tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post6849768954164598383..comments2024-03-28T21:42:44.372-04:00Comments on the daily howler: Starting tomorrow: TRIAL AND TOWN!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-30125515548264614472021-04-30T19:30:03.441-04:002021-04-30T19:30:03.441-04:00Five weeks ago my boyfriend broke up with me. It a...Five weeks ago my boyfriend broke up with me. It all started when i went to summer camp i was trying to contact him but it was not going through. So when I came back from camp I saw him with a young lady kissing in his bed room, I was frustrated and it gave me a sleepless night. I thought he will come back to apologies but he didn't come for almost three week i was really hurt but i thank Dr.Azuka for all he did i met Dr.Azuka during my search at the internet i decided to contact him on his email dr.azukasolutionhome@gmail.com he brought my boyfriend back to me just within 48 hours i am really happy. What’s app contact : +44 7520 636249Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15412911890439251035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-13705538162016091532021-04-24T14:47:17.508-04:002021-04-24T14:47:17.508-04:00I am FRED and i want quickly recommend DR NCUBE fo...I am FRED and i want quickly recommend DR NCUBE for a Job well done by<br />curing me from the genital herpes disease that have be giving me sleepless night. if you want to contact him, Simply do that via email drncube03@gmail.com or <br />call/whatsapp +2348155227532<br />he also have #herbs for<br />#hiv/aids<br />#cancerdisease <br />#fibroid <br />#diabetes<br />He does all types of spell casting including love spell, marriage spell, promotion spell and fortune telling.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04726501503176444034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-50070345782790423862021-04-05T23:24:39.971-04:002021-04-05T23:24:39.971-04:00Obviously, if the prosecution makes a pursvasive c...Obviously, if the prosecution makes a pursvasive case, the defense better be ready to prove something. Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-68211039858550408412021-04-05T22:52:24.904-04:002021-04-05T22:52:24.904-04:00This abstract from an article only gives an indire...This abstract from an article only gives an indirect answer to your question, but it's relevant to race and policing: <br /><br />"The perception of little officer accountability contributes to widespread distrust of law enforcement in communities of color. This project investigates how race and segregation shape the outcomes of allegations made against the Chicago Police Department (CPD) between 2011 and 2014. We find that complaints by black and Latino citizens and against white officers are less likely to be sustained. "<br /><br />https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/cico.12388Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-43219705306827361992021-04-05T18:55:53.954-04:002021-04-05T18:55:53.954-04:00Bob,
Your blatant and obvious bigotry and racism ...Bob, <br />Your blatant and obvious bigotry and racism are plain to see.<br />Your (make believe) analysts similarly. <br />And many of your commentators love you for those reasons. <br />You could be as nuts as Trump!<br />As the father of a daughter and two sons (all black) and three grandsons (all black); <br />If you or your acolytes hurt them I will try to find you and kill you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-39154564575318364052021-04-05T18:33:08.781-04:002021-04-05T18:33:08.781-04:00I mean, Somerby doesn't defend all pedophiles ...I mean, Somerby doesn't defend all pedophiles . Only those like Moore and Gaetz, who are hard core Trumptards like himself. Centristnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-86151291498472918862021-04-05T18:31:50.658-04:002021-04-05T18:31:50.658-04:00Somerby doesn't all pedophiles and killers. He...Somerby doesn't all pedophiles and killers. He only defends those who are Trumptards like himself. Centristnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-47978018675507240922021-04-05T18:30:49.394-04:002021-04-05T18:30:49.394-04:00'Are you saying that the normal rules of due p...'Are you saying that the normal rules of due process shouldn't apply to Chauvin'<br /><br />They absolutely should. But being the Trumptard that he is, Somerby claims that press comments are somehoe equivalent to the lack of due process. Somerby is always gravely concerned that the likes of DJT, Ron Johnson, Nunes, Gaetz, Brock Turner, Zimmerman are being criticized in the press, but his concern never stretches to those being attacked by Somerby's idol Carlson. Somerby is a malevolent Trumptard. Centristnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-70093619175569817992021-04-05T15:37:12.498-04:002021-04-05T15:37:12.498-04:00From a legal standpoint, police officers are not &...From a legal standpoint, police officers are not "brave first responders" so no one should ever refer to them in that way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-60722784371934806972021-04-05T14:07:14.442-04:002021-04-05T14:07:14.442-04:00“it doesn't work well all the time, and can be...“it doesn't work well all the time, and can be abused.”<br /><br />AC, Isn’t that the point that skeptonomist is making? That it can be abused, but that the agents engaged in those abuses are seldom convicted, let alone charged? Can you not believe in due process as well the idea that police abuses may be only rarely adjudicated because of the bias that exists precisely because they are powerful agents of the State?mhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08937133532381705347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-50907125518465437502021-04-05T13:57:42.795-04:002021-04-05T13:57:42.795-04:00mh - are you saying that the normal rules of due p...mh - are you saying that the normal rules of due process shouldn't apply to Chauvin? The discussion on most things in the press, and people in general is shallow - understandably in a way because of how complex everything is. But, the police are the agents of the State, the sovereign, and have special status as far as the use of force to enforce the law. Unfortunately, it doesn't work well all the time, and can be abused. You may not know it, but blacks as well as white defendants get the benefit of