tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post864137910818822570..comments2024-03-29T02:22:59.827-04:00Comments on the daily howler: MISLEADING AND MISLED: We heard the quiet part spoken out loud!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger72125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-43192987129702478012022-06-18T20:07:07.419-04:002022-06-18T20:07:07.419-04:00No. You don't know history.No. You don't know history.FDRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06987676214157655750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-59789772421364314872022-06-18T09:01:10.503-04:002022-06-18T09:01:10.503-04:00Reminds me of how Republicans accused Osama bin La...Reminds me of how Republicans accused Osama bin Laden of terrorism, keeping him from being elected President in 2004.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-85823235781123468342022-06-18T08:35:39.739-04:002022-06-18T08:35:39.739-04:00Our own David in Cal did his part to sink Trump’s ...Our own David in Cal did his part to sink Trump’s re-election campaign by lying about blacks having it better under Trump.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-91403569315200452292022-06-18T08:03:35.681-04:002022-06-18T08:03:35.681-04:00"...and instead focus on the rights of the tr..."...and instead focus on the rights of the transgendered"<br /><br />But what about the pedos? Marginalized liberal identity whose rights are routinely violated by right-wing pedophobe fascists. How many more must suffer?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-32729260099656905202022-06-18T07:25:10.898-04:002022-06-18T07:25:10.898-04:00I have a good idea. Let's completely ignore th...I have a good idea. Let's completely ignore the economic anxiety of the working class and instead focus on the rights of the transgendered. What could possibly go wrong?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-67851423292845228962022-06-18T07:22:34.417-04:002022-06-18T07:22:34.417-04:00The white liberals who run the Democratic party ar...The white liberals who run the Democratic party are happy to change your language and the way you refer to yourself and not address your economic issues. What ethnic group wouldn't get excited about that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-30362065816210441912022-06-18T07:21:06.442-04:002022-06-18T07:21:06.442-04:00Hispanics are so excited to leave the Democratic P...Hispanics are so excited to leave the Democratic Party.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-13626960763198978132022-06-18T07:20:34.972-04:002022-06-18T07:20:34.972-04:00"In a nationwide survey from December 2021, 4... "In a nationwide survey from December 2021, 40 percent of Hispanic voters said they found the term bothersome or offensive, and only 2 percent said they refer to themselves as Latinx."<br /><br />Liberals being in touch with an understanding Hispanics is one reason why Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-30858534748431989332022-06-18T04:49:48.406-04:002022-06-18T04:49:48.406-04:00Relax. If Hispanics were really leaving the Democ...Relax. If Hispanics were really leaving the Democratic Party, Republicans wouldn't be working overtime to suppress their votes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-30481343414122327132022-06-18T04:46:32.404-04:002022-06-18T04:46:32.404-04:00True, but is it Mao, Somerby, or both?True, but is it Mao, Somerby, or both?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-31323224292495870122022-06-18T00:00:06.851-04:002022-06-18T00:00:06.851-04:00All these comments about losng voters are coming f...All these comments about losng voters are coming from right wing trolls. More lies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-89321682732910107772022-06-17T22:30:10.933-04:002022-06-17T22:30:10.933-04:00Once you get Hispanics to realize that you don'...Once you get Hispanics to realize that you don't care about class issues and only pay them lip service, getting them to leave the party is child's play.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-51946291318376714232022-06-17T21:59:01.696-04:002022-06-17T21:59:01.696-04:00I don't get why Democrats are so upset about m...I don't get why Democrats are so upset about massively losing voters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-22352777242643453472022-06-17T21:46:04.095-04:002022-06-17T21:46:04.095-04:00The Democrats have plenty to worry about. From the...The Democrats have plenty to worry about. From the looks of things, the Democrats’ hold on Hispanic voters appears to be rapidly eroding. In the 2020 Democratic primaries, Bernie Sanders won Latinos over with a platform of Medicare for all and higher wages, lunch-bucket issues that resonate with Hispanics. You don't need to be a fortune teller: signs point to GOP landslide this year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-26156780496003598192022-06-17T20:25:34.981-04:002022-06-17T20:25:34.981-04:00Not sure the humor is intentional but I appreciate...<em>Not sure the humor is intentional but I appreciate the laugh offered by the notion that Dems and Repubs are the same but that only Dems are in trouble. Good one!</em><br /><br />Yes that was me, not to be confused with the other person you were responding to and it was meant to be sarcastic to point to the conflicting double talk they spew.<br /><br />These people are here for one purpose and that is to suppress the Dem vote by whatever means. Convince people that there is no difference between the two parties, while at the same time trying to demoralize us by claiming we're losing Hispanic and black voters. No, it doesn't have to make sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-67680273202245279392022-06-17T20:19:46.119-04:002022-06-17T20:19:46.119-04:00You don't understand, as David in Cal has repe...You don't understand, as David in Cal has repeatedly pointed out, Trump wanted the mob to "peacefully" hang Pence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-20972898965993404462022-06-17T18:35:22.217-04:002022-06-17T18:35:22.217-04:00Tolliver is not part of any press corps.Tolliver is not part of any press corps.Not a rodenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216459357112547141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-20612891436730823192022-06-17T18:31:57.623-04:002022-06-17T18:31:57.623-04:00Ac/ma is a troll, for example he actually misrepre...Ac/ma is a troll, for example he actually misrepresents the issue of the booklet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-1788899815536239722022-06-17T18:26:05.175-04:002022-06-17T18:26:05.175-04:00This guy comes around and makes his dumb brain dea...This guy comes around and makes his dumb brain dead defense of Somerby all the time. Btw did you notice Somerby changed his motto some time ago?