tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post6786405926224585039..comments2024-03-29T06:44:19.414-04:00Comments on the daily howler: Supplemental: The stories we need and the facts we create!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger86125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-64338302969585794652014-08-26T17:09:00.418-04:002014-08-26T17:09:00.418-04:00I think the person posting both comments suggested...I think the person posting both comments suggested two, maybe three perhaps drunk white guys went into a restaurant late one Friday night knowing there might be trouble, got into some, then dealt with cops who had been called. Instead of leaving, they went over to the next door restaurant followed by black guys with whom they had the trouble. The black guys apparently had only one of the white guys in mind since he was taken outside and beaten. One other guy later recalled he was attacked too, but apparently he either forgot to tell the police at the time or the police forgot to put it in their press release. The other guy also seems to have forgotten the third person with them mentioned by the police. It is possible that the third person with the white victim was just imagined by the officers since the hour was late.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-84131435059093084472014-08-26T16:51:00.242-04:002014-08-26T16:51:00.242-04:00@ 9:49, just happened to catch your comment while ...@ 9:49, just happened to catch your comment while browsing. Yours was a very substantive comment. One of the best insights about trolls I have seen in quite a while.<br /><br />Do you know what happened to the spellcaster? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-26391647216071584622014-08-26T16:47:59.413-04:002014-08-26T16:47:59.413-04:00If you were around right after he moved you got co...If you were around right after he moved you got comments by BOB, debates between deadrat and David in Cal, and lots of payday loan spam. Now that the trolls have appeared the payday loan spammers have been replaced by the supernatural marital saviors. And BOB left in his own name. <br /><br />None of this is particularly important, that said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-13296667406739894192014-08-26T14:56:22.876-04:002014-08-26T14:56:22.876-04:00@12:39 If you were around before Bob moved to blog...@12:39 If you were around before Bob moved to blogspot, you'll know there was no facility to content on the old TDH . That didn't seem to do any harm...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-73535372632313768092014-08-26T11:58:14.264-04:002014-08-26T11:58:14.264-04:00His son was missing the night his son was killed. ...His son was missing the night his son was killed. Why didn't his father notice? Wasn't he supposed to be straightening the boy out after a third suspension from school caused his mother to abandon him?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-49638032436382954512014-08-26T11:54:19.380-04:002014-08-26T11:54:19.380-04:0012:05, you obviously didn't get the memo. You...12:05, you obviously didn't get the memo. You are to voluntarily die if attacked and, if you're a cop, other citizens are to be subject to attack by marauding violent felons instead of you acting to protect them, because slavery. <br /><br />Who to feel more sorry for, the black teenagers who end up dead because their single mothers taught them to be violent criminals because slavery, or the white teen-brained progressives who end up dead because their single mothers taught them to be stockholm syndromed victims because slavery.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-20193822482023008322014-08-26T11:09:13.649-04:002014-08-26T11:09:13.649-04:00David, the person who posted the other incident wa...David, the person who posted the other incident was trying to say that white people commit hate crimes too, not confusing the two incidents.<br /><br />It was a stupid response to your point. Showing that a dog can bite a man is not a cogent response to a "man bites dog" story. It is the norm (supposedly). So stories about white people doing racist things are the norm, not a contrary example, as yours was, showing racism directed toward two white men. Your story will not receive national attention, partly because it doesn't seem like a huge problem of institutionalized racism that needs to be dealt with. It seems like a one-off, easily explained by the heightened racial tensions generated by the Brown shooting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-63183102688521742242014-08-26T11:05:08.473-04:002014-08-26T11:05:08.473-04:00Stop talking to yourself, KZ.Stop talking to yourself, KZ.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-7244055267937714002014-08-26T10:59:46.859-04:002014-08-26T10:59:46.859-04:00Anon 10:26 - You're discussing an attack on s...Anon 10:26 - You're discussing an attack on someone named Craig Wilson. I linked to an attack on Ralph Weems IV and David Knighten. My link said, <br /><i>[Weems] said a man waved him over outside the restaurant and told him politely that people were upset by the killing of 18-year-old Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, and it wasn't a safe place for whites.