tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post8645459837027169966..comments2024-03-18T21:40:50.861-04:00Comments on the daily howler: The Gaetz situation just isn't complex...<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-84810940215657772002021-08-17T10:38:07.858-04:002021-08-17T10:38:07.858-04:00golden goose
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Is it really possible that you don’t understand how tense works in English? Somerby is saying that there’s no way of knowing right at this point in time, at the moment when he wrote the post above, whether or not Gaetz has committed a crime. Believe it or not, Somerby is fully aware of how investigations work, and of the reasons somebody might launch one.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09411393256656761429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-5958815403055044942021-04-02T17:44:56.656-04:002021-04-02T17:44:56.656-04:00Bob never defended Roy Moore. He punched big holes...Bob never defended Roy Moore. He punched big holes in the case against Moore, such as the idea (horror of horrors!) that teenage girls and women in their early 20s actually WILLINGLY dated older guys.<br /><br />Which -- I can barely type this out -- they did. Damn me to hell, yes!<br /><br />Pay for your girlfriend's plane ticket? You're a trafficker!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-78635822058947449602021-04-02T17:40:56.399-04:002021-04-02T17:40:56.399-04:00Bob never defended Roy Moore. He punched big holes...Bob never defended Roy Moore. He punched big holes in the case against Moore, such as the idea (horror of horrors!) that teenage girls and women in their early 20s back then actually WILLINGLY dated older guys.<br /><br />Which -- I can barely type this out -- they did. Damn me to hell, yes!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-23888590624443805542021-04-02T12:39:53.792-04:002021-04-02T12:39:53.792-04:00Career centrist DC insider has no more fucks to gi...Career centrist DC insider has no more fucks to give and becomes wildly successful doing right by the people.<br /><br />I doubted the guy, I was wrong.<br /><br />Just by ignoring 40 years of GQP lies and all their bullshit "rules" the country is reborn and given back to the people.Voice of reasonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-6407572018533874612021-04-02T12:32:18.685-04:002021-04-02T12:32:18.685-04:00Biden riding high governing for "we the peopl...Biden riding high governing for "we the people" and not the oligarchs and takers.<br /><br />HahahahahaVoice of reasonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-8017506900030915012021-04-02T12:29:04.916-04:002021-04-02T12:29:04.916-04:00Nunez just got dinged for cnn's legal fees ove...Nunez just got dinged for cnn's legal fees over his nuisance law suits. Voice of reasonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-55483597405512034202021-04-02T12:13:20.154-04:002021-04-02T12:13:20.154-04:00Gaetz is going away for years.
He was pimping out ...Gaetz is going away for years.<br />He was pimping out minors (young ladies to somerby) and looks to have been involved or at least aware an identity fraud scam run by his American Psycho buddy.<br />Wonder how his 40 yr old fratboy MAGA troll act will play with the real gangsters?Voice of reasonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-65318733199593848172021-04-02T12:04:45.976-04:002021-04-02T12:04:45.976-04:00If any substantial part of the allegations are not...If any substantial part of the allegations are not completely debunked, Gaetz is likely to be publicly discredited long before he is indicted for any actual crime, let alone convicted. It has never been the practice of the media to withhold discussion of such allegations until the matter has gone completely through the legal system and there is no real reason why they should. Journalists and citizens are also entitled to their own opinions about guilt, whether in a strictly legal sense or just according to their own morality, regardless of what a jury may eventually decide.skeptonomisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14867814619333835249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-55544564444932838972021-04-02T11:58:44.444-04:002021-04-02T11:58:44.444-04:00Gaetz turns out to be another "tough on drugs...Gaetz turns out to be another "tough on drugs" junkie.<br /><br />Humyn garbage just like mao, Franklin Graham, Jerry Falwell Jr & sr.Mao Fucksticknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-78465892625977969382021-04-02T10:03:56.504-04:002021-04-02T10:03:56.504-04:00I ate so many baked beans last night, it looked li...I ate so many baked beans last night, it looked like the Republican National Convention was taking place in my toilet this morning.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-76003659372102466992021-04-02T00:40:07.887-04:002021-04-02T00:40:07.887-04:00Meanwhile, the latest online ABC news story on Ga...Meanwhile, the latest online ABC news story on Gaetz suggests that he is likely screwed. So sad! Unamusedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12797048949815076506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-76784752614767066472021-04-02T00:32:05.690-04:002021-04-02T00:32:05.690-04:00“At present, there’s no way to know if he’s actual...“At present, there’s no way to know if he’s actually committed a crime.” I am with Bob on this one. As far as I am concerned, from his other activities, Gaetz is human sewage. That will not change for me, irrespective of whether he is criminal here. Writing columns when the story is half baked makes for criticism from the likes of Bob. It gives him easy fodder, and he too has space that needs to be to filled on his blog. So it all works out.Unamusedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12797048949815076506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-16655983056410291602021-04-01T20:57:56.006-04:002021-04-01T20:57:56.006-04:00If you look a little closer my friend, you might b...If you look a little closer my friend, you might be pleasantly surprised.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-24849190589689508842021-04-01T20:33:17.817-04:002021-04-01T20:33:17.817-04:00Somerby defended Roy Moore, Ron Johnson, Devin Nun...Somerby defended Roy Moore, Ron Johnson, Devin Nunes. Now he seems terribly concerned about defending Matt Gaetz. Not surprising, Somerby is a Trumptard, and will defend other Trumptards. Centristnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-24116249633089575642021-04-01T20:29:48.600-04:002021-04-01T20:29:48.600-04:00Gaetz is a piece of human garbage just like Mao.
