tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post8687625575342599761..comments2024-03-29T06:09:09.845-04:00Comments on the daily howler: COMEY'S GIRL: The basic questions Kaplan raised!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-32874600901897073582016-12-09T09:48:34.616-05:002016-12-09T09:48:34.616-05:00@11:40 - You painting all men with such a broad br...@11:40 - You painting all men with such a broad brush makes you ignorant. Hope you like convincing your choir, because your forcing attitudes that many of us men don't have down our throats, won't allow you to convince us of your ideas.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-65782864829824521692016-12-09T07:13:43.500-05:002016-12-09T07:13:43.500-05:00"......As rare and uninteresting as their dis...<em>"......As rare and uninteresting as their discussions of such material were, they shouldn’t have done any of it on a private email server."</em><br /><br /><br />You see, here is the point that Kaplan doesn't explain. The exact same thing could be said about it being generated from the state.gov system, which is not to be used for classified material. The state.gov system was an unsecured system and had been hacked numerous times already. Everything that was retroactively classified was generated by career State Department personnel who understood the restrictions on using state.gov to send classified information, and these persons, when interviewed by the FBI, disagreed with the other agencies conclusions that the material was classified.<br /><br />Secretary of State Hillary Clinton used the standard secured system (SCIF) in place when she was dealing with classified information, and everybody knew this. There was never any intent on her part to use her personal email to communicate classified information.<br /><br /><br />mmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-80247338205702765412016-12-09T00:07:15.807-05:002016-12-09T00:07:15.807-05:002:44 you are only correct in that your quote from ...2:44 you are only correct in that your quote from Kaplan makes little sense. Read the Kaplan article. Kaplan uses the article to demonstrate Clinton was not careless. 2:44 how do square the thrust of Kaplan's article with the contradicting quote you use? Indeed, there is no indication that Clinton handled any classified information on her private server. According to Clinton, the emails referenced by Comey were not marked as classified, and Comey himself was obtuse on this subject. 2:44 how do you square all this? Or did you in fact not read Comey's statement? Not read Kaplan's article?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-67270974610439892152016-12-08T23:40:57.555-05:002016-12-08T23:40:57.555-05:00Right, we should be happy it exists at all, never ...Right, we should be happy it exists at all, never mind its funding level. When we must depend on men you get a high infant mortality rate.<br /><br />Drum is wrong. It isn't a horror story. It is a tragedy. The emotion is sadness. What is wrong with you guys?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-70640389155747195382016-12-08T22:08:49.290-05:002016-12-08T22:08:49.290-05:00"Men...don't care about funding WIC"..."Men...don't care about funding WIC"<br />Idiot @ 8:54<br /><br />"WIC was formally created by an amendment to section 17 of the Child Nutrition Act of 1966 on September 26, 1972.[5] The legislation (P.L. 92-433, sponsored by Senator Hubert Humphrey (D) of Minnesota)"<br /><br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WIC#History<br /><br />Last I checked Hubert Humphrey was, while alive, a man. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-19193155164631837352016-12-08T22:00:22.733-05:002016-12-08T22:00:22.733-05:00" It's a horror story"
Kevin Drum
..." It's a horror story" <br />Kevin Drum<br /><br />"Drum's tone was so disinterested"<br />Idiot @ 8:54Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-54881479521570048232016-12-08T20:54:34.870-05:002016-12-08T20:54:34.870-05:00Politics is gendered. Men have most of the power a...Politics is gendered. Men have most of the power and they don't care about funding WIC or Planned Parenthood. To them, infant mortality rates are not about suffering and grief, they are about statistics. Drum's tone was so disinterested that it was offensive. Women need to be heard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-89445458950547732522016-12-08T18:15:45.578-05:002016-12-08T18:15:45.578-05:00As a father I find the two previous commenters to ...As a father I find the two previous commenters to be captives of gender identity politics. The commenter to whom they responded never said fathers were important to infant mortality. He said that <strong>infant mortality rate</strong> was not a women's issue.<br /><br />The original comment was way off topic, in my view.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-51810196960739730172016-12-08T18:05:38.861-05:002016-12-08T18:05:38.861-05:00Or he (she) could be accusing Bob of calling a tre...Or he (she) could be accusing Bob of calling a tree a snail. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-24654240546370867612016-12-08T17:29:04.833-05:002016-12-08T17:29:04.833-05:00Of course I could be wrong but I think you have a ...Of course I could be wrong but I think you have a problem seeing the forest for the trees.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-88084527361310999972016-12-08T17:00:11.359-05:002016-12-08T17:00:11.359-05:00It will be seen as a politically motivated retalia...It will be seen as a politically motivated retaliation, not as a justified firing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-32370169627759771032016-12-08T16:57:23.654-05:002016-12-08T16:57:23.654-05:00From a Stanford report, the 5 main causes are:
