tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post8747276552881891430..comments2024-03-29T02:22:59.827-04:00Comments on the daily howler: What Gregory Hicks really said about Susan Rice!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-89949587955181912182017-05-23T05:44:14.689-04:002017-05-23T05:44:14.689-04:00ray ban sunglasses
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This is garbage and this site is becoming garbage. The Anonymous who wrote that the four names (Stevens, Smith, Doherty and Woods) need to be stated is correct. That's what we're talking about, no Hiroshima. <br />I'm getting real tired of the idiots who lie and lose their ethics because they're trying to defend "their side." And Bob Somerby's falling into that trap as well. He is a vast disappointment and obsessed with the trivial.Brandonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-55043528694923933532013-05-22T05:29:02.006-04:002013-05-22T05:29:02.006-04:00Fantastic site you have here but I was wondering i...Fantastic site you have here but I was wondering if you knew of any forums that cover the same topics discussed in <br />this article? I'd really love to be a part of online community where I can get comments from other knowledgeable individuals that share the same interest. If you have any recommendations, please let me know. Thank you!<br /><br />Feel free to surf to my weblog: <a href="http://superhoops.org/index.php?do=/profile-24745/info/" rel="nofollow">diet plans for women</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-77679285589392687582013-05-15T08:09:31.240-04:002013-05-15T08:09:31.240-04:00If you have to travel through time to know it'...If you have to travel through time to know it's right, then you're the one who's confused.<br /><br />Or maybe you should give us all the keys to your time machine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-72375293844114118982013-05-14T14:31:32.292-04:002013-05-14T14:31:32.292-04:00Here's all the meaning you need, Republican to...Here's all the meaning you need, Republican tool. I don't care if Hick's reply IS political, or even if he has an axe to grind. I mind that it is laughable nonsense, so tranparently and cynically trumped up to get the guy a deal with Regency Books and Fox News that he might as well be taking a dump on the graves of the five people he's pretending to care about. And may that ring in your ears every time you see him pick up an easy grand for being on Hannidy.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-81686491203278474062013-05-14T14:04:10.376-04:002013-05-14T14:04:10.376-04:00There are some who only care about American deaths...There are some who only care about American deaths, and see non-Americans as not worth counting. These are the true donkeys in the room.<br /><br />Do you know the names of the 70,000 people who were killed instantly in Hiroshima?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-90289428439288334092013-05-14T01:51:55.036-04:002013-05-14T01:51:55.036-04:00I always know who the ass in a discussion about th...I always know who the ass in a discussion about the dead when they reduce them to "four Americans." Because if you honestly cared about the topic, cared about the attack, you'd know their names. Bob Somerby doesn't care and never bothers to mention them. We're lucky if he throws out Ambassador Chris Stevens. Along with Stevens, the dead are Glen Doherty, Sean Smith and Tyrone Woods. But I guess naming the dead, putting faces on them, might harm the parlor games played here of Democrat versus Republican. <br />This is really is disgusting, all of this, and it goes to just how immature and dumb our society is. Bob Somerby needs to find another topic if he can't right about the dead without some level of grace. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-64115965819540419512013-05-13T23:09:19.841-04:002013-05-13T23:09:19.841-04:00What's the logic here? All people who depart f...What's the logic here? All people who depart from talking points are fools? No, that's not it....All people who think other people should depart from inaccurate CIA/State Dept talking points are fools...yeah, that's it.<br /><br />Implying that the Ambassador to Libya would have called somebody about a demonstration in front of the poorly secured consulate/CIA post where he is stranded also makes one a fool. Hmmm. <br /><br />Do you actually write this stuff while sober?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-50332072070508837032013-05-13T22:55:27.558-04:002013-05-13T22:55:27.558-04:00"