the various constitutional protections available, and generally get a fair trial. But that prosecutors might be reluctant to prosecute cops, or that juries are deferential to them, does not mean in every instance, or even in any substantial number of instances, that an injustice has been done. Chauvin has defenses - the crime seems more like manslaughter to me (but the jury will decide). One element of unfairness as far as Chauvin is concerned, is that there is an open threat that if Chauvin is found not guilty, or even if convicted of only a lesser charge than murder, there will be rioting, looting, buildings burned, property destroyed, and quite possible, more deaths. Almost a form of extortion - a defendant might be concerned that this type of thing could improperly influence a jury. AC/MAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79337493260946195202021-04-05T13:50:04.766-04:002021-04-05T13:50:04.766-04:00Why not, AC? If skeptonomist’s ratio turns out to ...Why not, AC? If skeptonomist’s ratio turns out to be correct, would that not suggest an issue of some sort, possibly pro-police bias? Wouldn’t it be worth examining at least?mhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08937133532381705347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-78619534642838538662021-04-05T13:42:40.860-04:002021-04-05T13:42:40.860-04:00Not a relevant comparisonNot a relevant comparisonAC/MAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-78418340742550597922021-04-05T13:23:45.841-04:002021-04-05T13:23:45.841-04:00Floyd is dead. He didn’t get to protest his innoce...Floyd is dead. He didn’t get to protest his innocence in court. mhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08937133532381705347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-17252787513993587162021-04-05T13:03:31.770-04:002021-04-05T13:03:31.770-04:00And a racist lesbian hater.And a racist lesbian hater.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-60232292725210637292021-04-05T12:59:35.628-04:002021-04-05T12:59:35.628-04:00Floyd would get the same benefit.
Or should we dr...Floyd would get the same benefit.<br /><br />Or should we drop that silly innocent until proven guilty stuff?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-16897090054256796332021-04-05T12:20:44.837-04:002021-04-05T12:20:44.837-04:00"Is someone accused of a crime "presumed..."Is someone accused of a crime "presumed innocent" within our legal system? "<br /><br />Somerby is being a buffoon. The press is not part of our "legal system" and they can say whatever they want about an ongoing trial. <br /><br />Member of a jury have different obligations than the general public. We can talk with each other and form opinions all we want, and we are not restricted to only the information presented in court to a jury, nor are we restricted by judge's instructions. This provides a check and balance on our legal system. We verdicts are improper, the public can protest or recall judges.<br /><br />We play a different role than the one Somerby wishes to foist upon us, in his buffoonery (and his desire to defend even the worst cops).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-19186610948726107162021-04-05T11:59:32.335-04:002021-04-05T11:59:32.335-04:00“Sanders: I Have ‘No Problem’ Going To WV To Push ...“Sanders: I Have ‘No Problem’ Going To WV To Push Manchin Toward Progressive Goals”<br />https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/sanders-i-have-no-problem-going-to-wv-to-push-manchin-toward-progressive-goals<br /><br />Will Somerby write a post railing at Sanders the way he did when Maddow spoke about Manchin?mhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08937133532381705347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-8643287244888655462021-04-05T11:24:36.234-04:002021-04-05T11:24:36.234-04:00‘Is someone accused of a crime "presumed inno...‘Is someone accused of a crime "presumed innocent" within our legal system?’<br /><br />Who wants to argue against due process? Those ‘"hangin' columnists" of Our Town, apparently. But...<br /><br />Was George Floyd presumed innocent by those cops and was he given his day in court? <br /><br />There is or has been a built-in deference towards the police in our society, reflected by juries and latching onto what skeptonomist said: cops aren’t often convicted and seldom even charged. There is a willingness to give very broad latitude to cops and what constitutes appropriate behavior in the line of duty. <br /><br />Perhaps this case, with so much video evidence, will turn out differently. <br /><br />At any rate, this willingness to be deferential to cops is perfectly summed up by something Somerby said:<br /><br />“A lot of people get shot and killed by police officers in the U.S. We'll repeat the points we feel we should make every day:<br /><br />As far as we know, no police misconduct is involved in the bulk of such cases.”<br />http://dailyhowler.blogspot.com/2020/09/the-disappeared-and-dead-why-was.htmlmhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08937133532381705347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-14610799666188385252021-04-05T11:21:28.251-04:002021-04-05T11:21:28.251-04:00O.J. Simpson is a kidnapper, not a murderer.O.J. Simpson is a kidnapper, not a murderer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-40292895896852602202021-04-05T10:12:20.620-04:002021-04-05T10:12:20.620-04:00What is the actual ratio of police officers convic...What is the actual ratio of police officers convicted to those who have been the subject of complaints or allegations? Is it more than 1:10?skeptonomisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14867814619333835249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-82888202600327533762021-04-05T10:07:46.563-04:002021-04-05T10:07:46.563-04:00"Sidner actually cited some basic principles ..."Sidner actually cited some basic principles of the American legal system—of "Americanism" itself."<br /><br />But of course, dear Bob. <br /><br />Our young analysts say it's because with your zombie cult in power, liberal establishment doesn't need any more riots. <br /><br />And riots seem likely if officer Chauvin is acquitted of most (or all!) charges. Tsk, how unfortunate. Alas, your zombie administration would not benefit from it, at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com