tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post8452642664496247665..comments2024-03-28T15:46:48.946-04:00Comments on the daily howler: Supplemental: The journalism of pseudo-scandal!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-86645298042854277222014-07-17T08:21:21.727-04:002014-07-17T08:21:21.727-04:00"Judging by the pitter patter of little comme..."Judging by the pitter patter of little commentary feet away from this I would say nobody cares if TDH trashes Dowd because once is enough."<br /><br />See how cute a little douchebaggery can be!<br /><br />Just look at him, uncle KZ! Ain't he cute?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-36211731885058450492014-07-16T23:53:50.375-04:002014-07-16T23:53:50.375-04:00I'm going to be a little redundant which I thi... I'm going to be a little redundant which I think I'm paradoxically sort of entitled to because I don't abuse my fellow posters by being the twelfth <br />peson signing on as "Anonymous." Please, take a day and think up a handle. More people will read you, no one will know it's you, and you'll feel better about yourself. <br /> Anyway, what I think Bob misses, and maybe it's good and bad, is that to a large degree we have simply stopped listening to each other. Take the IRS Scandal, a ridiculous circus dreamed up for one sort of news consumer, yet too lame to even argue about by the rest. Maureen Dowd is not taken seriously by serious people. Period. Why does She keep her job? Well, She is really in Show Business and once you have a hit in Show Business it can take you a long way. <br /> In Hillary's run it will be interesting to see how some play the game. Will Ariana bring the deranged Marc Cooper out of retirement to "cover" the election? Maybe, but the L.A. Times and Weekly won't. Will anybody call Matthews out on his 180? Maybe, but who will care? Will the Newsmax Rape Victim, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey grace us with there presence? Maybe, but these laughingstocks probably stand a better chance of taking home the 20 our so grand they are looking for by repenting. <br /> But, the past is likely to be prologue in Hill's triumph. Watching Dowd flip out in desperation will be fun for a few of us... but, most will NOT CARE. Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-58074758667898770882014-07-16T17:33:33.081-04:002014-07-16T17:33:33.081-04:002:09 Are you still having trouble seeing things w...2:09 Are you still having trouble seeing things which are not there and missing those things which are?<br /><br />I believe the only adjective I used was "interesting."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-60877375070459597942014-07-16T17:28:53.526-04:002014-07-16T17:28:53.526-04:00No, I don't suppose. I know she plucked this ...No, I don't suppose. I know she plucked this one from her mama's employ at the state department and deposited him as her Press Secretary at the Chelsea Bill Hill Gaping Maw Foundation where presumably he is paid in part from proceeds of her paid, rather than volunteer, speeches.<br /><br />Bazbaz is a NYC native and graduate of prestigious Ivy League Brown University and was a paid staffer of Hillary Clinton's 2008 Presidential campaign before becoming a Schedule C employee of the US taxpayers. <br /><br />I think Krystal Ball is a funny name too. She, like Chelsea Clinton, gets paid by NBC. <br /><br />It's a small, small world after all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-1891827368524336682014-07-16T14:09:46.411-04:002014-07-16T14:09:46.411-04:00You thought that was a positive article?You thought that was a positive article?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-8625377308407286672014-07-16T13:37:42.268-04:002014-07-16T13:37:42.268-04:00In response to Question 1, I have no idea. I am j...In response to Question 1, I have no idea. I am just a lazy commenter who clicked on the address, copied it, and pasted the result. <br /><br />In response to Paragraph 2, in a vein similar to your first question:<br /><br /> "Another negative article about...Clinton" was all you needed to write for us to know you are too stupid and lazy not to see anything other than glowing praise for Hillary or attacks on her perceived enemies as negative. <br /><br />Vavrek is not a journalist. But I guess not fully reading my comment or her opinion piece, you didn't learn that. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-74494823063262742982014-07-16T12:33:29.968-04:002014-07-16T12:33:29.968-04:00Yes, Americans with ethnic backgrounds have funny ...Yes, Americans with ethnic backgrounds have funny names. Lets all laugh at them. Ha ha ha. Do you suppose Clinton might have met some of those people with funny names in the global foundation work she has been doing, helping to improve living conditions around the world?