tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post8000613164170217699..comments2024-03-28T08:51:18.908-04:00Comments on the daily howler: CONCERNING THE 48,000: Suffering in a such smaller Detroit!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-49263034270230540782018-06-26T06:07:58.450-04:002018-06-26T06:07:58.450-04:00hello,
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LeroyNoted. Thank you.<br /><br />LeroyLeroyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02021120389394278239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-48628643085997848072018-01-11T18:08:23.757-05:002018-01-11T18:08:23.757-05:00They don't care as much as they think they do....They don't care as much as they think they do. I think that's the point. And, they get easily sidetracked.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-47878280230841146782018-01-11T14:29:35.183-05:002018-01-11T14:29:35.183-05:00Have some more kool-aid, imp.Have some more kool-aid, imp.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-75104879117166684732018-01-11T12:37:50.313-05:002018-01-11T12:37:50.313-05:00Yes, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are responsi...Yes, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are responsible for the attack on Libya and its consequences. That's among the worst things either of them did.impCaesarAvghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03384806750440039982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-73475104654096861082018-01-11T10:39:26.653-05:002018-01-11T10:39:26.653-05:00This November, we get to see if the strategy of th...This November, we get to see if the strategy of the plutocrats is victorious, or if they are thwarted one more time. “The Great Experiment” is hanging on by a thread. gravymeisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16075831177588700301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79439333740720536872018-01-11T07:59:35.830-05:002018-01-11T07:59:35.830-05:00Bob cares about poor children, but under plutocrac...Bob cares about poor children, but under plutocracy; the more poor children the better, the more uneducated children the better. Because a truly educated citizenry would instantly do away with plutocracy. Under a truly educated citizenry the toxic ideologies that inform the Republican base and reinforce plutocracy would be forever laughed off the face of the Earth. Conformity, obedience, worship of wealth; that’s what education consists of under a plutocracy such as ours.Gloucon Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05218027862578514587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-40158591969512050572018-01-11T06:49:07.207-05:002018-01-11T06:49:07.207-05:00"predictable""predictable"mmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-75874438325154773932018-01-11T06:47:31.337-05:002018-01-11T06:47:31.337-05:00You're such a predicable little broken record ...You're such a predicable little broken record prick David. Secretary Clinton was proposing increasing the number of refugees taken in which would have greatly alleviated the slave trade, while you voted for the fuckhead who proposed stopping all refugees from coming to this country. You're a predicable fucking hypocrite.mmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-5620313224813822962018-01-10T23:20:31.935-05:002018-01-10T23:20:31.935-05:00Not their responsibility. Obama was president of t...Not their responsibility. Obama was president of the USA not Libya. Hillary was out of office.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-24831987956867571492018-01-10T23:16:56.179-05:002018-01-10T23:16:56.179-05:00She foolishly endorsed the overthrow of Khadafy, w...She foolishly endorsed the overthrow of Khadafy, which led to the slavery. Of course, she didn't mean that to happen. But, she and Obama had no plan for Libya after Khadafy was gone. Now the country is a total mess.David in Calhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09068188536758619565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-36647488163567498662018-01-10T21:56:37.844-05:002018-01-10T21:56:37.844-05:00Yeah, I have to concur with you. I agree with Bob...Yeah, I have to concur with you. I agree with Bob on a lot but I think it's a ridiculous game to dismiss concerns for group X because group Y has it worse. I don't know why this professor is being held up as representative of anything. Is Bob saying that studies like hers shouldn't occur until we solve contemporary problems? I really don't get this approach.<br /><br />I think he's taking his usual themes to a bit of an absurd extreme, here. I fully agree that society as a general pays attention to problems out of proportion with their importance. But this is a poor example. It's weird to think that this woman shouldn't be distressed by some (presumably) horrible personal tales because there are current problems that affect many people. How shallow then are people who get emotionally attached to fictional characters? I do that all the time. The reality of the human psyche is that it's easier to relate to individuals than to large faceless groups. This is not new, nor will it change.<br /><br />Sorry, Bob, I think you're really barking up the wrong tree with this example.PosterZerohttp://google.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-60612568788733212312018-01-10T21:16:18.069-05:002018-01-10T21:16:18.069-05:00That’s Dr. Miles to you, Leroy.That’s Dr. Miles to you, Leroy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-32684938189942458912018-01-10T21:14:09.489-05:002018-01-10T21:14:09.489-05:00I don’t believe Hillary Clinton instituted slavery...I don’t believe Hillary Clinton instituted slavery anywhere in the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-61319992464622033832018-01-10T20:45:12.798-05:002018-01-10T20:45:12.798-05:00Haw! You shouldn't have stopped, Caesar, you c...Haw! You shouldn't have stopped, Caesar, you could have taken them too.<br /><br />LeroyLeroyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02021120389394278239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-47935569743603156352018-01-10T20:25:04.052-05:002018-01-10T20:25:04.052-05:00BTW, slaves are being bought and sold right now in...BTW, slaves are being bought and sold right now in Libya. This is a result of a dreadful decision by Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton to overthrow Khadafy. Should we not be more concerned about actual slavery today than about slavery that existed 300 years ago?<br /><br /><i>October 2017<br />A CNN team travels to Libya and witnesses a dozen men auctioned -- some for as little as $400 each. The crew is also told of auctions taking place at nine locations in the country.</i><br />http://www.cnn.com/specials/africa/libya-slave-auctionsDavid in Calhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09068188536758619565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-52283612907654924852018-01-10T20:07:05.190-05:002018-01-10T20:07:05.190-05:00As do you, and others.
