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But your previous two posts, making points about what an exceptional figure<br />Manchin is, even if he doesn’t always do exactly what the Democrats want, were great.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09411393256656761429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-22335761668800020632021-03-29T15:50:01.131-04:002021-03-29T15:50:01.131-04:00Excellent point, Cecilia! The more I find out abou...Excellent point, Cecilia! The more I find out about her, the more baffling she becomes.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09411393256656761429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-8009028579373078842021-03-29T09:28:53.900-04:002021-03-29T09:28:53.900-04:00Republicans are too busy suppressing the votes of ...Republicans are too busy suppressing the votes of black people in elections to do anything about guns. <br />What's Manchin's excuse?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-7627052293196635892021-03-27T20:48:02.269-04:002021-03-27T20:48:02.269-04:00'Our biggest stars invent, and sell, their her...'Our biggest stars invent, and sell, their heroes and their demons'<br /><br />Somerby's stars Hannity and Carlsom did just that, and Somerby gallantly defended their and his heroes -- Trump, Roy Moore, Ron Johnson, Zimmerman, Turner etc. Centristnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-83084275686902788822021-03-27T20:31:18.645-04:002021-03-27T20:31:18.645-04:00He votes with Dems a lot of the time. There is no ...He votes with Dems a lot of the time. There is no other living Dem who can carry WV. Manchin is a phenomenon and those who say he should become a R are morons. Centristnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-58256968442354425472021-03-27T20:27:56.368-04:002021-03-27T20:27:56.368-04:00Dems should thank their lucky stars they have some...Dems should thank their lucky stars they have someone who can win a Senate seat in a state Trump won by 38 pts. Republicans would cut off their right arms to have a R who can win a Senate seat in VT or CA. Centristnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-45692970544299345962021-03-27T19:09:43.730-04:002021-03-27T19:09:43.730-04:00"Meanwhile, we the people are fairly sure tha..."Meanwhile, we the people are fairly sure that those French cuffs made all the difference. "<br /><br />I'm sure Somerby has never worn French cuffs himself and doesn't own a pair of cufflinks. He perhaps considers those extra long red ties that Trump wore to be the height of fashion. An ill-fitting suit doesn't make someone less of an elitist when he owns a gold toilet! But Democrats are the elitists because Biden looked spiffy? Meanwhile Ivanka has had more plastic surgery than women twice her age and porn stars combined, but she's not an elitist? <br /><br />Where does Somerby get his ideas about what the public can relate to? Too much reading Slate, no doubt.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-30079560336065914592021-03-27T15:04:55.915-04:002021-03-27T15:04:55.915-04:00Maybe Manchin really was swayed by the gun marketi...Maybe Manchin really was swayed by the gun marketing group funded by Russian oligarchs, who reminded him guns are needed to shoot police officers when they tyrannize the citizenry.<br /><br />Lobbying FTW!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-17683268449397200332021-03-27T13:05:58.641-04:002021-03-27T13:05:58.641-04:00“Majority Leader Harry Reid, who supported the pro...“Majority Leader Harry Reid, who supported the proposal but voted against it on the basis of one of the Senate's three million arcane procedural rules.”<br /><br />This brings up a major theme of Maddow’s discussion that Somerby, of course, overlooks. <br /><br />He wants to portray Maddow’s sole purpose as simply dumping on Manchin, apparently just for grins or to earn progressive cred or because she’s just a “crackpot.”<br /><br />Her real theme was to discuss precisely those “arcane procedural rules”, or at least one of them, the filibuster. The filibuster prevents normal legislation from passing, particularly in an almost 100% polarized senate. You need 60 votes to shut it down, and neither party has had 60+ votes in the senate since 1977-79, when the Democrats had 61. Neither party is likely to achieve this number in the foreseeable future. <br /><br />Thus, Maddow’s whole point was not to gratuitously attack conservative Dem Manchin, but to point out how a senate rule/procedure (the filibuster) causes the Senate to grind to a halt and become captive to the whims of the most conservative Dem Senator. <br /><br />This makes her not a crackpot. She understands the political realities of the filibuster far better than Somerby, it would seem. mhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08937133532381705347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-3301310637445324202021-03-27T12:59:04.908-04:002021-03-27T12:59:04.908-04:00If Democrats became Republicans think how many red...If Democrats became Republicans think how many red states we could carry!