tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post6749450702628760720..comments2024-03-18T21:40:50.861-04:00Comments on the daily howler: Supplemental: The second question from Terry Gross!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger139125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-21620134009667715632014-07-16T11:11:51.791-04:002014-07-16T11:11:51.791-04:00Yes, because idiot commenters, those who recognize...Yes, because idiot commenters, those who recognize the voters who were aware enough of Nader to have voted for him instead of Gore in New Hampshire, know those votes would have tipped the Electoral College to the guy who won the popular vote regardless of anything the press did. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-59425245242785665972014-07-14T09:25:23.832-04:002014-07-14T09:25:23.832-04:00The irrelevant Nader, of whose existence most vote...The irrelevant Nader, of whose existence most voters were next to entirely unaware, was "more important" to the election's outcome than the behavior of the mainstream press!<br /><br />The things you can learn from idiots in comments!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-27859392222333791802014-07-14T09:13:43.736-04:002014-07-14T09:13:43.736-04:00Naaaah. If Hillary entertains any notion of moving...Naaaah. If Hillary entertains any notion of moving into the White House she MUST campaign 24/7/365 for the next 28 months, lest she fade from public view and people forget.<br /><br />After all, the American people hunger for Campaign 2016 to begin, and it can't begin soon enough.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-80089284345160700982014-07-13T17:58:39.077-04:002014-07-13T17:58:39.077-04:00Isaif he preempted her concession. He gave his vic...Isaif he preempted her concession. He gave his victory speech before she gave her concession speech. Normally this is coordinated in timing but Obama did not let Clinton concede before making his victory speech. That showed disrespect and trampled the already raw feelings of the large number of Hillary supporters. It was petty and tone deaf and would have been an issue if Clinton were male. A very low class move among many in that campaign.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-33236775045797398412014-07-13T14:15:20.580-04:002014-07-13T14:15:20.580-04:00I am not hiding my inability "to take the Zst...I am not hiding my inability "to take the Zster on." I'm stating it upfront. I'm afraid that I'm just not that flexible. Most of the time I can't make it through his longer screeds, which seem to be mostly about how TDH is a hypocrite. Or something.<br /><br />Take his offering at 12:36A below. Terry Gross is quirky; Hilary Clinton is imperial. And I gave up there before I could find out how that is the fault of TDH, whom the Zster is apparently on a first name and capitalized basis.<br /><br />Life is too short. At least in this galaxy.deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-53613504619322264272014-07-13T11:19:07.165-04:002014-07-13T11:19:07.165-04:00Since I can't read his mind, I have no idea.
...Since I can't read his mind, I have no idea.<br /><br />But if I were considering taking on a task as physically, mentally and emotionally arduous as even running a campaign for president, let alone winning and becoming the president, I'd think the advice of taking a break in advance and while I could would be pretty sound.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-66596834381739617572014-07-13T08:47:51.287-04:002014-07-13T08:47:51.287-04:00And it is exactly that smarter-than-thou dismissiv...And it is exactly that smarter-than-thou dismissive attitude of "people" that is the most unattractive of many of Somerby's unattractive qualities.<br /><br />But I am sure in plays well with his pseudo-intellectual fan club as they also pretend to be oh, so much smarter than "people."<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-72709107838749662742014-07-13T08:40:45.062-04:002014-07-13T08:40:45.062-04:00" . . . that she was not allowed to concede (..." . . . that she was not allowed to concede (Obama preempted her announcement)"<br /><br />Where did this come from? Hillary's concession speech was nationally televised on June 7, 2008, and it included a ringing call for the party to united and elect Barack Obama.<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgi_kIYx_bY<br /><br />To paraphrase Daniel Patrick Moynihan, you have a right to your opinion, you don't have a right to make up your own facts.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-85607760500860620482014-07-13T08:24:03.220-04:002014-07-13T08:24:03.220-04:00"At least two times." And one of those w..."At least two times." And one of those was scratching his nose with the wrong finger.<br /><br />Look, politics is a bare-knuckled street fight. Lots of things get said or done that, taken in their worst possible light and strained hard enough, can be turned into anything. And a lot of things are said that people instantly regret, including Bill's famous and dismissive, "Well, Jesse Jackson won South Carolina, too."<br /><br />There were lots of things that happened in that historic 2008 campaign that I am certain stung both candidates deeply. And I am sure Hillary was hurt personally when some of her closest allies and friends began lining up to endorse Obama while the race was still on. These included the Kennedys -- including Ted and Caroline -- and even John Lewis very publicly switched sides.<br /><br />You know, there is a very short passage in her book in which Hillary describes the heart-to-heart they had about the sexism in Obama's campaign. The media tried to play that up into a lingering Hatfields and McCoys feud, but Hillary deftly shot that down.