bir...From a Stanford report, the 5 main causes are:<br />birth defects, SIDS, maternal health complications, unintentional injuries, and preterm-related causes of death. Of these, only unintentional injuries are not related to maternal health, and that too can be complicated by things like drug abuse. According to the study, the biggest difference between the US and Europe is premature births. Premature babies are more susceptible to infections and illness. <br /><br />Risk factors for premature birth are: smoking and drinking, infections, high blood pressure or diabetes, substance abuse, stress and environmental factors related to sociology (e.g., poverty).<br /><br />Women need to be lawmakers, bloggers and participate in decision making in business because men just don't understand issues affecting them, including whoever suggested that Dads are important to infant mortality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-12385477656966304092016-12-08T16:42:46.252-05:002016-12-08T16:42:46.252-05:00Here is the part you left out, where he talks abou...Here is the part you left out, where he talks about life expectancy:<br /><br />"I wonder how they calculate that? They're basically predicting death rates around the year 2100, and it hardly seems likely they can do this. My understanding is that it's based on age-specific death rates prevailing for the current year, but what makes anyone think those death rates will remain the same for the next 80 years?"<br /><br />Then he goes on to examine death rates right now and presents a graph.<br /><br />When you juxtapose "I wonder how they calculate that" with subsequent discussion of a death rate, it implies an artifact.<br /><br />He offers no other explanation.<br /><br />Fathers are important only after a baby is born, but the mother is the key figure up to and including birth. Most infant deaths occur at birth or as a result of complications or birth defects and disorders related to prenatal health of the mother and care of the mother during pregnancy.<br /><br />Dads can certainly help by supporting and paying their share of expenses related to pregnancy and birth, but they don't have the babies. The contribution of accidents and illness following birth to the infant mortality rate is smaller.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-58244282631833462392016-12-08T16:32:11.634-05:002016-12-08T16:32:11.634-05:00In addition to freeing ever more low level drug in...In addition to freeing ever more low level drug inmates, now that the election is perhaps over, he should ask for Comey's resignation.Bartmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06809097953780642925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-56010449925976336382016-12-08T16:29:29.694-05:002016-12-08T16:29:29.694-05:00Please stop calling us 'Surely"Please stop calling us 'Surely"Bartmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06809097953780642925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-20048509046343776292016-12-08T15:24:22.942-05:002016-12-08T15:24:22.942-05:00Surely by now you should know that whatever protes...Surely by now you should know that whatever protestations she made above and beyond her response would have been pounced on. As in Hamlet: "Methinks the lady doth protest too much."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-73963582693685329442016-12-08T15:19:18.698-05:002016-12-08T15:19:18.698-05:00Drum did not argue or imply a cause for the 1.3% i...Drum did not argue or imply a cause for the 1.3% increase in infant mortality in his post, much less even mention statistical artifacts.<br /><br />His entire comment on this subject was shorter than your comment:<br /><br />"Infant mortality in the US is already far higher than it is in the rest of the developed world. It's under 450 in France, Germany, and Britain, for example, and under 350 in Italy, Japan, and Norway. The only OECD countries with higher infant mortality rates have per-capita incomes less than half ours.<br /><br />To make things worse, the rate of infant mortality among blacks is double what it is among whites and Hispanics. It's a horror story—and apparently it's getting worse. How is this possible?"<br /><br />You should get into the fake news business.<br /><br />And talk to a father to get a clue why the infant mortality rate is not a "women's issue."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-76301527481526828442016-12-08T14:44:09.851-05:002016-12-08T14:44:09.851-05:00"...the possibility that Comey's accusati..."...the possibility that Comey's accusations were bogus, unfounded, deceptive, wrong. But that's what Slate's Fred Kaplan basically said in a July 6 report..."<br /><br />So writes Bob Somerby today, reinforcing previous posts on Comey and Kaplan's review of his statement.<br /><br />That statement, to use Bob's own phrase from this post "came close to being a lie." No, wait. It actually doesn't come close. It is a lie.<br /><br />What Kaplan said about Comey was this:<br /><br />"Ignore his self-righteous, scolding tone. Read the facts he’s uncovered, place them in context, and the conclusion is inescapable: As Gertrude Stein once said of Oakland, California, there’s no there there."