tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post6165830135312055237..comments2024-03-28T20:37:26.897-04:00Comments on the daily howler: Rachel Maddow keeps selling the product!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-48400898917398307772014-06-21T10:54:00.648-04:002014-06-21T10:54:00.648-04:00That is a really beautiful transformation and I ca...That is a really beautiful transformation and I cannot believe how clever and simple the idea of stacking the Ikea shelves is.<br />who want to know more information about Dogging , dogging in the uk please visit <br />http://whosdogging.co.uk/<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15494072956374202399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-58363692895883634912014-02-20T13:03:48.073-05:002014-02-20T13:03:48.073-05:00No one expects the Alaskan disquisition!
No one expects the Alaskan disquisition!<br />deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-86624106115652866262014-02-20T13:02:26.193-05:002014-02-20T13:02:26.193-05:00How much slower do I have to type to be understood...How much slower do I have to type to be understood? My comment about Maddow and investigative journalism isn't directed at Maddow. I realize that's not her job. The comment was directed at someone who does.<br /><br />Believe it or not, I found Maddow annoying on other grounds long before TDH started to smack her down for her "reporting" on Christie.deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-46953372526199416382014-02-20T10:05:51.746-05:002014-02-20T10:05:51.746-05:00Right. Congress was lost because Keith Olbermann s...Right. Congress was lost because Keith Olbermann said vile things about Carrie Prejean.<br /><br />And pray tell, how did "they" take out Palin in 2010? You are talking about the former Governor of Alaska who quit serving her people to go on a book tour, aren't you?<br /><br />Or are you talking about Michael Palin of Monty Python fame?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-23368401141886300742014-02-20T10:02:12.702-05:002014-02-20T10:02:12.702-05:00Yes, we have learned from no less authority that B...Yes, we have learned from no less authority that Bob himself that Maddow is nothing more than a partisan hack, paid to gin up controversies about Repbulicans like poor set-upon Chris Christie and Bob McDonnell.<br /><br />Actually, unlike our intrepid blogger who abandoned the book about the 2000 campaign when he found out it was going to take some work beyond cutting and pasting his blog posts, Maddow actually does some interviews and some real research. <br /><br />But no, she doesn't even pretend to be the investigative journalists who have been dogging the Christie story since September. But she has had them on her show. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-10721323942032454942014-02-20T08:24:48.346-05:002014-02-20T08:24:48.346-05:00Her job is more than simply getting viewers. That ...Her job is more than simply getting viewers. That is the point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-28791821679931175842014-02-20T07:07:08.250-05:002014-02-20T07:07:08.250-05:00Rachel Maddow is the host of a cable news program....Rachel Maddow is the host of a cable news program. She is not pretending to be an investigative journalistic. She invites the actual journalists onto her program to discuss their work. Pay attention.<br /><br />She tries to do this in an exciting way. That's her job, to get viewers. I'm sorry this bugs you.mmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-45501449777207330392014-02-20T00:54:25.059-05:002014-02-20T00:54:25.059-05:00I wonder if they (MSNBC corporate Democrats) plan ...I wonder if they (MSNBC corporate Democrats) plan to try and play this out through November as a key National issue? This not not going to wear well. Reminds me so much of '10 when they took out Palin, took down the beauty contestant, and did their part to help piss away a mandate. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-59165762382683427582014-02-20T00:35:48.200-05:002014-02-20T00:35:48.200-05:00Too bad your understanding isn't commensurate ...Too bad your understanding isn't commensurate with your understanding. Tell me again why it's bad that TDH criticized Maher last year for one thing but praises him today for another?deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-42304769476992469302014-02-20T00:32:11.741-05:002014-02-20T00:32:11.741-05:00Gotta say LOVE that you think Darlin' Rachel i...Gotta say LOVE that you think Darlin' Rachel is doing "investigative journalism."deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-74396338659476110102014-02-20T00:01:50.668-05:002014-02-20T00:01:50.668-05:00No, Maddow is being flogged for wasting time on em...No, Maddow is being flogged for wasting time on empty reports built-up as if they were saying something new.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-47882388523446540632014-02-19T22:41:56.719-05:002014-02-19T22:41:56.719-05:00Gotta say LOVE that investigative journalism is be...Gotta say LOVE that investigative journalism is being attacked for, well, investigating and reporting ?? <br /><br />-- amazing too how similar to Nixon and his gang attacking the 'press' for their persistence. Early on into Watergate, Nixon blamed the 'press' for "having created a story out of nothing" ... funny how that turned out.