<br /><br />But there is a reason we don't do that. Think really hard and you can probably figure out why. It has to do with important issues such as gun control and voting rights. <br /><br />You run for office and get elected to do things, not to pretend to be Republicans so you can keep your cushy job.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-28286635709946120112021-03-27T12:56:37.188-04:002021-03-27T12:56:37.188-04:00This will be moot when DC gets statehood.This will be moot when DC gets statehood.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-48052645926830091852021-03-27T12:47:46.773-04:002021-03-27T12:47:46.773-04:00If Maddow needs a redheaded step-child in the part...If Maddow needs a redheaded step-child in the party, why doesn’t she go with Kyrsten Sinema? Ceceliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162272807640653299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-11180862542439257022021-03-27T11:57:58.180-04:002021-03-27T11:57:58.180-04:00No, this hypothetical is not meaningless. Manchin ...No, this hypothetical is not meaningless. Manchin only won by about three points in a state Trump carried by 50.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-91113782249990278642021-03-27T11:41:46.404-04:002021-03-27T11:41:46.404-04:00"It all began with those dick jokes in 2009,&..."It all began with those dick jokes in 2009,"<br /><br />And here we see the real reason Somerby dislikes Maddow. Some men just cannot stand a dick joke, no matter how funny their dicks might be. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-32292249637219520922021-03-27T11:39:33.158-04:002021-03-27T11:39:33.158-04:00"Her crazy episodes have been many. "
I..."Her crazy episodes have been many. "<br /><br />It isn't kosher to talk about the "crazy episodes" of someone who has admitted to bipolar disorder. Kind of like when Trump mocked that reporter who had a motor disability. <br /><br />But when you hate someone as much as Somerby hates Maddow, all is fair, I guess. <br /><br />This makes me glad Bandy Lee lost her job. She set a piss-poor example for Somerby by using psychiatric labels for political purposes. Maybe Somerby will learn from her mistake and stop calling people he dislikes "crazy" and admit that his hate has little to do with her show's content and more to do with some past snub or ongoing problem with women in general, and lesbians specifically. We know it cannot be because of these criticisms. They are too trivial and often wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-2203916582599612752021-03-27T11:35:17.248-04:002021-03-27T11:35:17.248-04:00"(Luckily, Manchin was able to hold on to his..."(Luckily, Manchin was able to hold on to his Senate seat, if by a narrow margin. Had he lost, Mitch McConnell would still be running the Senate. President Biden's $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan—Senator Manchin voted for it—would never have come up for a vote.)"<br /><br />These hypotheticals are meaningless. If Stacey Abrams had won the governorship in GA, she wouldn't have engaged in her voter registration campaign and Warnock and Ossoff would never have been elected and the Dems would have had no chance of a majority at all. And if Diane Feinstein had never been born, she wouldn't be in the senate now and the Dems would still be short of a majority, or maybe if several Republicans had lost we would have had a much bigger majority and no one would care about Manchin's vote.<br /><br />See, this kind of speculation is a waste of time and it certainly doesn't make Maddow wrong in any of the things she has been saying about Manchin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-34153568027289635602021-03-27T11:31:06.245-04:002021-03-27T11:31:06.245-04:00"On the Democratic side of the aisle, everyon..."On the Democratic side of the aisle, everyone from Obama on down stood in support of Manchin-Toomey because it was clear that this would be the best they could possibly hope to do."<br /><br />Except that 5 Democrats voted against Manchin-Toomey. That doesn't sound like the solid support Somerby claims.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-46444290455420934522021-03-27T11:27:58.781-04:002021-03-27T11:27:58.781-04:00"In other words, Manchin sacrificed his NRA r..."In other words, Manchin sacrificed his NRA rating in the course of trying to extend background checks."<br /><br />Real Democrats don't worry about maintaining their A ratings with the NRA. It is fine to say that Manchin was elected from a red state, but if he behaves like a Republican he might as well be one. Actual supporters of gun control tend to have D and F ratings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com