<br /><br />I'm certain the conversation was two-way. Hillary also apologized for the meanest, stupidest things said by her campaign in that tooth-and-nail fight. <br /><br />I happen to think that they are both grown-ups. If you carry grudges -- no matter how deserved -- your not going to accomplish anything, and you will only grow bitter and older.<br /><br />Bill practiced that very well while he was in office and after, and I have no reason to believe that Hillary and Obama are any less gracious.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-31516874607030894282014-07-13T08:02:05.425-04:002014-07-13T08:02:05.425-04:00How would he like it if the same was said of him?How would he like it if the same was said of him?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-57749987469504744792014-07-13T07:31:02.658-04:002014-07-13T07:31:02.658-04:00I'll put what Maher said slightly differently:...I'll put what Maher said slightly differently: <br /><br />Hillary has earned a nice, long vacation. She should take one. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-48097895357219124172014-07-13T00:32:09.614-04:002014-07-13T00:32:09.614-04:00KZ, don't ask anyone to throw good time after ...KZ, don't ask anyone to throw good time after bad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-83295469166188158242014-07-12T23:55:21.097-04:002014-07-12T23:55:21.097-04:00BTW, as much as I would like to see you in a knot,...BTW, as much as I would like to see you in a knot, I would rather you at least once attempt to take the Zster on rather than hide behind allegations to mask your not being up to the task.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-56965869697530583762014-07-12T23:53:52.740-04:002014-07-12T23:53:52.740-04:00If you are KZ then you must be quite flexible to b...If you are KZ then you must be quite flexible to be able to pucker up and smooch you own backside. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-75642045515502243902014-07-12T23:40:33.445-04:002014-07-12T23:40:33.445-04:00How to restore a broken relationship and marriage ...<br />How to restore a broken relationship and marriage ,Love Spells That Really Work Fast<br /><br />My name is Mark Davis, my family and i live in NY USA.It was after seven years i got to discover that my wife was unfaithful to me.I didn't know what was going on at first but as she got deep in the affair with her new lover, i felt that our marriage was on the rocks.I notice that she no longer light up when i touch her or kiss her in her neck and her chest cos she really liked it when i did that, she also usually get naked in front of me but when she started seeing that guy she stopped it.I remember asking her if i have done anything that makes her feel irritated when i am around her then she gives silly excuses that she has been feeling stressed up and that she need space for a while.I know when you are been asked for space its usually because there is something fishy is going on.I hired a private investigator to help find out what was going on.And in a week time he brought me prove that my wife that i have lived with for seven straight year is cheating on me with her high school lover.I had picture of her walking out a of a restaurant with him and many other photo of them kissing in public like she will never be caught by someone that knows she is my wife.I asked myself, even when we had a daughter together she could this to me.That same night i showed her the pictures that i got from my private investigator.She didn't look at it before saying, that she is seeing someone and she know that i just found out about it.Then she said that she is in love with him.At that moment, i didn't know if to kill myself or to kill her but the button line is that if i was going to kill anyone it was going to be me cos i was so much in love with her to even think of thinking to hurt her.As time when on she asked for a divorce and got it and even got custody of our daughter and i was all alone by myself.For a year i tried all i could to get her back with the help of my seven year old daughter.Even at that all effect was in vain, i used the help of her friend but turned out all bad.I know most people don't believe in spell casting but believe me this was my last option and the result i most say was impressive.And i know it difficult to believe but A SPELL CASTER Dr brave really made my life much better cos he gave me my family back.He didn't ask me to pay for what he did for me all i was to do, was to provide the materials for the spell and believe that he had the power to help me.Like he said, he was going to do something that will make her reset her love and affection for me just as it has always been.My wife told me she woke up and realized that she should have never left me that i am all she needs.To make thing clear, her life with her high school lover was great before Dr brave castled the spell they had no disagreement on anything.The guy said it himself that why she broke up with him is unexplainable.Only Dr.Brave can do such a thing contact him to solve your problem with his email:bravespellcaster@gmail.com ,or kindly visit he website http://bravespellcaster.yolasite.com .CONTACT HIM NOW FOR SOLUTION TO ALL YOUR PROBLEMS<br /><br />Helene Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02631829361031144541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-50164023772900082652014-07-12T21:24:58.471-04:002014-07-12T21:24:58.471-04:00AnonymousJuly 12, 2014 at 12:56 PM -- I didn't...AnonymousJuly 12, 2014 at 12:56 PM -- I didn't say there was anything nefarious about the legalization of gay sex. In fact, I think liberals deserve credit for this accomplishment.David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-67495267011577762962014-07-12T20:11:40.287-04:002014-07-12T20:11:40.287-04:00In other words, you got nothing.
