tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post6923788532393092527..comments2024-03-28T11:57:02.219-04:00Comments on the daily howler: CONCERNING THE 48,000: The rat-infested schools of the living!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-13559813452544808572018-01-23T18:57:04.326-05:002018-01-23T18:57:04.326-05:00Who's Steve Sueng? I'm confused.
LeroyWho's Steve Sueng? I'm confused.<br /><br />LeroyLeroyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02021120389394278239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-58540601753607392862018-01-14T10:38:58.733-05:002018-01-14T10:38:58.733-05:00Cmike, I just went back to the video you posted of...Cmike, I just went back to the video you posted of Chomsky, and noticed you occupy the clip's byline! Far out, man. Now I have a new site to peruse. Really enjoy your postings of Chomsky, and you've created clips of a lot of other interesting thinkers and authors. And now I understand the meaning of your posting moniker. Thanks again.<br /><br />LeroyLeroyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02021120389394278239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79557004156589350172018-01-14T10:32:35.812-05:002018-01-14T10:32:35.812-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Leroyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02021120389394278239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-29288844263735455632018-01-13T12:41:09.971-05:002018-01-13T12:41:09.971-05:00Cmike –
I’ve never been a fan of the New Year res...Cmike –<br /><br />I’ve never been a fan of the New Year resolution thing. Resolutions (commitments) are much better done on the fly. Real resolutions, which in my view have a moral dimension, are born of necessity. Having said that, #23 on Nathan’s list is perhaps something to embrace, morality be damned.<br /><br />Also #10. I’ve never slurred Bob until recently, and I cheapened myself. I’ve been reading him almost since the beginning. Like you, I’ve learned a lot from Bob over the years, and gotten much enjoyment from his humor and analytical style. The meister helps me out here, in that I undoubtedly misunderstood Bob’s intent. Which goes to show that not just TV can mislead the thoughtless. The anon I responded to made good points, but missed the forest for the trees, as did I in this instance.<br /><br />I shared the Current Affairs piece because I thought it was hilarious, a tongue-in-cheek list written by a writer, for writers. Whether Bob reads the comments or not, it was something I thought he’d enjoy, and if he didn’t, others might. I don’t remember how I found that site, it may even have been shared here. So I’m going to steal numbers one and two from the list, because I enjoy writing. I also like numbers 5, 8, 11, 16, 18, ah hell, it’s all good. The last two in particular. The very last, shades of Paul Kurtz, whom I miss.<br /><br />My resolution, if I were to make one, is as it’s always been. To become a better person. This site, and the commenters I share it with, help me along that path.<br /><br />Btw, whatever happened to his book? I aim to find out.<br /><br />Leroy<br />Leroyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02021120389394278239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-51027436073212982072018-01-13T10:20:26.630-05:002018-01-13T10:20:26.630-05:00I believe the homey was a reference to Homey D Clo...I believe the homey was a reference to Homey D Clown, from the TV show, “In Living Color”, not a slur on the professor.<br />Homey don’t play da clown, just because his parole officer makes him dress like one.gravymeisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16075831177588700301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-28073395367834490072018-01-13T02:18:23.036-05:002018-01-13T02:18:23.036-05:00Do you have a list of your own for '18 to shar...Do you have a list of your own for '18 to share, Leroy?<br /><br />As for Somerby, I'll use your remarks for myself, "What is he doing...? A lot more than I am, that’s a surety."<br /><br />Back in the late nineties when Somerby launched the Howler I think there was a lot of merit in the notion that blogs would be a medium that could make a difference. To that end Somerby's been very disciplined in maintaining a steady, actually a remarkable stream of output. I, myself, have learned a lot from Somerby over the years, though our host, no doubt, has been hoping to educate people who, unlike myself, have some influence over policy. In what I always knew would be a naive expectation, I think Somerby thought if the quality of his work warranted it- and do think it has -some pockets of the mainstream public affairs media would start taking some of their cues from his work. <br /><br />Long story short, it turns out that television is a medium that just overpowers print in setting the national agenda- its on air talent doesn't have to take their cues from anyone other than ownership, in fact they dare not.CMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481861530761114492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-29936593926171504052018-01-13T02:07:27.267-05:002018-01-13T02:07:27.267-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.CMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481861530761114492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-18765384862314788802018-01-12T23:49:21.006-05:002018-01-12T23:49:21.006-05:00And then, he might be due to read this.