</i> <br /><br />The link goes on to say that a large group of black people attacked Weems and Knighten.<br /><br /><i>...they apparently had been followed by more than 20 people....<br /><br />Knighten, who said he had served with the Air Force in Afghanistan, said he came out of the restroom to find Weems surrounded. "I was trying to defuse the situation," he said....<br /><br />Knighten said some people blocked him from leaving with Weems. When he got out, he said, Weems was down and people were kicking him. Knighten said others attacked him, adding "I do remember racial slurs being yelled from the crowd."</i><br /><br />Now, suppose that after one of those 448 black on white murders, a crowd of 20 white people had chosen a random black person, followed him, surrounded him and beat him up. That would be big national news, and rightly so.<br />David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-2151870602139532902014-08-26T10:58:48.344-04:002014-08-26T10:58:48.344-04:00Yes, let us indeed ponder how Boone, like Mandela ...Yes, let us indeed ponder how Boone, like Mandela and King before him, reached across the Great Divide to record his first Billboard-charting album in 35 years.<br /><br />If only we had more like him, we would never had had the War on Gore.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-83060797027908871972014-08-26T10:56:42.288-04:002014-08-26T10:56:42.288-04:00"I agree with others here that people who com..."I agree with others here that people who complain the body being out in the street for 4 hours are looking for something to complain about."<br /><br />Just a thought here. I'd speculate, David, that if there was a dead body out in front of your home for four hours on a Saturday afternoon, you might complain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-3815924628036032812014-08-26T10:46:32.749-04:002014-08-26T10:46:32.749-04:00@ 9:45 "The Washington Post. Google Jennings ...@ 9:45 "The Washington Post. Google Jennings and Corruption and it will come right up."<br /><br />From the Washington Post:<br /><br />"After going through the police academy, Wilson landed a job in 2009 as a rookie officer in Jennings, a small, struggling city of 14,000 where 89 percent of the residents were African American and poverty rates were high. At the time, the 45-employee police unit had one or two black members on the force, said Allan Stichnote, a white Jennings City Council member.<br /> <br />Racial tension was endemic in Jennings, said Rodney Epps, an African American city council member.<br /> <br />“You’re dealing with white cops, and they don’t know how to address black people,” Epps said. “The straw that broke the camel’s back, an officer shot at a female. She was stopped for a traffic violation. She had a child in the back [of the] car and was probably worried about getting locked up. And this officer chased her down Highway 70, past city limits, and took a shot at her. Just ridiculous.<br /><br />Police faced a series of lawsuits for using unnecessary force, Stichnote said. .....<br /><br />The Jennings department also had a corruption problem. A joint federal and local investigation discovered that a lieutenant had been accepting federal funds for drunken-driving checks that never happened.<br /> <br />All the problems became too much for the city council to bear, and in March 2011 the council voted 6-to-1 to shut down the department and hire St. Louis County to run its police services..."<br /><br />Corruption and racism. Why do you insist on ignoring one of the two?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-11157653390039875682014-08-26T10:09:26.016-04:002014-08-26T10:09:26.016-04:00David in Cal, regarding your post at 1:50 AM, you ...David in Cal, regarding your post at 1:50 AM, you wrote:<br /><br />" I despise people who look for trouble in this way and those in the media who help them do so, <br /><br />This horrendous crime is the fruit produced by these hate-mongers." <br /><br /><br />Let's quote from the police press release about this incident, which occurred in the wee hours of a Friday night/Saturday morning in West Point, Mississippi, population 11,000 give or take.<br /><br />"All parties were asked to leave the Waffle House at about 1:00am. Then at 2:00am E911 dispatched officers to the Huddle House. It’s not clear whether or not all of the parties were involved in both incidents. Witnesses on the scene were interviewed but were unable to give any details leading to the identity of the aggressors. The victim was accompanied by at least two other individuals who gave statements about the assault.<br /> <br />The witnesses described the aggressors as a group of black males but couldn’t provide any other information. The victim of the assault is white."<br /><br />So lets play blog commentator.<br /><br />Armed white guys go into a place late at night after being warned there are a bunch of angry black people there. Argument ensues of a nature that police are called.<br />White guys go into the place next door. Only one of the white guys is beat up. Other white guys unable to give police any information leading to the identity of the black guys who beat up their buddy. Except their color.