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-15023076608813194882014-07-16T12:31:27.265-04:002014-07-16T12:31:27.265-04:00This is a straightforward criticism of a person yo...This is a straightforward criticism of a person you have probably never met. It says nothing whatsoever about what you find objectionable in the content of what he writes. For example, what did you disagree with in the current post, the one these comments are supposed to refer to?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-58319781514191927362014-07-16T12:29:09.367-04:002014-07-16T12:29:09.367-04:00This part of the URL pasted above gets you to the ...This part of the URL pasted above gets you to the story:<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/16/upshot/the-risks-of-hillary-clintons-quasi-campaign.html<br /><br />What is the rest of the URL for? <br /><br />Another negative article about how Clinton is too stupid to know when to announce her candidacy and whatever happens to her as a result must be her own fault. There is nothing new or interesting here.<br /><br />If Clinton were simply conducting a book tour and had no plans whatsoever to run for the presidency, how would the press be treating her any differently? When you announce your candidacy you have to start filing forms, adhering to rules, doing fund-raising and paying staff. Why start any of that TWO YEARS before the next election? Another lazy journalist with nothing current to write about, piling on Clinton.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-45639392458658182612014-07-16T12:18:15.571-04:002014-07-16T12:18:15.571-04:00Lynn Vavreck has an interesting piece on the curre...Lynn Vavreck has an interesting piece on the current state of affairs for Hillary Clinton. Bob may find much to like about it if he can get over the fact she is a professor, a woman, under fifty, has been on MSNBC, and her piece appears in the New York Times. <br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/16/upshot/the-risks-of-hillary-clintons-quasi-campaign.html?mabReward=RI%3A17&module=WelcomeBackModal&contentCollection=Magazine&region=FixedCenter&action=click&src=recg&pgtype=articleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-16363547609320751952014-07-16T11:22:52.837-04:002014-07-16T11:22:52.837-04:00I am beginning to see the error in TDH's think...I am beginning to see the error in TDH's thinking. I think Dowd must have cost Gore Florida instead of Chris MatthewsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-16608068780309847182014-07-16T10:53:57.378-04:002014-07-16T10:53:57.378-04:00Which Bobfan would you prefer? The expert on &quo...Which Bobfan would you prefer? The expert on "creating" or the one who knows the ins and outs of "inventing"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-37647392828532761132014-07-16T10:42:35.514-04:002014-07-16T10:42:35.514-04:00OK, I'll say it in the straightforward way you...OK, I'll say it in the straightforward way you desire.<br /><br />Like a 40-year-old guy still wearing his high school letter jacket, Bob wants to spend his time revelling in his Glory Days, some of which was all the attention he got when he first revealed the horribleness of Dowd.<br /><br />And like a comic that has long run out of new material, or a singer who hasn't had a hit in years, you can always thrill your fans with the old stuff.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79097214920756866772014-07-16T10:39:52.300-04:002014-07-16T10:39:52.300-04:00But Bob cares so much about other people's bla...But Bob cares so much about other people's black kids, even if there is no possible solution to the segregated schools which they attend.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-15220888316953742432014-07-16T10:38:05.363-04:002014-07-16T10:38:05.363-04:00I think Bob also means "mitigating" inst...I think Bob also means "mitigating" instead of "ameliorating." But then again, he's always been a sloppy writer badly in need of an editor.<br /><br />Cue the Bobfan wordshmith who will chime in how perfect a word "ameliorating" is, and how "mitigating" and "ameliorating" are actually perfectly synonymous.<br /><br />Well, knock both of your selves out.<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-47267115605840425442014-07-16T10:03:16.142-04:002014-07-16T10:03:16.142-04:008:43. Sarcastic critiques are really ineffective. ...8:43. Sarcastic critiques are really ineffective. You should try to say what you mean straightforward way. Just a suggestion. I'm not dissing you saying that what you are saying is wrong or that you are a bad person or that you are not right about what you're saying. JustAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-84218319259736507372014-07-16T09:23:12.710-04:002014-07-16T09:23:12.710-04:00OMB (Dancing around a point with OTB)