<br /><br />New Media viewership dwarfs corporate media viewership. Take a look at Millennials, more than half support socialism, and it is trending upwards.<br /><br />Fox News' harm also dwarfs the harm done by less obvious corporate media outlets like CNN etc.<br /><br />Somerby burrows his way through mostly opinion and commentary pieces and nitpicks over trivial matters in such a way as to cater to right wing talking points and agendas.<br /><br />Dems, politicians and rank and file, may have some issues wrong. Maybe White people should always have more money than Black people, maybe quality of healthcare should be based on level of income, etc., but Somerby's main complaint is that we trigger right wing sensitivities too harshly. Brother, please.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-50717298082578231442022-06-17T18:12:28.649-04:002022-06-17T18:12:28.649-04:00Imagine a mob coming for Kamala Harris, and Biden,...Imagine a mob coming for Kamala Harris, and Biden, upon hearing that they want to hang her, responds by saying maybe they should. <br /><br />Yet Trump is a right wing hero. Right wingers are very dark people, with very dark and wounded hearts. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-71917348237397234072022-06-17T18:04:26.823-04:002022-06-17T18:04:26.823-04:00Dems are not losing a significant amount of Black ...Dems are not losing a significant amount of Black nor Latin voters, this notion, such as offered in that opinion piece, has been debunked already to the point that it is on you to spend 5 min on Google; to fall for such an obvious misleading right wing talking point also indicates a total misunderstanding of modern electoral politics, which is not about persuasion but about motivating your voters to actually vote (or suppressing your opposition).<br /><br />Not sure the humor is intentional but I appreciate the laugh offered by the notion that Dems and Repubs are the same but that only Dems are in trouble. Good one!<br /><br />Trump and the Republican Party belong to a movement based on oppression and wealth accumulation through oppression. Dems offer solutions to oppression, as well as a general progress towards a better society. So Somerby is completely wrong in his analysis. If Trump/Repubs win it is because they are better at motivating their voters, mostly for reasons inherent to their psychology, and they are better at suppressing opposition voters; all of this is achieved through corrupt means.<br /><br />Dems have issues, but not the ones Somerby suggests. Dems do need to focus more on class and race, need to continue to purge establishment neoliberals like Pelosi and Manchin, need to spend money on state and local races, need to do better organizing at a grassroots level. <br /><br />What we do not need to do is capitulate on right wing corruption and phony right wing grievance; anybody suggesting this strategy, like Somerby is, is either a moron or corrupt themselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-73742947046185754432022-06-17T18:00:05.005-04:002022-06-17T18:00:05.005-04:00AC/MA -- why are you wasting time arguing with a t...AC/MA -- why are you wasting time arguing with a troll?Not a rodenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216459357112547141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-70577806002876964462022-06-17T17:58:31.745-04:002022-06-17T17:58:31.745-04:00Somerby is today accusing the Democrats of trying ...Somerby is today accusing the Democrats of trying to take Trump out of the 2024 election by putting him in jail over the crimes uncovered by the 1/6 committee. He is speculating that the real motive of the hearings is not justice or accountability but partisan political expediency. He offers no evidence in support of this claim.<br /><br />Somerby is ignoring that it is Republicans who are testifying against Trump, Republicans providing the evidence of his crimes. Trump's own attorney's, campaign manager, VP and staff are testifying against him. Somerby is also ignoring that the 1/6 hearing is about an insurrection, an attempted coup, treason and failure to adhere to his oath by the president himself. Those are very serious accusations and the crimes are against our democracy and the American people. Somerby instead pretends that this is red tribe/blue tribe political maneuvering. Somerby is very wrong about that -- wrong about how Democrats feel about what is happening, and wrong about how many Republicans are coming to feel about Trump and his actions. Trump may not have a shot in hell of gaining the nomination, after the people hear fully what he did. Reelection will be the least of his problems.Not a rodenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216459357112547141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-14602501236458138352022-06-17T17:53:41.209-04:002022-06-17T17:53:41.209-04:00“Dr. Bandy X. Lee got fired by Yale, and has never...“Dr. Bandy X. Lee got fired by Yale, and has never been heard from again!”<br /><br />The exclamation point is a dead giveaway that Somerby knows he’s being stupid. <br /><br />She got fired for tweeting about Alan Dershowitz. (https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/12/the-yale-professor-fired-for-tweeting-about-alan-dershowitz.html)<br /><br />She is in favor of prosecuting Trump. She tweeted this recently:<br /><br />“We fear “criminalizing a past president” might make us look like a backward dictatorship, not realizing that “exonerating a criminal” does the same. Democracies hold criminals accountable and exonerate innocents, without regard to how it might look.”<br /><br />She has a website. https://bandylee.com/<br /><br />She has contributed to the “Refuse Fascism” podcast. She has appeared with the anti-Trump Lincoln Project. <br /><br />She has a new book out: “Profile of a Nation: Trump’s Mind, America’s Soul”<br /><br />You have to choose not to listen or ignore the internet in order to pretend that she’s never been heard from again. Why would Somerby even want to hear from her again? She doesn’t agree with Somerby’s views on what to do about Trump. mhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-18689139139159323022022-06-17T17:52:49.339-04:002022-06-17T17:52:49.339-04:00Of course Democrats have a political solution to T...Of course Democrats have a political solution to Trump winning in 2024. Their solution is to get out the Democratic vote and defeat him, as occurred in 2020. It will be easier in 2024 since Trump will be prosecuted and more voters will have seen these hearings. Not a rodenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216459357112547141noreply@blogger.com