tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post7296872833566886881..comments2024-03-28T04:12:17.506-04:00Comments on the daily howler: Supplemental: NBC News loves the children of fame!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-86837408748006624432014-07-25T13:07:59.921-04:002014-07-25T13:07:59.921-04:00Thanks Greg. Great performances for sure, but for...Thanks Greg. Great performances for sure, but for contemproary work I would rate it slightly below Ali Mc Graw for comedy (Goodbye Columbus) and drama (Love Story where she played the Tipper Gore character).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-13449578128926970082014-07-24T21:58:54.662-04:002014-07-24T21:58:54.662-04:00Well, She was great in "Rosemary's Baby&q...Well, She was great in "Rosemary's Baby", and fantastic in "Broadway Danny Rose." Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-65520157873777805792014-07-24T14:08:40.736-04:002014-07-24T14:08:40.736-04:00Anyone looking for some magical thinking? It is t...Anyone looking for some magical thinking? It is that Hillary Clinton in 2000 would even have been elected dogcatcher in NY state if she had not been married to Bill Clinton.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-21144703763316836542014-07-24T13:50:16.672-04:002014-07-24T13:50:16.672-04:00There are some candidates who find success by appe...There are some candidates who find success by appealing to our worst instincts.<br /><br />But you are right. Let us not be inspired by those candidates calling out the best in us. That is so "child development."<br /><br />Instead, let's read a blog about all those damned kids with all those damned Ivy League degrees making all that damned money.<br /><br />Far more mature.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79329137544890345072014-07-24T13:11:51.883-04:002014-07-24T13:11:51.883-04:00If all successful candidates inspire magical think...If all successful candidates inspire magical thinking, they inspire us to think like children. It's a child development term and not a good thing in adults. It refers to a child's blind faith in his ability to effortlessly control his environment and what occurs in it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-1015619288435227772014-07-24T12:54:49.042-04:002014-07-24T12:54:49.042-04:00Is your comment about what Bob's point "a...Is your comment about what Bob's point "appears to be" necessitated because Bob's explanation was fuzzy or because it was murky?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-43111461482894773422014-07-24T12:53:07.731-04:002014-07-24T12:53:07.731-04:00Which half is sane?Which half is sane?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-30370083724855241092014-07-24T12:38:02.361-04:002014-07-24T12:38:02.361-04:00You may be right, but are you suggesting that Hill...You may be right, but are you suggesting that Hillary and Chelsea are not qualified for their respective jobs? I think the issue is that some (not all) celebrity hires are not qualified. The point Bob is making appears to be that the media tends to hire celebrity children, whether they are qualified or not. Good business. Bad journalism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-829935123605468622014-07-24T10:04:29.011-04:002014-07-24T10:04:29.011-04:00His show is tanking. In a few years, like his brot...His show is tanking. In a few years, like his brother, he will admit the charges against Woody Allen are false and trumped up by his half insane Mother. Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-42137260752208710272014-07-24T09:06:17.986-04:002014-07-24T09:06:17.986-04:00But that's what successful candidates do -- th...But that's what successful candidates do -- they inspire that "magical thinking."<br /><br />FDR did it in 1932. Ike did it in 1952. Kennedy did it in 1960. Clinton did it in 1992. Obama did it in 2008.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-25563867244442005642014-07-24T08:23:21.481-04:002014-07-24T08:23:21.481-04:00It would be analogous if there wasn't so much ...It would be analogous if there wasn't so much magical thinking surrounding Obama in 2007 and2008. I think that's what Ferraro was trying to say. Her mistake was bringing in race and gender without evidence. Maybe you don't think there was magical thinking among Obama supporters. I do. Some have come to that conclusion only after viewing his presidency. The original statement about Clinton was sexist. I provided evidence why I thought so. You're free to disagree, but I still think so. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-53498442716618910872014-07-24T06:37:15.945-04:002014-07-24T06:37:15.945-04:00If Hillary wasn't married to Bill, she would n...If Hillary wasn't married to Bill, she would not be in this position. <br /><br />If Chelsea wasn't Bill's daughter she would not be in this position.