You are who Bob ...In other words, you got nothing.<br /><br />You are who Bob refers to when he says "we, the people, are dumb."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-16814948554911222832014-07-12T19:44:22.406-04:002014-07-12T19:44:22.406-04:00Clinton didn't "struggle at length to sor...Clinton didn't "struggle at length to sort through her various talking-points on gay marriage" during the interview as Ball said in her sad and dumb report.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-11456693014933891652014-07-12T19:38:05.267-04:002014-07-12T19:38:05.267-04:00Posts here are way too long and too many supplemen...Posts here are way too long and too many supplementals. Just simply state your thoughts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-86377265469883136902014-07-12T18:16:26.746-04:002014-07-12T18:16:26.746-04:00In this case it could be any number of Anonymi. Ob...In this case it could be any number of Anonymi. Obviously there are those who can't bare the thought of their favorite media celebrities undergoing any critical scrutiny. Some are clearly here on a mission to right "the wrong" of that criticism. You can see it in the hurt, the anger, and the personal attacks. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-43663869650898481982014-07-12T18:14:41.492-04:002014-07-12T18:14:41.492-04:00Bill Maher, during the Impeachment, defending Clin...Bill Maher, during the Impeachment, defending Clinton admirably but not well, before jaunting off to "Shadow Conventions" with Ariana Huffington where W and Gore were declared "the same." Among idiots who have never confessed about what was done to Gore, he's right up there. <br /> So, I think he probably finds Hillary getting tweaked a little painful for reasons he does not fully understand. Many of us, however, have steeled ourselves, and are long past stupid attacks on The Clintons fatigue. These people will be in large part ignored, and Hill will glide to the White House, and the Dems will take back the Congress due to the large turnout. And all the way, Bob will be wringing his hands because Dems just aren't playing nice. Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-26815686725552673722014-07-12T17:50:21.269-04:002014-07-12T17:50:21.269-04:00I think politicians should campaign as much as the...I think politicians should campaign as much as they think they need to in order to be elected. Saying a politician should back off because she will have a better chance of being elected that way is very stupid. Maher may be sick of Hillary, but he never liked her to begin with. But if he thinks she or any female candidate will believe someone who says -- it doesn't do to let the voters see too much of you -- keep a low profile, that's the way to win honey -- he clearly thinks Hillary in particular and women in general are stupid. Bill Maher has a very ambivalent attitude toward women, understable given the kind of guy he is, but his advice is both wrong and not motivated by any desire to see her gain office. Your snark changes nothing about that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-52604297251535368142014-07-12T17:39:19.983-04:002014-07-12T17:39:19.983-04:00There were at least two times. Once when he referr...There were at least two times. Once when he referred to her being sensitive at certain times (a veiled reference to that time of month) and again when he said she was likeable enough. There was also the time where he was discussing her while scratching his nose with his third finger (the one used to flip people off), which is a very male sophomoric gesture. And don't forget 99 problems and a bitch ain't one of them. If you are expecting an explicitly sexist statement like the MRA makes, Obama was more subtle than that. Commenting on a woman's attractiveness or likeability underscores the expectation that women are supposed to be sociable. The rest came from Obama's surrogates -- the suggestion that when she teared up she was being manipulative, the poster of Hillary that Favreau and was drunkenly fondling, and so on. Many women also deeply resent that Hillary was not permitted a roll call of her delegates at the nominating convention, that she was not allowed to concede (Obama preempted her announcement) formally, and similar gestures of disrespect, because male candidates have never been treated that way in past elections. The repeated calls for her to stop her campaign while she was so close in the delegate count and was still winning major primaries strikes women as sexist because that has not been done with male candidates -- no one would expect a man to step aside like that before the nominating convention. These are direct attacks and they are gender-based because she was not treated like a serious, viable candidate. Obama's assumption that he had the whole thing wrapped up, long before he had any reason to believe that, is sexist from the beginning because he did not treat her candidacy as a serious one. That may have been an election strategy but it was still 100% sexist and it encouraged sexism in the media and among voters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-75525197412000041772014-07-12T17:25:56.109-04:002014-07-12T17:25:56.109-04:00Right. Hillary should back off a bit in 2014 is th...Right. Hillary should back off a bit in 2014 is the same as saying Obama shouldn't have campaigned at all in 2012.<br /><br />Makes perfect sense to a Bob fan, I suppose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-26296347782728102252014-07-12T17:14:50.694-04:002014-07-12T17:14:50.694-04:00The point of making campaign statements is to tell...The point of making campaign statements is to tell prospective voters what you will do when elected. If Hillary Clinton decides to carry out a different agenda when running in 2016 instead of 2008, her views will be a proposal to the public about what she plans to do in office, not an undying committment to hold certain personal views unwavering across time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com