L...Gaetz is a piece of human garbage just like Mao.<br />Let him twist in the wind as his depravity is brought to light.<br /><br />Mao cheng goebbelsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-88767557500290169182021-04-01T19:28:06.301-04:002021-04-01T19:28:06.301-04:00Here is the rest of what Dahlia Lithwick said. It ...Here is the rest of what Dahlia Lithwick said. It applies especially to the bilge that Somerby has been posting lately:<br /><br />"Part of the joy in being free of Donald Trump’s near-hourly reminders that nothing was true unless he sanctioned it, and that everything was a plot to entrap and ensnare him by shadowy enemies who were forever plotting his demise, lay in the hope that things might become concrete again. Science is back. Candor is back. Facts are rallying back. Maybe journalism could return to reporting truth as opposed to adjudicating it. And yet it’s now clear that the morally bankrupt and the legitimately awful will still always find ways to fight truth with derangement, and that the crazier their claims prove, the more likely they will be to find a receptive audience on both right-wing media and the national umbrage industrial complex. As long as such people hold political office, the press will be forced to engage with their farcical fever dreams, and the public will be made to pour out their mornings wondering who Matt Gaetz is, and why he matters, and whether indeed shadowy Justice Department officials are going around extorting the entire Gaetz clan for $25 million.<br /><br />Don’t shoot the messenger, America. We hate this shit as much as you do. There’s a simple solution—never electing another professional fabricator again—but that train may have left the station. In the meantime, you are not alone. And the best thing to do when prevaricating fraudsters lie to you is not to doubt your sanity or to slide under the torpor of “who can know” hopelessness. Instead, recall that this is the plan, muck out the shit. Reorient, sigh, rinse, and repeat."<br /><br />Note the phrase "slide under the torpor of 'who can know hopelessness'. That is exactly what Somerby is peddling here. On purpose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-31061014399266864842021-04-01T19:23:32.707-04:002021-04-01T19:23:32.707-04:00This essay is perhaps an elaborate April 1 hoax by...This essay is perhaps an elaborate April 1 hoax by Somerby!<br /><br />What a sense of humor!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-14340504822254957802021-04-01T18:25:23.450-04:002021-04-01T18:25:23.450-04:00Somerby, always demanding we wait for evidence dam...Somerby, always demanding we wait for evidence dammit:<br /><br />‘News flash! "Ukrainegate" is going to look that way [like Nixonian levels of corruption] to a lot of people:<br /><br />They'll wonder why an all-around "Fredo" like Hunter Biden was ever offered "a lucrative seat on the board of a company called Burisma, which is a major energy company in Ukraine." <br />...<br />They'll assume that some slippery motives were involved somewhere in the mix. <i>It's hard to assume that such an assumption is wrong</i>.’<br />http://dailyhowler.blogspot.com/2019/09/impeachment-is-right-around-corner-again.htmlmhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08937133532381705347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-39921303499134931652021-04-01T18:14:37.807-04:002021-04-01T18:14:37.807-04:00“It's been reported that Gaetz is being invest...“It's been reported that Gaetz is being investigated for a possible crime. As of now, he hasn't been charged with a crime. It's possible that he'll never be charged with a crime. At present, there's no way to know if he's actually committed a crime.”<br /><br />Almost as concise as Matt Gaetz’ own version of events. <br /><br />Almost, if “concise” meant verbose, loony, self-owning nonsense. <br /><br />And this makes two Somerby posts about Gaetz in one day, three total. mhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08937133532381705347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-77961711187602490972021-04-01T18:09:24.659-04:002021-04-01T18:09:24.659-04:00Atrios says:
[If] "He flew a minor(s) across...Atrios says:<br /><br />[If] "He flew a minor(s) across state lines from a state where she was not legally able to consent to a state where she was. Still a federal crime!"<br /><br />Also a crime if he used campaign funds to pay the travel expenses.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-18119680552340298262021-04-01T18:03:20.886-04:002021-04-01T18:03:20.886-04:00https://www.orlandosentinel.com/politics/os-ne-who...https://www.orlandosentinel.com/politics/os-ne-who-is-joel-greenberg-matt-gaetz-20210331-kfebgrmiezal7j6jx5s7vzky7e-story.htmlMao botnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-56747821566696094842021-04-01T17:50:07.437-04:002021-04-01T17:50:07.437-04:00"Matt Gaetz hasn't been charged with a cr..."Matt Gaetz hasn't been charged with a crime. At this time, no one has made that allegation. There's no way to know, at this time, if he's even committed a crime."<br /><br />I'll bet Somerby would say the same thing about Officer Chauvin, despite the evidence of bystanders and bodycam video.<br /><br />There is evidence related to Gaetz too. Investigators will find it. They may work out a plea deal involving his resignation from Congress, or they may decide to charge him, but saying there is no way to know what he did is just flat wrong. <br /><br />No one moves through this world without leaving a ripple and that ripple is evidence. Official investigators are looking and they will find that evidence and we will know about Gaetz. Rachel will tell us. Why else does Somerby think Gaetz is freaking out?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com