomplishment. It is...GM is stating a goal, not an accomplishment. It is a little early to celebrate Gore's prediction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-71095297011288359982021-01-29T18:22:09.246-05:002021-01-29T18:22:09.246-05:00Fuck off LeroyFuck off LeroyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-39705916452864986152021-01-29T18:22:03.629-05:002021-01-29T18:22:03.629-05:00This struck me from one of Somerby’s old posts tha...This struck me from one of Somerby’s old posts that he linked here, from 1999:<br /><br />“We have no idea of Kakutani's politics; we do <i>not</i> suggest, in any way, that politics drives this review. But the writing she does here—hunting for isolated passages from a lengthy book that can be made to sound silly when torn out of context—is exactly what the two parties do when they engage in "opposition research." It harms our discourse when the parties do it, but here it's done by a major reviewer, in service, not to a political agenda, but to the new god, Conventional Wisdom.”<br /><br />http://www.dailyhowler.com/h120299_1.shtml<br /><br />Here, he was still keeping the press separate from politics. <br /><br />Fast forward to today, and he is not only quick to bring politics into his media criticism by labeling reporters liberal and assuming they operate from a liberal motivation, but he also puts the mainstream press squarely in “Our Town” and claims their failures as “ours.”<br /><br />That’s one of the reasons I preferred his writing back then. mhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08937133532381705347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-83133343722387080562021-01-29T17:56:18.925-05:002021-01-29T17:56:18.925-05:00IdiotIdiotLeroyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02021120389394278239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-12785409288402478502021-01-29T17:39:27.275-05:002021-01-29T17:39:27.275-05:00"This was largely done here in Our Town, not ..."This was largely done here in Our Town, not among the various crazies who live Over There."<br /><br />Somerby recognizes only two towns: (1) over there -- Republicans, as if they were monolithic, and (2) our town -- Democrats, as if we were monolithic.<br /><br />This leaves out the large mass of people who don't vote, all of the Independents (some leaning conservative, some leaning liberal), all the third parties. It also fails to recognize the Republicans are split, as are Democrats. Further, he ignores that professional journalism reflects the spectrum of political belief and that corporate interests do not necessarily impose a single political perspective on a publication. For example, Kevin Drum is at best a moderate Democrat but he wrote for a leftist publication (Mother Jones). Maureen Dowd may nominally call herself a Democrat but she is both sexist and opposed to Democratic candidates, especially the Clintons, Edwards and Gore. Or maybe she just attacks whoever is prominent in service of her own catty style, egged on by her editors. The NY Times has some liberal voices but many others who are conservative, and yet others who call themselves liberal while shilling for the Republicans. <br /><br />Somerby only sees two camps but there is a bustling diversity of opinions and voices in the media. None of them were elected to represent Democrats or liberals, and none of them speaks for anyone except themselves, or sometimes their editors and publication. These are not the intellectual leaders of "our town". Somerby's attempt to foist them off on us is propaganda. It is easy to mischaracterize in order to condemn. Somerby does that every day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-53463942585255675012021-01-29T17:23:02.507-05:002021-01-29T17:23:02.507-05:00Gore's election devolved into a popularity con...Gore's election devolved into a popularity contest because Bush ran as a frat boy.<br /><br />In a popularity contest insults like girly-man and loony feminist make sense because the issues apparently don't matter, just how cool someone is. Gore apparently didn't manage to make any issues, policies or programs salient. That may be because he chose to disassociate himself from Clinton's administration and wouldn't run on a Democratic record, but failed to establish himself and what he stood for. Remember that this was before his movie An Inconvenient Truth came out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-84460259952972455582021-01-29T17:15:36.065-05:002021-01-29T17:15:36.065-05:00"In the end, Kakutani got Bush elected."..."In the end, Kakutani got Bush elected."<br /><br />This is ridiculous. For one thing, she is too obscure to have had any measurable effect on the election. Gore lost the election because Bush's brother counted the votes in FL. It is as simple as that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-49422066397992724812021-01-29T17:12:04.963-05:002021-01-29T17:12:04.963-05:00I would think that Gore's predictions about cl...I would think that Gore's predictions about climate change, not the ones about the internal combustion engine, would be the biggest vindication of his attempts to draw attention to the effects of carbon emissions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-35101845130092539082021-01-29T17:08:23.998-05:002021-01-29T17:08:23.998-05:00"In conducting their punishment war against G..."In conducting their punishment war against Gore, the children frequently suggested that he was possibly battling some sort of mental health issues."<br /><br />And this is exactly why you don't call a politician crazy when he is actually doing and saying evil things. You stick to criticizing his or her behavior or political statements and skip the name-calling.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-42055305613442460442021-01-29T16:55:22.460-05:002021-01-29T16:55:22.460-05:00"In truth, there was nothing these idiots wou..."In truth, there was nothing these idiots wouldn't say, nothing they wouldn't throw out there."<br /><br />Somerby seems to think that Gore should have been greeted by unanimous praise, with no political opposition whatsoever. He seems loathe to allow anyone to have a negative opinion about anything Gore said or did. That just isn't realistic. Again, these are very trivial complaints. It isn't like he was being accused of having a mistress or love child, or having embezzled money or colluded with Russia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-24950673956262174282021-01-29T16:52:38.564-05:002021-01-29T16:52:38.564-05:00"and loony asides about "inner ecology&q..."and loony asides about "inner ecology" and "spiritual triangulation""<br /><br />Those terms are psychobabble, especially if you don't explain what they mean, which wouldn't be possible in an "aside."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-18179593091986322822021-01-29T16:31:04.087-05:002021-01-29T16:31:04.087-05:00Your Demigod Gore is not loony, dear Bob.
He'...Your Demigod Gore is not loony, dear Bob. <br /><br />He's a businessman, very much like tv evangelists. He makes money by predicting apocalypse, serving global finance (see Michael Moore's Planet of The Humyns), and terrifying poor retarded liberals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-1492718322169278942021-01-29T16:28:41.765-05:002021-01-29T16:28:41.765-05:00The Daily Beast isn't "Our Town" or ...The Daily Beast isn't "Our Town" or "over here" or part of any liberal press. It doesn't speak for liberals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-55214802774279833092021-01-29T16:26:01.314-05:002021-01-29T16:26:01.314-05:00correction: who hate religion...correction: who hate religion...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-3717321418830397372021-01-29T16:23:50.409-05:002021-01-29T16:23:50.409-05:00Yes there is a clear equivalency between: (1) beli...Yes there is a clear equivalency between: (1) believing that the Clinton's had people murdered while running a child pornography ring out of a pizza parlor basement (which had no basement) while being lizard people disguised as politicians and celebrities, and (2) believing that minorities should have equal rights with the majority or that income inequality is bad and wealth should be redistributed?<br /><br />Somerby presents these as if they were equally crazy propositions. Do you agree with that?<br /><br />Personally, I think Somerby is promulgating more craziness here. He is fostering conservative hatred toward Democrats (and liberals) by portraying liberals as bad, just as crazy as the right, Somerby claims. We don't need more of that.<br /><br />If Somerby is worried about division in our country, he should be interviewing liberals to find out what we actually think and trying to address the myths on the right about Democrats being a bunch of socialists who had religion and want to propagandize children. But I haven't heard him address a single word to combat the craziness on the right. He just chastises the left for being liberal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com