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Somerby never argued that "there...anon @11:51<br /><br />Somerby never argued that "there should not be hand wringing over" deaths-- that's your characterization, designed, it seems, to make Somerby look as heartless or incompetent as possible. He only asked that the press (print and electronic) do something, anything to ADDRESS the lag between the rise in cases and decline in deaths -- he wasn't seeing that, and it seems to me to be a pertinent question to ask. The so-called "late arriving qualifier" that deaths seemed now to be on the rise arose from the reality that Somerby is reading the same data everyone else is, and the number of deaths had started to climb. You call that "slippery." I call it "paying attention" and relaying the facts as they happen. But 12:07's outright misrepresentation of Somerby's statement is dishonest, and your claim that he scorned "hand-wringing" over deaths is at the very least distorted. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-33116904705763134872020-07-12T23:51:15.327-04:002020-07-12T23:51:15.327-04:0010:00, it is not central to 12:07's point. His...10:00, it is not central to 12:07's point. His point is Somerby is slippery with his agenda. Somerby's qualifier comes after days of insisting that deaths were on the decline so there should not be hand wringing over cases. This was obviously ridiculous, it is clear that deaths lag cases, yet Somerby kept pushing his narrative. The late arriving qualifier rings hollow, context matters. I do not know if it is ironic, but your complaint actually cuts against Somerby, not 12:07.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-10456650448259407622020-07-12T22:00:41.298-04:002020-07-12T22:00:41.298-04:00Right! So you read all of what Somerby wrote, and...Right! So you read all of what Somerby wrote, and then you made a false claim, i.e. he "doesn't discuss how likely it is that we may yet hit the top of the list of little countries in Europe." Did you just say that just to score points -- that's intellectual dishonesty. I don't call it constructive at all.<br /><br />I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt when I said that maybe you didn't read everything he wrote. Since you don't want to own up to your "mistake" (or intellectual dishonesty, take your pick), you shift your focus to whether Cooper did a good job (which Somerby says he didn't), and you say Cooper did. That's an argument worth making. So why go out of your way to misrepresent Somerby? Is it because you think your argument can't stand on its own merits?<br /><br />Oh well.<br /><br />Very slippery. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-51964995159968845872020-07-12T20:49:45.169-04:002020-07-12T20:49:45.169-04:00How does Somerby make a living? He doesn't wor...How does Somerby make a living? He doesn't work. Anyone know who funds him?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-69364327426358767242020-07-12T20:44:52.994-04:002020-07-12T20:44:52.994-04:003:46 is calling 4:04 an asshole because 11:32 call...3:46 is calling 4:04 an asshole because 11:32 called Somerby an asshole? Wouldn't that make 3:46 an asshole? You guys figure it out, all this asshole talk is making me need to go poop.<br /><br />Ok, tanks fo da chuckle. I am enjoying the slow burn.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-92183438889241179462020-07-12T18:39:03.486-04:002020-07-12T18:39:03.486-04:00From the Times:
“The seven-day death average in th...From the Times:<br />“The seven-day death average in the United States reached 608 on Thursday, up from 471 earlier in July, but still a fraction of the more than 2,200 deaths the country averaged each day in mid-April, when the situation in the Northeast was at its worst.<br /><br /><b>Some health experts cautioned that it was too early to predict a continuing trend from only a few days of data.</b> But on Friday, Dr. Deborah L. Birx, the White House’s coronavirus response coordinator, struck a different tone than President Trump has in recent days, saying that she expects to soon see an increase in deaths.”<br /><br />From the Post:<br />“After mid-April, the daily death toll declined as shutdown orders took effect across the country and the virus curve began to flatten. The low point came July 5, with 217 recorded coronavirus deaths, the lowest toll since March 24, when the pandemic was in its initial upswing.<br /><br />Since then, amid record-breaking case numbers in several states, the death count has begun to rise, surpassing 800 deaths each of the past four days. Although still below the highs in April and May, when more than 2,000 people per day were regularly dying from the virus, experts warn that the trend <b>could </b> continue to get worse.”<br /><br />There isn’t much difference between the two accounts, and they both convey factual information. mhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-7148601116104318452020-07-12T18:01:36.720-04:002020-07-12T18:01:36.720-04:00Anon 4:22, nicely put. Somerby continually nitpick...Anon 4:22, nicely put. Somerby continually nitpicks over small matters, quite often on matter he is ignorant about when commenting on an item that criticizes DJT (or Barr, Roy Moore etc). <br /><br />But he repeats right wing talking points, such as those from Faux, uncritically. <br /> <br />Somerby complains about media narratives, but he has his own narrative -- a narrative that just happens to consist of defending DJT, Barr etc. I ('We') can't 100% say that Somerby is a malevolent Trumptard, but <br />certainly 90-95% of evidence points that wayCentristnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-33134173066580583412020-07-12T17:33:34.073-04:002020-07-12T17:33:34.073-04:00"Trump doesn't love the establishment.&qu..."Trump doesn't love the establishment."<br /><br />His cabinet appointments say otherwise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-49505243395950041142020-07-12T17:22:23.532-04:002020-07-12T17:22:23.532-04:00Not so puzzling when there are several proposed ex...Not so puzzling when there are several proposed explanations for that ratio:<br /><br />1. better treatment (no longer using protocols for severe respiratory failure as model, using less aggressive but more effective approaches learned via experience with covid)<br />2. less overwhelmed hospital staff and ICUs<br />3. greater availability of resources such as ventilators and associated drugs<br />4. patients no longer being sent to nursing homes, better visiting and staff testing at nursing homes where patients are more vulnerable<br />5. younger people becoming infected because they are the ones ignoring social distancing, not older at-risk people<br />6. redesivir and similar new drugs being tested<br />7. prevention of inflammatory reactions of the auto-immune system<br />8. less delay in seeking and obtaining medical attention for serious cases, earlier intervention, greater awareness of varied symptoms, support systems for those ill at home<br />9. Pressure in some states to under-report deaths, less testing of sick people, failure to test for covid after death so deaths appear to be from other causes.