<br /><br />You are a piece of work, to use a Bob phrase.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-67379990249726781122014-08-26T09:51:17.068-04:002014-08-26T09:51:17.068-04:00I think this blog would develop a robust discussio...I think this blog would develop a robust discussion on topics that are important, including education, political discourse, the role of media in politics, and occasionally philosophy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-58131300077151184082014-08-26T09:49:59.218-04:002014-08-26T09:49:59.218-04:00Somehow trolls are always the first to comment on ...Somehow trolls are always the first to comment on a post. How does that happen? I think they are the ones with the software alerting them to a new post. I think they have that software because it is their job to post here and they get paid by the comment. The rest of us only browse by when we have a spare moment, often long after the comments have been the scene of a troll-fest, smothering any chance at substantive discussion. So, no, the trolls haven't started anything worth reading and when someone does say something about the content of Somerby's posts, it is immediately drowned in childish, churlish, and addled chatter. But I'm glad to know someone is making a living in today's economy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-37091513960741465302014-08-26T09:45:39.853-04:002014-08-26T09:45:39.853-04:00@12:46 -- The Washington Post. Google Jennings and...@12:46 -- The Washington Post. Google Jennings and Corruption and it will come right up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-5191207978646966862014-08-26T09:43:50.406-04:002014-08-26T09:43:50.406-04:00Before the week is done we're going to talk ab...Before the week is done we're going to talk about Metal.<br /><br />Way back when, Pat Boone shocked the world with his famous album, In a Metal Mood: No More Mr. Nice Guy. We’ve thought of Boone in the last day as we’ve reviewed the modern sounds in blogging heard in yesterday's posts.<br /><br />Why do young people hate old people covering bad rock music?<br />ZKoDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-28011685693942051402014-08-26T08:25:29.389-04:002014-08-26T08:25:29.389-04:00Anon -- your stats show that black murder whites 2...Anon -- your stats show that black murder whites 2.3 times as often as the reverse, and that the total number of interracial murders isn't that large. I had thought the differential was greater. Thanks for the correction.David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-7832903524425162362014-08-26T07:34:49.234-04:002014-08-26T07:34:49.234-04:00"Much more often," you unfunny clown? A..."Much more often," you unfunny clown? According to the most recent stats I have, 448 white people were murdered by blacks in 2011, vs 193 the other way around. 250 extra deaths? And that should make us "pray" we don't have a race war? Really, what a fucking buffoonish douchebag. Your fleshy white ass is >10x likely to die from food poisoning (oh please, please, leave some chicken out for a few hours -- preferably raw -- and then chomp down on it. The world would be a far better place if you did) than be murdered by a Scary Black Man. But let's bow our heads down and praaaay with David in Clowny, Bob's most faithful and well-deserved commentor, that whites don't stop using cops to kill black people (an average of over 100 times a year), and start doing it directly themselves instead. Oh, the tragedy!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-9935280447087614512014-08-26T01:14:02.872-04:002014-08-26T01:14:02.872-04:00http://crooksandliars.com/2014/08/mississippi-waff...http://crooksandliars.com/2014/08/mississippi-waffle-house-mystery-why-didAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-88620547500111407832014-08-26T00:47:59.226-04:002014-08-26T00:47:59.226-04:00And under Missourri law, Michael Brown had every r...And under Missourri law, Michael Brown had every right to buy himself one of them Glocks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-48569121640604280942014-08-26T00:46:48.163-04:002014-08-26T00:46:48.163-04:00If you've got a source that says the Jennings ...If you've got a source that says the Jennings PD was disbanded because of financial corruption, I will be glad to read it.<br /><br />But pardon me if I don't hold my breath waiting.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-12520539772783195162014-08-26T00:45:43.803-04:002014-08-26T00:45:43.803-04:00But does he renounce Satan?But does he renounce Satan?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-3731003757640872722014-08-26T00:45:14.290-04:002014-08-26T00:45:14.290-04:00@12:35, why would a suburban police department be ...@12:35, why would a suburban police department be well trained in riot control? Bernard Parks said part of the problem was too many different units without clear leadership. That doesn't mean people were stupid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-73950080672109798932014-08-26T00:44:45.775-04:002014-08-26T00:44:45.775-04:00They started the discussion and then end up hijack...They started the discussion and then end up hijacking it. Damn trolls.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com