So, when we were "before" that &q..."<br />So, when we were "before" that "after," Rice should have said what a Libyan said, and not what official US intelligence said, because later US intelligence would turn out to be wrong! "<br /><br />You seem confused. Do you know the difference between right and wrong? Here's a hint: you want to pick the right answer, not the wrong one. Even if the wrong one is pretty and shiny. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-27140705023135588332013-05-13T19:23:07.320-04:002013-05-13T19:23:07.320-04:00And given the inconvenient fact that Obama called ...And given the inconvenient fact that Obama called Benghazi an "act of terror," Issa is stuck with the argument, his only argument, that an "act of terror" is different from a "terrorist attack." Which hair he skillfully split today.<br /><br />No wonder that a PPP poll shows that 49% of those surveyed trust Clinton on the matter while only 37% trust Congressional Republicans.<br /><br />Go figure.deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-64925030090662934592013-05-13T19:14:07.779-04:002013-05-13T19:14:07.779-04:00Don't hold your breath waiting for a meaningfu...Don't hold your breath waiting for a meaningful reply. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-70650567233027599152013-05-13T17:16:40.596-04:002013-05-13T17:16:40.596-04:00Why conclude that Hicks' approach to Rice is &...Why conclude that Hicks' approach to Rice is "political", rather than being indicative of the priorities and concerns that are the job descriptions of career diplomats and other State Dept denizens? <br /><br />It's rational that Hicks would criticize Ambassador Rice and their fellow superiors upon THAT basis. <br /><br />We certainly know that it was well within the ability of the State Dept, tp push back against what they believed to be a false or dodgy official assessment from ithe CIA. Why wouldn't a professional diplomat hold another professional diplomat accountable for going out and mouthing a narrative that in Hicks (not inexperienced) opinion undermined the very work they were trying to accomplish in Libya.<br />CeceliaMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16017255006204800193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-32450079459233225872013-05-13T15:25:37.470-04:002013-05-13T15:25:37.470-04:00David in CA on this one, PattyMo and shooter242 on...David in CA on this one, PattyMo and shooter242 on Kevin Drum, etc. My guess is they are all paid Young Republicans sporting bow-ties in some GOP basement.KISSWebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13917779875188133814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-40868240498325411472013-05-13T15:23:17.213-04:002013-05-13T15:23:17.213-04:00And once again, David lies by pretending Rice did ...And once again, David lies by pretending Rice did not expressly say to Bob Schieffer that there could have been al Qaeda involvement in the attacks. That fact, along with her endlessly repeated disclaimers that everything she was saying was preliminary and therefore could be proved wring after investigation, completely demolishes the Sunday talk show critique.urban legendnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-77832464791023467742013-05-13T15:16:16.942-04:002013-05-13T15:16:16.942-04:00Talking as if Rice should have departed from the t...Talking as if Rice should have departed from the talking points approved by the CIA and the State Department and agree with the President of Libya is acting like a fool. So is implying that Stevens would have been expected to say the attack was preceded by a demonstration at the very moment the facility is under attack. Having your "jaw drop" at standard bureaucratic talk with multiple disclaimers is acting like a fool for someone who has been in government for one year, much less 21. Not answering two phone calls from the ambassador -- the chief officer of the mission in the country -- sounds like acting like a fool, but we can be generous and reserve judgment pending a better explanation on that one. (Would you ignore two calls on a weekend from the President of your company's division operating in a difficult and crisis-prone environment because you wanted to watch a TV show?) <br /><br />Yes, he says why Hicks behaved like a fool. If you think he didn't then you're lying to yourself if not to everyone else.urban legendnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-82649401717687097532013-05-13T11:16:08.948-04:002013-05-13T11:16:08.948-04:00DAinCA, Yeah, dontcha just love The New Yorker'...DAinCA, Yeah, dontcha just love <i>The New Yorker</i>'s outstanding writing? And how about that "pretty" liberal slant? Great stuff. Now, ordinarily you wouldn't credit a thing that outstanding, pretty magazine says, but now that you've found a criticism of the administration, you're apparently a subscriber for life.<br /><br />Here's what the article actually says: In the struggle between the CIA and the State Department to explain a disaster in which an ambassador was killed, drafts of public announcements ("talking points") changed. Apparently the sentence “[W]e do know that Islamic extremists with ties to al-Qa’ida participated in the attack.” was replaced by “There are indications that extremists participated in the violent demonstrations.”<br /><br />Did you actually read the article? 'Cause that's your whole scandal.<br />deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-31910039705644073592013-05-13T09:55:08.552-04:002013-05-13T09:55:08.552-04:00Not so much...