<br /><br />You don't have to call this puzzling just because Somerby does. He is either not following this closely or he has an interest in pretending the press isn't reporting what is happening. All of the things I've listed come from the media, especially the local briefings occurring daily in my geographic area. <br /><br />If you are asking why this past month shows such a difference, there are possible explanations for that too. One is that every day matters and new info is being shared among medical practitioners daily. Another is that the reopening has occurred over the past month, and has been most enthusiastic among young people and they are in general more likely to survive the virus.<br /><br />I would expect the ratio to go up a little in the coming weeks because of the shortages and strain on resources in Houston and Arizona. They will be more like Italy and NYC were. In other places were virus cases are increasing, there are not strains on ICU beds or hospital ERs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-51697187443036431552020-07-12T16:38:54.893-04:002020-07-12T16:38:54.893-04:00"as if every community were equally infected ..."as if every community were equally infected by the virus. That isn't the case. Our country is very large and there are big differences from place to place" Yes, that is the exact same thing I found wrong with this piece. It is not that important that the national average of deaths is increasing. We won't too look at regions. <br /><br />Puzzingly, the ratio of deaths/cases is still far lower than a month ago.<br /><br />https://www.seattle-data.com/comparisons/state-deathsPaulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03969455475085163640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-13255334249537698792020-07-12T16:22:27.045-04:002020-07-12T16:22:27.045-04:00Cooper conveyed correct information. We are among ...Cooper conveyed correct information. We are among the worst, if not THE worst nation in terms of dealing with covid. <br /><br />Somerby thinks he understands statistics well enough to critique the news. He doesn't. He routinely makes basic mistakes himself, including today.<br /><br />You think that admitting that we may well top the list eventually gets him off the hook? It doesn't, because Cooper didn't present that list -- he said we are doing badly and that remains true no matter where we are on Somerby's favorite list.<br /><br />Cooper is doing the right thing by summarizing what the consequences are of such numbers, not quoting them directly. Putting up a list like Somerby's doesn't work on TV because readers don't have time to figure out what it means, even if they are comfortable with numbers. Cooper's summary of the info is right -- we are doomed. Somerby should discuss that evaluation but instead he's off on a nit-pick chase, calling journalists incompetent statistically when it is himself who doesn't know what these numbers imply about our situation.<br /><br />I have made several constructive comments today. Your point implies that Somerby agrees with Cooper's conclusion. I don't believe that is true.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-21814415904310947662020-07-12T16:04:10.352-04:002020-07-12T16:04:10.352-04:00Are you arguing that Somerby is number three?
Ex...Are you arguing that Somerby is number three? <br /><br />Excessively literal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-75705596820530179422020-07-12T15:59:37.242-04:002020-07-12T15:59:37.242-04:00It's bad all right. Maybe it's even the wo...It's bad all right. Maybe it's even the worst, as you say.<br /><br />But that's no excuse for lazy journalism. Or worse, journalism that keeps eyeballs glued by deliberately shaping evidence to suit a story line. <br /><br />As for your point that Somerby "doesn't discuss how likely it is that we may yet hit the top of the list of little countries in Europe," didn't you read the following in which he says exactly what you claim he didn't?<br /><br />QUOTE:<br /><br />"Make no mistake! Before this whole disaster is done, the United States may well be number one for deaths even adjusted for population. We say that because our daily deaths have started to rise once again, while many other countries seem to have wrestled daily deaths to the ground.<br /><br />It would be interesting to see Cooper convey such elementary information to CNN's viewers. But CNN, and especially Cooper, have long since ceased to focus on the reporting of information, even basic information."<br /><br />END QUOTE<br /><br />Now I understand that a lot of commenters here seem fed up with Somerby that they can barely bring themselves to read him. But if you can't bring yourself to read what he says, ALL that he says, how can you make a constructive comment? <br /><br />Oh well.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-44413751014921704882020-07-12T15:54:11.750-04:002020-07-12T15:54:11.750-04:00Trump doesn't love the establishment. He loves...Trump doesn't love the establishment. He loves himself and he loves money. Republicans cling to him with the hope that they can pick up the crumbs he leaves as he loots the country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-74482230234345484242020-07-12T14:43:38.078-04:002020-07-12T14:43:38.078-04:00Trump is no worse than any other establishment lov...Trump is no worse than any other establishment loving, bigoted, Republican. He's the current figure-head for their criminal enterprise, but they'll find another piece of shit to glom onto, as soon as he's out of office.<br />Bet on it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-82971930940989881472020-07-12T13:47:56.603-04:002020-07-12T13:47:56.603-04:00Somerby doesn't mention why Belgium's numb...Somerby doesn't mention why Belgium's numbers are so high. It's because Belgium counts suspected COVID cases in deaths, which the US does not (for the most part). Belgium is singularly honest about it's death numbers, but many US states are not. <br /><br />Somerby is a malevolent Trumptard, so he focuses his complaints on his usual bashing of anyone who dares to criticize his Orange Messiah. Centristnoreply@blogger.com