LINK
Tha...And then, he might be due to read this.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/01/my-resolutions-2018-2" rel="nofollow">LINK</a><br /><br />Thanks, CmikeLeroyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02021120389394278239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-51160006095770025052018-01-12T23:35:19.849-05:002018-01-12T23:35:19.849-05:00Last night, after reading what I wrote, I realized...Last night, after reading what I wrote, I realized that Bob has no concern with breaching taboos. Sort of what comedians are expected to do.<br /><br />The first quote from Chomsky speaks to Bob’s point. The second seems an indictment against Bob, because he’s just not doing enough.<br /><br />What is he doing besides hosting this blog? A lot more than I am, that’s a surety. He must be doing something right when he focuses on student achievement, despite his stilted approach.<br /><br />And when commenters post Chomsky, I kind of feel that I’m in a good place. Makes you think a bit.<br /><br />Leroy<br /><br /><br />Leroyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02021120389394278239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-66112687019053495452018-01-12T21:59:11.426-05:002018-01-12T21:59:11.426-05:00"Oh dear. I'm afraid..."
Of the trut..."Oh dear. I'm afraid..."<br />Of the truth. <br /><br />We have the same problem with half of the United States.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-12613842879849371412018-01-12T20:33:19.652-05:002018-01-12T20:33:19.652-05:00Oh dear. Nice try, comrade.Oh dear. Nice try, comrade.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-74640559253295939322018-01-12T16:51:03.807-05:002018-01-12T16:51:03.807-05:00Oh dear. I'm afraid both of you have failed th...Oh dear. I'm afraid both of you have failed the Turing test again. Please contact tech support in Pune and ask to perform diagnostics. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-37415995248146095492018-01-12T14:37:44.063-05:002018-01-12T14:37:44.063-05:00Per usual, a complete deflection, Mao. Answer to c...Per usual, a complete deflection, Mao. Answer to cause of global crisis issue you raise supplied by anon 12:31.E. Zombyist Jr. f/k/a AC/MAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-8345014565986348842018-01-12T12:31:59.927-05:002018-01-12T12:31:59.927-05:00I did. It was caused by fraud on the part of bank...I did. It was caused by fraud on the part of bankers and Wall Street financier firms. <br />You know the bankers and Wall Street financial firms, Mao. They're the "Establishment" our President just signed a huge tax break for.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-49194568448226199972018-01-12T11:36:38.905-05:002018-01-12T11:36:38.905-05:00You might want to read something about the global ...You might want to read something about the global crisis of 2008-2009 and governments' efforts to survive it. To acquire a more nuanced view, y'know. <br /><br />Though of course it's hardly relevant to the discussion of the poor state of public schools in Detroit today. But of course, judging by your lib-zombie commenting style, you don't really care. Or is there a serious point you're trying to make?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-25776911602031277492018-01-12T11:17:44.722-05:002018-01-12T11:17:44.722-05:00Yeah Mao, wasn't it Obama who bailed out the a...Yeah Mao, wasn't it Obama who bailed out the auto companies, and has been attacked for that by your Tea Party guys? AC/MAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-71287760490744224782018-01-12T11:12:29.923-05:002018-01-12T11:12:29.923-05:001100 word article and, other than repeating that i...1100 word article and, other than repeating that it needs to improve to attract students from more affluent households, this was the sum total of the discussion of the state of academics at Spain Elementary-Middle School and what to do about it:<br /><br />[QUOTE] <i>Spain is one of three district schools that is now offering Montessori classes to kids in preschool and kindergarten—a program that is one of the district’s key initiatives to attract middle-class families.<br /><br />In addition to rebuilding the performing-arts programs, Cannon says he created new computer labs and is adding resources to help bring up test scores, which have been low in recent years. In most grades, fewer than 5 percent of the school’s students tested proficient in math on the state’s M-STEP exam last year.</i> [END QUOTE]CMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481861530761114492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-1293298705207093292018-01-12T08:03:14.679-05:002018-01-12T08:03:14.679-05:00I graduated from DPS.... class of 1970. When I che...I graduated from DPS.... class of 1970. When I checked on the status of Spain Elementary-Middle.... one of the first posts is from the Atlantic....also coverage by Detroit News....school back up and running looks pretty good. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-31214746810539286592018-01-12T07:52:07.751-05:002018-01-12T07:52:07.751-05:00https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016...https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/09/reinvesting-in-detroits-public-schools/502022/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-74106531412322436782018-01-12T05:09:13.399-05:002018-01-12T05:09:13.399-05:00I thought Bob's idiotic post 6 months back du...I thought Bob's idiotic post 6 months back during the 4th of July criticising the NYTimes for having an article on the best hot dog in town was idiotic enough. <br /><br />Now he criticizes Professor Miles (a historian) for focusing on history. Perhaps Miles should demonstrate her liberal credentials by doing what Bob does<br /><br />1) Defend Roy Moore valiantly<br />2) Defend Donald Trump<br />3) Attack Rachael Maddow<br />4) Attack Mika Brez.<br />5) Attack the NYTimes<br />6) Attack liberals<br /><br />In short, act like a true Trumptard to demonstrate one's liberal creds. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-44391351094207006032018-01-12T02:02:50.581-05:002018-01-12T02:02:50.581-05:00Noam Chomsky responding in 1988 to a challenge of ...<i>Noam Chomsky responding in 1988 to a challenge of his ethics by then Canadian journalist David Frum:</i><br /><br />"The principal of morality that I think we should follow is not the one you stated (i.e. that all wrongs should be of equal concern to an individual). It's a very simple ethical point, you're responsible for the predictable consequences of your actions, you're not responsible for the predictable consequences of somebody else's actions.<br /><br />The most important thing for me and for you is to think about the consequences of your [own] actions, what can you affect. Those are the one's you ought to be primarily concerned about. Of course every corpse [of a victim] is a corpse [that has been wronged] but there are some [stemming from circumstances] you can affect, there are others you can't do much about.<br /><br />I can be worried about things that happened in the eighteenth century but I can't do much about them."<br /><br /><i>Noam Chomsky in a June, 2003 appearance on CSPAN:</i><br /><br />"Suppose you're living under a dictatorship and the dictators carry out some horrendous act, say you're living in Stalinist Russia and Stalin carries out horrible crimes, are the people of Russia responsible for those crimes? Well, only to a very limited extent because living under [a] brutal harsh terrorist regime there isn't much they can do about it. There's something they could do and to the extent there's something you could do you're responsible for what happens.<br /><br />Suppose you're living in a free democratic society with lots of privilege, enormous, incomprable freeedoms and the government carries out violent brutal acts. Are you responsible for it? Yeah, a lot more responsible because there's a lot you can do about it. And, therefore, the cost- if you're responsible, if you share responsibility in criminal acts you are liable for the consequences."<br /><br />Later Chomsky explains what can be done <a href="https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4706414/chomsky-activism" rel="nofollow">LINK</a>.CMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481861530761114492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-45378881031612917702018-01-11T22:24:40.916-05:002018-01-11T22:24:40.916-05:00Bob,
You couldn't give a shit about black youn...Bob,<br />You couldn't give a shit about black youngsters. Except to pretend. <br />Admit it and get on with your life. <br />How many of those you taught are dead or imprisoned? <br />It's the liberals fault for holding those in power responsible. <br />Why aren't liberals more like MLK, Ghandi and Mandela? Dead or in prison. <br />Enjoy yourself. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-61796329334768778652018-01-11T22:09:09.711-05:002018-01-11T22:09:09.711-05:00I'd prefer more posts about WHY the corporate-...I'd prefer more posts about WHY the corporate-owned, Right-wing media doesn't allow smart liberals to report news.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-66811037042875684182018-01-11T20:12:31.290-05:002018-01-11T20:12:31.290-05:00I've been trying to defend Bob on this series,...I've been trying to defend Bob on this series, but you make excellent points. His last sentence is nearly inscrutable, but may be talking about himself.<br /><br />Assholery indeed.<br /><br />LeroyLeroyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02021120389394278239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-44136807401198937852018-01-11T19:30:15.576-05:002018-01-11T19:30:15.576-05:00"automobile industry comes back"
All yo..."automobile industry comes back"<br /><br />All you got to do is ask, and Obama will have taken care of it (despite Republicans) years ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com