Bob seems to be emotionall...As do you, and others.<br /><br />Bob seems to be emotionally invested in the idea of education, and while he’s no professional academic, I don’t doubt his sincerity. He’s not imposing demands. In all of this, he seems more concerned with the present and future of living beings rather than the known depredations of the past.<br /><br />This article is a rhetorical device as are many of his posts. Though you must admit, he backs up his rhetoric with research. He lauds the intelligence of Ms. Miles. He did not denigrate her, in fact the opposite, she made him think. Ms. Miles presentation (whom I’ve never heard of until recently) was the hook for Bob’s post. And an interesting one, in my view. Also interesting that you would invoke academics to explain the misguided writings of a simple, little-known blogger.<br /><br />Some anon below wondered why Bob wasn’t worried about Baltimore schools. First, this is actually being well covered. Second, doing so would lessen the effect of Bob’s hook. Miles talked about Detroit history, so Bob is talking about Detroit’s present, in regards to schools and the future portended for those who attend it.<br /><br />Perhaps the Detroit school system is actually in the mainstream news, like Baltimore has been lately. I have not seen any reports. One probably wouldn’t, unless locally involved. Maybe I’m wrong. Won’t bother me if I am, I can correct if I have to.<br /><br />Leroy<br />Leroyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02021120389394278239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-33744312259376639232018-01-10T20:03:57.335-05:002018-01-10T20:03:57.335-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Leroyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02021120389394278239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-49928141349852541292018-01-10T17:35:26.853-05:002018-01-10T17:35:26.853-05:00It's all in service of his narrative, that lib...It's all in service of his narrative, that liberals (or as he would have it, liberal "thought leaders", whatever that means (notice he exempts himself from that designation)) are hypocrites and don't care about (insert issue here: education, poor kids, sexual harassment...)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-25233304743814655952018-01-10T17:30:30.832-05:002018-01-10T17:30:30.832-05:00Hey, Bob, have you checked out the local Detroit o...Hey, Bob, have you checked out the local Detroit or Michigan media, to see what their coverage of education has been? I'm going to guess "no." While national policy may help, sometimes the local communities are really the ones on the front lines of education issues. The residents there are the ones sending their children to area schools, paying taxes to fund schools, and sending reps to their state house to make state-level education policy and budgets. Why so concerned about Detroit? Why not Boston? Little Rock? Atlanta? Or all together?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-51088939528370978762018-01-10T14:21:52.145-05:002018-01-10T14:21:52.145-05:00Last night, a hundred parents, grandparents and co...Last night, a hundred parents, grandparents and concerned community members showed up at a school board hearing about heating problems in Baltimore City Public Schools. They testified before the board and directed pointed questions to the superintendent and board members. These were parents, concerned about their children’s welfare and the safety of their children and their teachers. It was covered by local TV and print media.<br />The Howler has been strangely silent on an ongoing crisis that affects youngsters in his community.<br />Why?<br />An historian is expected to write history covering her area of expertise. I’m not sure why you’re criticizing her for not taking time out of her research to do public advocacy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-44616188097819944162018-01-10T14:10:21.966-05:002018-01-10T14:10:21.966-05:00The Caucasus, for example.The Caucasus, for example.impCaesarAvghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03384806750440039982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-14385275790611746782018-01-10T13:58:33.440-05:002018-01-10T13:58:33.440-05:00I agree that masturbating in public to selected hi...I agree that masturbating in public to selected historical tragedies isn't the most admirable pattern of behavior, but contrasting it with the quality of schools? <br /><br />Sure, I understand what you do here: a few unfortunate slaves in Detroit long time ago vs a lot of unfortunate students in Detroit schools today. But if we ignore the geographical location for a moment, surely there must be plenty of ongoing horrible injustices all over the world more worthy of attention than Detroit schools... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-62935599767950456572018-01-10T13:40:24.565-05:002018-01-10T13:40:24.565-05:00So what is Somerby suggesting? That historians sho...So what is Somerby suggesting? That historians should go fuck themselves for caring about history? Or for being emotionally invested in their area of focus? Is he suggesting his own moral superiority? This is just ridiculous. Why in hell can't he just discuss the "48,000" without chastising someone else ( a liberal, natch) for not discussing it? He always seems to want to put someone down, and seems constitutionally unable to just discuss a topic straight, even one that he loudly proclaims he cares so much about. I charge Somerby with NOT caring about the 48,000. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-21298744395671985502018-01-10T13:35:51.791-05:002018-01-10T13:35:51.791-05:00In 100 years, those 48,000 will also be dead and t...In 100 years, those 48,000 will also be dead and the population will have increased substantially. Should we therefore not care about today's 48,000 either?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com