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-76408991591264083312014-02-19T18:39:36.959-05:002014-02-19T18:39:36.959-05:00You know, just because we are between "blockb...You know, just because we are between "blockbuster" e-mails and documents at the moment, that doesn't mean that there hasn't been anything to report.<br /><br />But then of course, you wouldn't know that if your chief source of information was Somerby. In fact, you might think this was all just a "massively ginned-up controversy" cooked up by a "partisan hack" over a "real traffic study" and Christie's "phony childhood friends."<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-21135850425673173272014-02-19T18:35:35.684-05:002014-02-19T18:35:35.684-05:00Sure. "A simple apology." Five months la...Sure. "A simple apology." Five months later. From David Samson, who has finally spoken his first public words, which were to blame "a few individuals" for the whole mess -- and guess who has lost their Port Authority jobs over this?<br /><br />"Pro forma"? With several investigations bearing down? Some of which are beginning to turn up serious questions of conflict of interest between Samson's PA position and the developer-clients his firm represents?<br /><br />Sure. Nothing to see here. Move on. This will surely turn out to be a "real traffic study" after all.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-58704663233206984722014-02-19T17:23:39.388-05:002014-02-19T17:23:39.388-05:00They are both complaining because time has been sp...They are both complaining because time has been spent without anything new to report -- that is not the same as complaining about the investigation or saying the scandal doesn't matter (if it turns out there is a scandal there).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-11058673304791298942014-02-19T17:22:08.289-05:002014-02-19T17:22:08.289-05:00How do you get from a simple apology to the Port A...How do you get from a simple apology to the Port Authority board for the inconvenience to travelers, to anyone being thrown under a bus? This is so general as to be pro forma. The lanes were closed and there was inconvenience -- nothing is being admitted. This means nothing at all.<br /><br />Will it be hyped as breaking news by Maddow? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-25344703913389181632014-02-19T16:23:40.502-05:002014-02-19T16:23:40.502-05:00Holy excrement! Is Samson throwing Baroni under th...Holy excrement! Is Samson throwing Baroni under the bus? Samson? The guy who was "helping to retaliate" against the "NY side" and against Foye for "leaking?"<br /><br />Anybody want to guess who makes the immunity deal first? Baroni, Wildstein, Kelly or all of the above?<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-14187151550560826942014-02-19T16:17:37.287-05:002014-02-19T16:17:37.287-05:00Really? No one is complaining about the investigat...Really? No one is complaining about the investigation of Christie? Well, Maher certainly is, and his "old pal" certainly linked to it.<br /><br />And since the get-go, Somerby has called this a "massively ginned-up controversy" and the product of a "scandal culture," the same one that brought us Monica Lewinsky, Kathleen Willey, and the War on Gore, all of whom have made frequent reappearances in his "discussion" of how off the wall this all is.<br /><br />And this "scandal culture" at one time also brought us Gov. Ultrasound, although with his multi-count indictment, he's gone down the ol' memory hole.<br /> <br />Let's not pretend here. Somerby is so deep in the hole of his own digging that this whole thing is much ado about nothing, that he probably prays every night for the miracle of a "real traffic study." <br /><br />It's the only way he will ever save face, even if it is with the four or five "fans" he has left.<br /><br />So let's not pretend that Somerby thinks this investigation is important. Or that it is worth the time MSNBC has spent on it, as he continues to spend every day on it as well.<br /><br />At least MSNBC will throw in another topic, such as the chemical spills in West Virginia and North Carolina, or the consequences of fracking, or the ongoing consequences of global warming, while Bob frantically searches for 15-year-old stories about Kathleen Willey to prove once again with geometric logic that Chris Matthews has hidden the key somewhere to the wardroom icebox.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-30620600361001925502014-02-19T15:14:17.156-05:002014-02-19T15:14:17.156-05:00Nothing to see here, folks:
http://www.nytimes.co...Nothing to see here, folks:<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/20/nyregion/port-authority-apologizes-for-bridge-lane-closings.html?ref=nyregion&_r=0Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-62274800998086369362014-02-19T15:06:05.199-05:002014-02-19T15:06:05.199-05:00Ironic phrase, like saying "Our old pal Rush ...Ironic phrase, like saying "Our old pal Rush Limbaugh is up to his old tricks." Somerby and Maher are different ages, so they couldn't possibly have gone to school at the same time. Maher lives in LA but Somerby lives on the East Coast. They may have shared a stage in a stand-up club at some point, and no doubt empathize with each other's career struggles. Maher is very rich, but don't expect him to donate $1 million to Hillary's campaign. He's saving his money for Rand Paul or Paul Ryan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-2186161952299528002014-02-19T15:02:56.757-05:002014-02-19T15:02:56.757-05:00Typo -- "if viewers...do not campaign" s...Typo -- "if viewers...do not campaign" should say "do not complain". Sorry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-54582061618629391372014-02-19T15:00:41.896-05:002014-02-19T15:00:41.896-05:00Lots of word twisting there. No one is complaining...Lots of word twisting there. No one is complaining about the investigation of Christie. Somerby is complaing about premature judgment, jumping to conclusions not yet supported by evidence. This is lynch mob mentality. No one is saying that Maddow ONLY talks about Christie. The complaint is that she talks about Christie when she has nothing to say and that she inflates that nothing by pretending it is a big deal. Today's example -- a lawyer looked at the redacted portions and concluded they were irrelevant to the investigation. That is a big bunch of nothing that Maddow hyped as if it were important. That seems like a fair criticism to me. It remains to be seen whether the accusations against Christie will amount to more than the kind of partisan attack represented by Fox's obsession with Benghazi. <br /><br />Doesn't the phrase clickbait refer to a link going somewhere else? Wouldn't Somerby have to have teasers on other webpages leading here to be using clickbait, or embedding links here going other places that he might receive revenue from? You pretty much have to come here to see what is being discussed and once you are here what would constitute clickbait? So, I think you probably mean some other word. Clickbait is what you find on Huffington Post -- 7 things cheerleaders can teach you about sex.<br /><br />MSNBC could be better than Fox, but it has to care about more than ratings and more than propagandizing viewers. People like Hayes and Maddow, who are smart and effective, need to care about more than their salaries -- they need to care about the values of progressives and make choices that are consistent with them. Some of Somerby's examples suggest they are not doing that. If viewers (including Somerby) do not campaign, what is the likelihood they will maximize their potential and make better use of the visible platform they have for doing good in the world? <br /><br />What good is accomplished by defending the poorer presentations offered by these MSNBC hosts? What do you hope to accomplish by getting Somerby to back off? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-29719824004633803932014-02-19T14:40:17.134-05:002014-02-19T14:40:17.134-05:00"Old pal" are Somerby's own words. I..."Old pal" are Somerby's own words. I find it interesting when Maher is his "old pal" when he agrees, but a cruel mysogynist when Somerby wanted to defend Rush against those vile, hypocritical MSNBC hosts.<br /><br />And I am certain their old friendship would end if Somerby ever finds out how much money Maher makes.<br /><br />To me, both Maher and Somerby are old comics who ran out of material a long time ago, so now they are trying to lecture "those damned kids" about what's really important in life.<br /><br />And they are both boring as hell in their "smarter and more experienced than thou" pseudo-intellectualism, which may run a mile wide, but an inch deep.<br /><br />Yes, MSNBC's ratings have soared for all shows since the Christie scandal began. Yes, they are going to milk that for all it is worth. But you know what? That doesn't mean it's not important.<br /><br />As one of Maher's commenters noted, when a guy is a leading candidate for president of the United States, it might be a good idea to find out now how he operates.<br /><br />By the way, this notion that MSNBC covers nothing but Christie is wrong whether it is said by Maher or Somerby. Last night, Rachel Maddow did a great piece on the environmental consequences of fracking, which wasn't too complimentary of the Obama administration, which also seems to contradict their other theme song -- MSNBC = Fox.<br /><br />But you know what's really hilarious? Use the "Incomparable Archives" and check out what Somerby has been milking for clickbait for the past two months.<br /><br />He's found his new George Zimmerman in Chris Christie, the latest "victim" of MSNBC.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-1474505197275074062014-02-19T14:29:18.509-05:002014-02-19T14:29:18.509-05:00Nasty troll. Go awayNasty troll. Go awayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-54756914790727623702014-02-19T14:15:24.547-05:002014-02-19T14:15:24.547-05:00Please quote any example of Somerby telling journa...Please quote any example of Somerby telling journalists to stop investigating what happened with the lane closures.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com