tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post6511293630629848309..comments2024-03-29T03:56:03.736-04:00Comments on the daily howler: The New York Times and the soul of white folk!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-34300741738801062252011-11-18T10:19:44.389-05:002011-11-18T10:19:44.389-05:00David in Cal....
Thanks for the homilies. It warm...David in Cal....<br /><br />Thanks for the homilies. It warmed the cockles of my heart and made me proud to be an American. <br /><br />My sole point was to ask whether our past history offered any possible insight into the general question/proposition you offered...namely that: "......simply enforcing the law can be characterized as racism". <br /><br />I would think history has settled that question. Perhaps we can move on to debate whether that dynamic is still at work today.monkberrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-85635096350883822382011-11-18T09:55:10.191-05:002011-11-18T09:55:10.191-05:00monkberry, if one wants to go back in America'...monkberry, if one wants to go back in America's race history, one can fault the US forever. However, taking into account all we've done since the founding of this nation, I am proud of where we are now.<br /><br />Yes our nation allowed slavery for 90 years. After the Civil War we allowed a system of Jim Crow that deprived African Americans of their rights.<br /><br />However, the United States also fought a war to end slavery, in which hundreds of thousands of people died. We had a Civil Rights Movement and civil rights legislation that successfully ended Jim Crow. We spent trillions of dollars on various welfare programs to help the underprivileged, particularly minorities. We established affirmative action laws to prevent the practice of racism. And, BTW we elected an African American President.David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-3910046279078210682011-11-18T06:11:20.562-05:002011-11-18T06:11:20.562-05:00"their"...sorry."their"...sorry.monkberrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-41348086133392398462011-11-18T06:10:44.297-05:002011-11-18T06:10:44.297-05:00@TRA.....why does this "border" on sland...@TRA.....why does this "border" on slander? Or, more succinctly, HOW does this "border" on slander? I am genuinely curious...where is the falsehood in the Howler's post?<br /><br />@ Dave in Cal....so as a general rule, you think that so long as one is 'enforcing' the law/a law, there actions cannot be deemed "racist"? A very interesting assertion given our nation's history.monkberrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-67894191040090016322011-11-17T18:40:07.491-05:002011-11-17T18:40:07.491-05:00Anonymous, I'm well aware of these Federal act...Anonymous, I'm well aware of these Federal actions. The Federal Government is also suing the State of Arizona over its immigration law. I deplore these suits. <br /><br />IMHO the Federal Government is suing to prevent these two states from helping to enforce existing immigration law. As I said, if people disagree with existing federal immigration law, then they should change it. But, I think existing law should be enforced as long as it's on the books.David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-60305075101785693462011-11-17T16:37:18.233-05:002011-11-17T16:37:18.233-05:00David in Cal said...
"... I think President O...David in Cal said...<br />"... I think President Obama and the State of Alabama deserve praise, not criticsm, for enforcing existing immigration laws, even if the New York Times doesn't like some of those laws."<br /><br />You seem to be blissfully unaware the feds have sued the state of Alabama over its new immigration law.<br /><br />The Justice Department is also investgating the state of Alabama for possible civil rights violations.<br /><br />Mr. Somerby's comparing Obama's efforts with Alabama's borders on slander and so does yours.The Real Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-81716738428799116562011-11-17T16:06:38.799-05:002011-11-17T16:06:38.799-05:00I'm appalled by the idea that simply enforcing...I'm appalled by the idea that simply enforcing the law can be characterized as racism. If the Times want to permit unlimited immigration without the requirement of US Government permission, then that's what they should be calling for. I think President Obama and the State of Alabama deserve praise, not criticsm, for enforcing existing immigration laws, even if the New York Times doesn't like some of those laws.David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-32024213101040463752011-11-17T15:07:11.000-05:002011-11-17T15:07:11.000-05:00Yeah, the Times should report the non-existent rac...Yeah, the Times should report the non-existent racial underpinnings of US immigration policy which is being revised/reprioritized under Obama, right?<br /><br />This is the kind of stuff I've come to expect from Breitbart's multiple sites.<br /><br />Seriously, we've got 24/7 coast-to-coast and border-to-border propaganda/lies being broadcast by the right wing in this country and the Times calling Alabama's law exactly what it is (if you can't deport them, scare them into moving to another state, who cares if you're losing legal citizens too) is the biggest problem you can come up with concerning the press?The Real Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com