Somerby all...OMB (Dancing around a point with OTB)<br /><br />Somerby alluded to something about Dowd that IS worth commenting on and that he is not the best person to pursue further.<br /><br />One of the reasons that Dowd is so vicious toward spouses and children of her political targets is because she had never had either of her own to worry about. <br /><br />KZAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-37231848612753376912014-07-16T09:06:10.113-04:002014-07-16T09:06:10.113-04:00@ 8:25 my point, if I improperly stated it @12:04 ...@ 8:25 my point, if I improperly stated it @12:04 is this:<br /><br />Dowd wrote another horrific column. Bob did a post on it.<br />Dowd's horrific column was based on an Amy Chozik article. Bob had done a post on it.<br /><br />No doubt the Chozik article deserved a critique and 77 commenters joined the discussion. Dowd columned deserved a thrashing. 88 readers piped up. <br /><br />Now Somerby is back beating the same horse, Dowd.<br />The topic, if not Dowd's career, is, if not dead, of dubious futher interest to commenters.<br /><br />For that you call me a douchebag troll. Sorry, but that comment is as stale as bread baked by Aristotle's mommy. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-16808880593521519762014-07-16T09:05:46.689-04:002014-07-16T09:05:46.689-04:00Yes @8:54, it doesn't matter who becomes presi...Yes @8:54, it doesn't matter who becomes president in 2016 and it certainly doesn't matter if the media starts trashing the putative candidate in 2014. No need to push back because who cares who gets elected when there are so many larger problems in the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-88659779043324142502014-07-16T08:54:07.461-04:002014-07-16T08:54:07.461-04:00Meanwhile, we have one heck of a refugee crisis at...Meanwhile, we have one heck of a refugee crisis at our southern border, plus ongoing crises in Gaza, Iraq, Syria and Ukraine.<br /><br />By all means, let's focus on Dowd's Sunday column.<br /><br />Yes, yes, yes. I know. This is a "media criticism" blog, and apparently there is nothing in the media coverage of the above crises worth criticizing as much as Maureen Dowd's column on Chelsea's speaking fees.<br /><br />After all, if Bob does not speak out, who will? Dionne? Drum? Digby? MSNBC people? Don't make me laugh. They are all part of the vast conspiracy of liberal media silence, their lips sealed by their plutocratic paymasters.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-91275819803191792162014-07-16T08:43:36.007-04:002014-07-16T08:43:36.007-04:00No, no, no. By all means, point out every stupid c...No, no, no. By all means, point out every stupid column Dowd writes. Obviously "we, the people" are too dumb to judge them for ourselves, and if Somerby keeps hammering away, soon she will have no readers at all and the Times will be forced to fire her.<br /><br />I can't wait for next week's "Mansions of the Media" series, in which we will no doubt be reminded once again of Dowd's Georgetown digs once owned by the JFKs, and the Nantucket playhouses of Chris Matthews and the late Tim Russert, right next to Jack Welch.<br /><br />You can never point that out often enough.<br /><br />But we will wait patiently for that "Greatest Hit" to be sung again. We will, with little doubt, be treated today to another installment of how the whole Whitewater scandal was invented out of whole cloth, as well as all the mean things said about Al Gore 15 years ago.<br /><br />Boxcar Bob's Greatest Hits. And if you act now, we'll send you a Bonus CD -- Boxcar Bob Live from Tuscaloosa.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-51183503652704382522014-07-16T08:25:23.736-04:002014-07-16T08:25:23.736-04:00Does this column trash Dowd -- or has Dowd simply ...Does this column trash Dowd -- or has Dowd simply produced more garbage?<br /><br />Is the fact that Dowd's work is often deceptive crap a good reason to stop pointing it out when she does it again from her big platform?<br /><br />Or are you just a couple of douchebag trolls?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-45234744602515581232014-07-16T08:00:14.644-04:002014-07-16T08:00:14.644-04:00Sad. Because "Got My MoDo Workin'" i...Sad. Because "Got My MoDo Workin'" is one of Boxcar Bob's greatest hits. He never tires of singing it.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-26603803001166959782014-07-16T00:05:52.303-04:002014-07-16T00:05:52.303-04:00I think the real fear is blurting out "Is the...I think the real fear is blurting out "Is there really someone named Kamyl Bazbaz?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-49276327063521034722014-07-16T00:04:12.746-04:002014-07-16T00:04:12.746-04:00Judging by the pitter patter of little commentary ...Judging by the pitter patter of little commentary feet away from this I would say nobody cares if TDH trashes Dowd because once is enough.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com