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-d...Not so much...<br /><br />http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/05/heres-why-benghazi-may-finally-have-legshardindrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05275899305949454964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-55411023792570736882013-05-13T09:43:34.995-04:002013-05-13T09:43:34.995-04:00David in Ca's link to the New Yorker Hack'...David in Ca's link to the New Yorker Hack's nonsense is significant in that there has been so little of this kind of Whitewater bullshit thus far going around. If you thought Obama's claims to transparency ment that the C.I.A. would now be run like Billy Jack's Freedom School you could be outraged, I guess..... Liberals used to speculate that right wing trolls were on think tank payrolls and hopped on sites to cause mischief. In David in Ca's case the notion is comforting, can you imagine this guy who obviously lives in some sort of Newsmax chat room sputtering out this hocum without compensation? Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-78262837049550562392013-05-13T07:35:44.644-04:002013-05-13T07:35:44.644-04:00Yes, it's as stupid as it gets.
And it will ...Yes, it's as stupid as it gets. <br /><br />And it will continue, of course. And, unimaginably, it will somehow get stupider.<br /><br />"Especially after the American sources are proved unreliable."<br /><br />HILARIOUS STUPIDITY!<br /><br />"after!!!" <br /><br />So, when we were "before" that "after," Rice should have said what a Libyan said, and not what official US intelligence said, because later US intelligence would turn out to be wrong!<br /><br />Rice should have contradicted the official US intelligence "before," by guessing that it would be incorrect, "after"!<br /><br />Time-traveling trolls for the win!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-18850732823746079632013-05-13T06:33:35.552-04:002013-05-13T06:33:35.552-04:00Hicks was being as dishonestly honest as he felt h...Hicks was being as dishonestly honest as he felt he could pass on. Hick's anti-Obama passion was barely beneath the surface or subtle. Hick's behavior was that of a typical BSer in the military. He appeared to be having a real kick playing the role of an insider on the attack in Benghazi.<br /><br />The four Americans who were killed were,.. guess what... they were in a war zone. People are killed in war zones. Former secretary Bill Gates said that the media coverage was "cartoonish",due to its unrealistic expectation of the military's impossible ability to respond to a situation on such short notice with no troops on the ground.<br /><br />For being the party that did not prevent 9-11, one might suspect that republicans would be more circumspect, but instead they choose to embarrass us all with a waste of time and taxes trying to scare up a scandal where there was none. Yes, there was human imperfection at play, but that is not a scandal, it's a reality.gcwallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07990785263482839943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-21804015207624290242013-05-13T01:56:05.482-04:002013-05-13T01:56:05.482-04:00urban legend, deadrat, gravymeister -- Aside from ...urban legend, deadrat, gravymeister -- Aside from its outstanding writing, the New Yorker has a pretty liberal slant in its political articles. This <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2013/05/benghazi-cia-talking-point-edits-white-house.html?mobify=0" rel="nofollow">New Yorker article</a> answers your questions and responds to your comments. David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-61955162975238372742013-05-13T00:09:40.973-04:002013-05-13T00:09:40.973-04:00TDH never says why Hicks behaved like a fool.
TD...TDH never says why Hicks behaved like a fool. <br /><br />TDH is very upset that Hicks doesn't answer his phone (on calls from unknown numbers) promptly on every call. TDH then pretends that Ambassador Stevens couldn't call anyone else in world except Hicks to tell them about the "demonstration," but sane people don't believe that. Did anyone else in Washington get a call from Stevens about the "demonstration?"<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-8872907640803369662013-05-12T23:56:00.737-04:002013-05-12T23:56:00.737-04:00The point was that TDH ridicules the idea of Rice ...The point was that TDH ridicules the idea of Rice taking her brief from the President of Libya (on TV right before her) even when it turns out that would've been more accurate. <br /><br />You don't think any can disagree with gov't agencies? Even when the agencies don't agree with each other? <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-21729751122445745262013-05-12T23:14:00.033-04:002013-05-12T23:14:00.033-04:00This is as stupid as it gets. She didn't disre...This is as stupid as it gets. She didn't disregard the statements from any non-American sources. The statement was one agreed upon by the CIA with the State Department. She is supposed to disagree with them -- "taken her brief from someone who had it right" -- on the basis of what? urban legendnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-12563174273374819012013-05-12T23:07:20.655-04:002013-05-12T23:07:20.655-04:00Can you read? How about re-reading why TDH says Hi...Can you read? How about re-reading why TDH says Hicks behaved like a fool, and then tell the rest of us exactly why TDH is wrong. Hicks' behavior sure looks blatantly political to me.<br /><br />Maybe you didn't even read the explanation in the first place -- couldn't stand to be shown as a fool yourself -- so "re-reading" would be the wrong term.urban legendnoreply@blogger.com