<br /><br />Kaplan never called, suggested, or implied, nor did he remotely "basically" say anything Comey said was<br />"bogus, unfounded, deceptive, wrong." He said the findings were no big deal.<br /><br />The bulk of his criticism was of press coverage of Comey's statement which he implied had problems for going beyond what Comey found and stated. Then he said this about Comey:<br /><br />"The FBI director was certainly right in saying that Clinton and her colleagues were “extremely careless” in their handling of classified information. As rare and uninteresting as their discussions of such material were, they shouldn’t have done any of it on a private email server."<br /><br />Somerby begins this post with the very words Comey used with which Kaplan chose to highlight his agreement. Somerby disappearesd that fact. <br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-48466201130140447262016-12-08T13:19:55.369-05:002016-12-08T13:19:55.369-05:00She said the right stuff. Surprise, surprise, no o...She said the right stuff. Surprise, surprise, no one listened to her. Repeating herself would have sounded defensive. She cannot win. Her campaign did push back.<br /><br />Typically they received questions worded in biased ways, such as "Why did you think it was a good idea to let your staff send classified emails via a private server?" Where do you start to correct that in a sound bite?<br /><br />I think she should never have apologized, but then she would have been called more names. Look what happened to John Kerry when he tried to explain the circumstances around his military service and Vietnam war dissent. Complex issues cannot be explain in 10 seconds and when you try, it makes things worse.<br /><br />The candidate provided plenty of info on her webpage and she equipped her surrogates with the facts. She can't do more than that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-75097091695598647282016-12-08T13:15:32.491-05:002016-12-08T13:15:32.491-05:00Kevin Drum is trying to talk about women's iss...Kevin Drum is trying to talk about women's issues again. He really should either give that up or talk about things first with someone female.<br /><br />Why is infant mortality up? He implies it is a statistical artifact. His commenters (so far) refer to lead in water and poverty.<br /><br />More obvious causes are (1) the increase in drug abuse, especially heroin and pain killers, (2) increased diabetes and pre-diabetes. Pregnancy doesn't prevent addicted women from using drugs and drug use may increase the likelihood of unwanted pregnancy. It does interfere with prenatal care, especially if they don't want their abuse to be found out and thus avoid it.<br /><br />Diabetes is a risk factor for complications during pregnancy. Pre-diabetes and undiagnosed diabetes also. With poor eating habits there is increased chances of developing diabetes during pregnancy. <br /><br />Obamacare should have worked against inadequate prenatal care and improved preventive child care. If the trend is opposite to that, there is something strong going on.<br /><br />Arguing statistical artifact makes Kevin Drum sound like the world's biggest idiot. It makes him sound tone-deaf totally about the things that affect women and children.<br /><br />He needs to get a clue before he reels off these stupid posts off the top of his head. He could have asked any woman and gotten a better explanation than what he proposed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-72707252153191651792016-12-08T13:06:01.854-05:002016-12-08T13:06:01.854-05:00I think you make the case that there should have b...I think you make the case that there should have been more pushback by the "Liberal" media to Comey's claims - but what was the candidate's pushback to this whole issue? The quoted statement is much better than what I recall her saying in the debates, which basically amounted to "I made a mistake, I take responsibility, let's talk about something else." Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-33910895089795676932016-12-08T13:02:32.535-05:002016-12-08T13:02:32.535-05:00Chris Matthews is not a liberal. He makes many sta...Chris Matthews is not a liberal. He makes many statements daily that are conservative, in line with conservative concerns and opinions. Yet, because of MSNBC's temporary rebranding, he is treated as if he were liberal, just as Mika is a nominal liberal. Maddow's fawning over Chris Matthews encourages listeners to believe Chris Matthews is expressing liberal opinions when he is plainly not.<br /><br />Yes, people should all be independent thinkers and should be able to evaluate the content of what someone says, no matter who is talking. But in the real world it doesn't work that way. By mislabeling pundits, MSNBC contributes to a kind of false endorsement of views that are far from consensus liberal opinion. I hate this about Chris Matthews and about Rachel Maddow, separate from their styles.<br /><br />Fox listeners get reliably conservative commentary. Why cannot we expect the same thing from "our" channels? It means there is no balance across stations, no balance to be found in the media. Add the NY Times to this mix and once again the supposedly liberal print media is far from liberal, especially when it routinely trashed Clinton just because of animosity toward her, not even because she was Clinton (to the left of Obama and Sanders (in everything except labeling). If we cannot do proper branding how will we compete against someone like Trump who is about nothing but branding?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com