<br /><br />Right? Of course. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-17489770402242560362014-07-24T06:33:26.619-04:002014-07-24T06:33:26.619-04:003:02, Obama was accomplished. So why is it not an...3:02, Obama was accomplished. So why is it not analogous? To me, it's the same. <br /><br />5:42, i'd say he was where he was more because of his father than brother, but either way yeah. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-70240692733582838532014-07-23T21:01:43.796-04:002014-07-23T21:01:43.796-04:00He was named Satchel after Mr. Paige.He was named Satchel after Mr. Paige.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-33092056415334630752014-07-23T20:46:38.777-04:002014-07-23T20:46:38.777-04:00When he was a little kid, his name was Satchel Far...When he was a little kid, his name was Satchel Farrow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-68275290116418165472014-07-23T17:46:38.287-04:002014-07-23T17:46:38.287-04:00If he was Sachel Paige II he would have spent deca...If he was Sachel Paige II he would have spent decades at the local affiliate befor being brought up to the network.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-46148399207811105442014-07-23T17:42:44.000-04:002014-07-23T17:42:44.000-04:00No more than to say Bobby Kennedy was where he was...No more than to say Bobby Kennedy was where he was when he was shot was because of his brother.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79781404710264049842014-07-23T17:29:27.879-04:002014-07-23T17:29:27.879-04:00I would take issue with Abby being the child of a ...I would take issue with Abby being the child of a famous person. Abby is significantly better known these days than her father. Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10228751291651549631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-27300410387678162152014-07-23T15:56:21.387-04:002014-07-23T15:56:21.387-04:00Look at pictures of Frank Sinatra, Woody Allen, an...Look at pictures of Frank Sinatra, Woody Allen, and Ronan Farrow. He really is Ronan Sinatra.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-49191523689755519562014-07-23T15:02:37.426-04:002014-07-23T15:02:37.426-04:00It was wrong for her to say that, but I don't ...It was wrong for her to say that, but I don't think GF was a racist. I also don't think this is analogous to saying an accomplished woman is where she is because of her husband. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-75925909873495620652014-07-23T14:31:10.352-04:002014-07-23T14:31:10.352-04:00Put this in the wrong spot - second try:
So i gue...Put this in the wrong spot - second try:<br /><br />So i guess when a member of HC's 2008 campaign (i.e., G. Ferraro) said this:<br /><br />“If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman of any color, he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is."<br /><br />You dared to say it was wrong and it was racist. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-19050356836135533192014-07-23T14:29:21.942-04:002014-07-23T14:29:21.942-04:00So i guess when a member of HC's 2008 campaign...So i guess when a member of HC's 2008 campaign (i.e., G. Ferraro) said this:<br /><br />“If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman of any color, he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is."<br /><br />You dared to say it was wrong and it was racist. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-61338176953441588642014-07-23T14:26:26.640-04:002014-07-23T14:26:26.640-04:00Not to mention, she was the family's main brea...Not to mention, she was the family's main breadwinner during the Arkansas years. Very wrong to say she wouldn't be where she is without him. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-50019845885103127262014-07-23T14:17:33.117-04:002014-07-23T14:17:33.117-04:00Yes, because , at least, in Hillary's case, it...Yes, because , at least, in Hillary's case, it's inaccurate. She has a long history in public service and advocacy going back to before meeting "Bubba". After her marriage her public career took a back seat to his. Bus she helped him with politics and policy. Many in Arkansas believe he never would have been re-elected governor in 1982 without her brains and hard work. So, yes, it's wrong, and, dare I say it, sexist. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-26599500531427625942014-07-23T13:44:10.978-04:002014-07-23T13:44:10.978-04:00Chelsea got her job because she's Bubba daught...Chelsea got her job because she's Bubba daughter. Hillary got her jobs because she's married to Bubba. <br /><br />Is that wrong to say?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com